Darth Simpson Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 it will be from Raven, or Gray Matter Bah, I hope they've learned something from their last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted January 24, 2003 Author Share Posted January 24, 2003 What ? RtCW RULED!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Simpson Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Wolfenstein rocked, yes. I was talking about Raven / JKII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treacherous Mercenary Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 I was talking about Raven / JKII. Not to mention SOFII which sucked imo compared to JKII. I guess I like the thought of running around with a light saber rather than guns which I prefer in a tactical style instead. I do hope JKIII will be a tad slower paced for the light saber fights. I do think they should limit the weapons abit to be able to carry somewhat in MP mode though to emphasized CQB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Originally posted by Com Raven and it should use a ID engine I don't think I'm familiar with that one......please explain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted January 25, 2003 Author Share Posted January 25, 2003 Sorry, I mean it should use an engine from ID Software, as about 90% of both studios are former ID employees.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Simpson Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 iD engine = All the old iD games, Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, Doom 3 all use graphics engines by iD Software. JKIII with the Doom 3 engine would be f'ing A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 But it's not, so bust on that Doom 3 idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky_Baccy Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Posted by GonkH8er But it's not, so bust on that Doom 3 idea You been talking to Mike Gummelt, Gonk? If not the Doom3 engine, then what? Unreal 2? ...You seem to be fairly knowledgeable about it all, so spill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Thanks for the help guys. Originally posted by Wacky_Baccy ...You seem to be fairly knowledgeable about it all, so spill... Gonk gets some of the inside info.......so he is in "the know" for the JK games. Nice to see you here btw Gonk. *nudgepokewacky* It's about time you showed yourself around here again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Simpson Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 As long as it's not Q3, I'll be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted January 25, 2003 Author Share Posted January 25, 2003 I'd even be content with Q3.... and seeing how ID is aligned with Activision, I am 100% sure it won't be Unreal technology... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Simpson Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Don't get me wrong, Q3 is an excellent engine, but it feels done by now. I'm getting tired of the look and feel of it. I just think someting new should be used, to spice it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treacherous Mercenary Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Originally posted by Wacky_Baccy Unreal 2? ...You seem to be fairly knowledgeable about it all, so spill... Now that engine would be good to use imo! The engine is pretty sw33t for games like AA:O and soon, Rainbow Six: Raven Shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted January 26, 2003 Author Share Posted January 26, 2003 Raven Shield, for it's own reasons, unleashes only a small percentage of what Unreal 2 can do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notion Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 They could run it on the Quake 4 engine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Could you possibly explain the differences between the 3 and the 4 engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Simpson Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Well, the Quake 4 engine is the Doom 3 engine, so according to Gonk, that's a no-no. Hard to explain the differences, except that Doom 3 looks one helluva lot better that Quake 3. Best way to see the differences would be to look at screenshots. Quake 3 is a 3-year old game, while the Doom 3 tech is brand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rive Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 Damn Raven and their linear games. When will they learn that player freedom is the way forward? JK II was fun, but it was always so linear and dull, never really did it require any skill (apart from the saber duels, which were pretty frickin tough at times, IMO), it was always follow the straight path through these doors, kill this guy, steal his key, open that door... aaaaand that's pretty much it. I prefer games where I can choose the route I'm going to take to get from A to B, and JK II just didn't offer that. On the plus side, it did have lightsabers in it.... Seriously, though, JK II had so much potential, and it just continually let me down. I really hope JK III is better. And they'd better bring back live-action cutscenes too! I was gutted when JK: MotS didn' have it, and when they neglected to put them into JK II... It needed more variety to the levels. My favourite was the stealthy infiltration one before you get aboard Desann's ship. It definitely needed bigger levels as well, higher poly, high-res textured models and maps. I assume that with it either going ahead and negotiating the rights to use the UT 2K3 engine or the Doom III engine, or even developing one of their own to rival these (which I doubt will happen considering the technological capabilities of the UT 2K3 engine...), graphically it'll be gorgeous. But that won't be enough for me, i'm afraid. But hey, imagine shooting a storm-trooper and seeing him reg-dolling down the stairs or a cliff-face or something. Now that's a much-needed addition to the SW games alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerothorn Posted January 27, 2003 Share Posted January 27, 2003 Lets see...Dark Forces makes a lot of money and is criticlly acclaimed...same with Jedi Knight....same with Jedi Outcast....I don't think its very suprising they are continueing the series. Still, nice to know. Wonder what engine they'll use? Quake 3 is too old and I doubt Doom 3 was licensed yet so it'll probably be Unreal, maybe Lithtech but probably Unreal. And I agree with Rive, the only reason to sacrifice player freedom is a more focused storyline, and JK II's story was crap. My formula for JK III Deus Ex(Or, by the time it comes out, DX2) + Lightsabers +Forcepowers + Star Wars= Good JK III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Rive Posted January 27, 2003 Share Posted January 27, 2003 Definitely have to agree with you there, Aerothorn. If the Deus Ex II engine is the UT2K3 engine modded in the same way as its predecessor, it'll be amazing. JK III needs that RPG quality that Deus Ex had, especially the character development as you played through tweaking the stats. That'd be ideal, especially with developing force powers through different tasks completed and experience levels. JK III would definitely be much more involving that way - you'd care more about the character and want to play it through more than once , even more so if they made the levels so that they could be taken on any way the player chooses. If the levels are involving enuogh, I know I'd want to play it over and over again to see what the outcome was of different tactics. Now that would definitely be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerothorn Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 Deus Ex 2 is my most wanted game. Me want it baddddddddd.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted February 2, 2003 Share Posted February 2, 2003 I would also like to see a bit more role playing in JK3.....of course there are those who despise it, but that's ok with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swat Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 they will learn wat it's like in kotor n come 2 like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notion Posted February 3, 2003 Share Posted February 3, 2003 I'm sure they will apreciate KOTOR but in no way will it influence how they design the game. KOTOR is a full blown RPG, complete with all the cliches. I do agree that if they turned Deus Ex: Invisible War into a star wars game, and gave it awesome lightsaber battles (like the last one did) it would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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