DirtyWombat Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by Mujahid Cautioning people that they are pursuing a singularly difficult goal is one thing. Flaming them for having the audacity to suggest they might succeed is another thing entirely. I concur... If we fail to exhihibit the compasion that this forum has become know for, regardless of how many times we may have seen the topic, we are merely emulating the constraints for which other forums have have been rebuked... Wombat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 We are not flaming people, who want to be a Jedi. We are basically telling them it isn't as easy as they think it is. As some people think it's as easy as shooting a few people, and woop comes Jedi status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyWombat Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by -=ReApEr=- As some people think it's as easy as shooting a few people, and woop comes Jedi status. I stand corrected Reaper... It's not flaming people... Is Sarcastic Bludgeoning better...??? Wombat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by DirtyWombat I stand corrected Reaper... It's not flaming people... Is Sarcastic Bludgeoning better...??? Wombat Indeed, we are just waking them up to reaility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 hence the importance of smilies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Noone here has flamed anyone yet. Anyone does will be warned, or (temp-)banned depending what was said, accordingly. This is a flame: "Are you a morron, or what? You can't be a Jedi. Ever! God, even my mom knows that! You suck!" To harshly rebutt someone in a disparagingly manner, I will come down on that person like a ton of bricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyWombat Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by Jan Gaarni This is a flame: "Are you a morron, or what? You can't be a Jedi. Ever! God, even my mom knows that! You suck!" lol... And an excellent example at that... Wombat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mujahid Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Originally posted by Jan Gaarni Noone here has flamed anyone yet. Anyone does will be warned, or (temp-)banned depending what was said, accordingly. This is a flame: "Are you a morron, or what? You can't be a Jedi. Ever! God, even my mom knows that! You suck!" To harshly rebutt someone in a disparagingly manner, I will come down on that person like a ton of bricks. Yep, you're right about that, Jan. I think what I was thinking about when I wrote my post was the general sentiment that surrounds most of the Jedi posts. I haven't seen many people be indifferent They either seem to be gung-ho pro-jedi-wannabe, or *borderline* flaming people for even suggesting it, hehe. Being a newbie in these parts, I didn't realize there was such a history of Jedi posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 i would like to advice you all to read the sticky post almost up at every forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damarius Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 According toJedi Classes the class we choose as profession has no impact on whether we can open the Jedi slot. Also alot of people assume to open it involved quest or acting like a jedi. However does anyone know if they have mentioned if the faction you align with will have any impact on whether you can open the Jedi slot or not? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 I am of the impression that nothing and everything will have an impact. Meaning, noone will know how to become Force Sensitive. Only those who have become Force-Sensitive will know how they became possibly, but they won't have a clue how others can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xx_Patman_xX Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 I agree with Jan, the devs had to make the process of getting a FSCS different for everyone. If it wasn't like that, there would be guides and walkthroughs everywhere on how to become a jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 Originally posted by Xx_Patman_xX I agree with Jan, the devs had to make the process of getting a FSCS different for everyone. If it wasn't like that, there would be guides and walkthroughs everywhere on how to become a jedi. They are basically trying to keep the sentimental vaule, of the Jedi knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damarius Posted May 26, 2003 Share Posted May 26, 2003 So if I join a faction it wouldnt impact on whether the slot would open. THe reason I thought faction would is because it involved pvp and the Jedi were the keepers of peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 Originally posted by Xx_Patman_xX I agree with Jan, the devs had to make the process of getting a FSCS different for everyone. If it wasn't like that, there would be guides and walkthroughs everywhere on how to become a jedi. Yes, in a perfect world, it would be like this. But no, it's simply not possible to script 400 000 different ways to become a jedi, just as well as it's not possible to script 100 ways. The road to a FS slot might be a tad different from person to person, and the factors that eventually got you the slot might be uncertain for a while, but sooner or later people will compare the ways they got FSS, and they'll find out. And you'll see it in FAQs. It will take a while, but it will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dathan Surehand Posted May 27, 2003 Share Posted May 27, 2003 I just wanted to note another thread on "the way to Jedi-hood" has certainly got peoples attention. As irritating as it can be it is STILL interesting...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mujahid Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Originally posted by setsuko Yes, in a perfect world, it would be like this. But no, it's simply not possible to script 400 000 different ways to become a jedi, just as well as it's not possible to script 100 ways. The road to a FS slot might be a tad different from person to person, and the factors that eventually got you the slot might be uncertain for a while, but sooner or later people will compare the ways they got FSS, and they'll find out. And you'll see it in FAQs. It will take a while, but it will be there. I couldn't agree more, Set. I don't know how many of you have experience with Asheron's Call (the first, not the second). For those of you who do not know anything about that game, I'll talk a little bit about the magic system. The Magic system in AC1, at the more advanced stages, required a series of "tapers" to be used as the formula for the more advanced spells. I don't recall exactly how many tapers there were, but there were at least 6 or so that you'd need to get in proper order in order to successfully "learn" the advanced spell. There were, quite literally, hundreds of thousands of different possible combinations of tapers (6 or more slots, with each slot taking 1 of 6 or so different tapers....again, not sure on exact numbers). The developers based the series of tapers for each advanced spell off of your CD-key. It took a long time. And for quite some time, most people had no idea how to make the advanced spells. But the formula was eventually broken. Not only was it broken, but a 3rd party program was written to help players determine the proper order of their tapers! All YOU had to do, as a player, was figure out what the first taper was on one of your advanced spells, the Taper program figured out the rest (for the uninitiated, figuring out the 1st taper was not difficult at all). Now you are catching a glimpse of the REAL reason why the devs are going with the current character number scheme (Single Character Servers + one FS slot). Storage, in this day and age, is cheap. The reason for SCS/SFS is because eventually, EVERYONE will know how to open up their FS slot. The only way they can viably control the Jedi population at that moment in time, is to severely limit 1) the number of character slots available (which will make people SERIOUSLY think twice about messing around with an alt), or 2) the gameplay factor (i.e., make the Jedi profession appeal to only a VERY limited subset of the playerbase based upon gameplay issues that the devs know only very few people actually enjoy). Set has the truth of it: Eventually EVERYONE will know how to open up the FS slot just like EVERYONE used the Taper program to figure out their spell component requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Oooh, good post, good post. Setsuko likey. Yes, I mean, come on! If there's one thing computer geeks are good at, it's math. Collecting data, analyze, and then learn from it. And will geeks play SWG? Is the pope a catholic? Simply put, someone will quickly find out. And since there is a lot of interest in the FCS, the knowledge will spread like wildfire. That's why the permadeath thingy is the only thing that could (and can) save the situation: even if there'll be hundreds (or even thousands) players using a FCS on your server, only a few will succeed to actually become jedi. So jedi hopefully won't become a source of irritation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Yes, I mean, come on! If there's one thing computer geeks are good at, it's math. I don't fully agree on this, cause it's very hard to figure something out when we don't even know what the prerequesite could be. It could well be that you need to learn a certian skill or more from different professions or the same. Perhaps the way to unlock your FS slot is to be a master bounty hunter. Or maybe you need to go somewhere to get it aswell as a special skill, or profession. My point is, there are tons of different things you can create prerequesites from. All it (FS-slot pre-req feature) needs to do is pick something. And the combination can never be used again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mujahid Posted May 28, 2003 Share Posted May 28, 2003 Originally posted by Jan Gaarni I don't fully agree on this, cause it's very hard to figure something out when we don't even know what the prerequesite could be. It could well be that you need to learn a certian skill or more from different professions or the same. Perhaps the way to unlock your FS slot is to be a master bounty hunter. Or maybe you need to go somewhere to get it aswell as a special skill, or profession. My point is, there are tons of different things you can create prerequesites from. All it (FS-slot pre-req feature) needs to do is pick something. And the combination can never be used again. What you have to understand, however, is that you can't reasonably code an infinite amount of possibilities. You can't even reasonably code 500000 possibilities. Eventually, SOMEONE will open up their FS slot. At that point, they'll stop and think about what they just did. Shortly thereafter, a 2nd person will open theirs. Then a 3rd. Then a 4th. These people will eventually compare notes, and voila! The formula emerges. It's just a matter of time. The only thing that changes with complexity is time. But, in the final analysis, it all comes down to time. Might take a month. Might take 6. Might take a year. Eventually we will all know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Xizor Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 i bet there's some dude in the game that makes you FS once you talk to him & open ups your force sensitivity slot. maybe some old guy on the outer rim or something, & he only shows up occasionally. & in different places, but if you get to meet him, he'll do it for you. just a guess .. they say i'm quite strong w/ the force so.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xx_Patman_xX Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 Is it just me or does Xizor's font look different? Looks like he is posting his informaton in the subject box. Sorry to change the topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Xizor Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 it's you. lol just playing. this is my favorite font called Tahoma. it's the best font. anybody going to comment on my prediction of FS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xx_Patman_xX Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 heh, didnt realize you could change font. Anyways back to the jedis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Xizor Posted May 29, 2003 Share Posted May 29, 2003 you're such a free poster lmfao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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