Cadam11 Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 Does anyone have an idea of when they will lift the NDA, I saw somewhere they said it would happen pretty soon and said probably after they showcased it at E3. Also How many beta testers are there right now? They said they would up the number of beta testers to around 50,000 after the NDA was lifted. So just wondering. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 Most guesses are "sometimes in May". Nothing more specific than that, and it's still guesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenJediGrinch Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 Unless someone with red letters in their name, at the official forums has said something about the lifting of the NDA, or the release date....DO NOT BELIEVE THEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zaius Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Whats the point in having an NDA, if another company copies them, why doesnt SOE jus sue them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.K Luke Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Whats the point in having an NDA, if another company copies them, why doesnt SOE jus sue them. Well, it's to prevent copyright infringement, and suing another company can get much more complicated and would somehow or rather hamper with the game development process too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiffler Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 A lot of the reason behind the NDA is the fact that the game is not finished yet, so if people go online and rant about all the problems with it then some people may take that meaning the game will suck when it comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.K Luke Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 A lot of the reason behind the NDA is the fact that the game is not finished yet, so if people go online and rant about all the problems with it then some people may take that meaning the game will suck when it comes out. It's true, however, there're other ways for beta testers to say how sucky a game is by saying how buggy,unstable,dull without violating the NDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffleman Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 You are right JK luke, it would be very simple to say that the game is simply buggy and will be fine by release. however, some people dont have the ability to speek English in a fashion that will please SOE. Many people will try to convince others that this game sucks if they are having a problem with a few minor bugs. Keep in mind the just because these people got into beta they have a clue about NDA, debugging, or reporting problems, heck, I doubt half the people read the NDA rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Originally posted by J.K Luke It's true, however, there're other ways for beta testers to say how sucky a game is by saying how buggy,unstable,dull without violating the NDA. But if it in anything within the game which it is, they can be breaking the NDA in a certain sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waffleman Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 I thought the NDA was to protect content. In that sense you could talk about status, I mean, SOE isnt going to tell beta testers when the game is officially going to be released or when NDA is up. So ismply say the status of the game is buggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnfrozenCaveman Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 NDA is there for several reasons. 1) So companies won't rip ideas off until the game is in production already. 2) Just think of the game as an invention. If the invention isn't finished and people see it that way, then they'll judge it before it's finished and that could be the end of the invention. 3) Hearing people under 18yrs old complain that they can't be in beta* 4) So people can discuss things about the game that are not finalized. *Well at least the first few stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zaius Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 hahaha nice Caveman, I think that is the best list of reasons that there is an NDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Originally posted by UnfrozenCaveman NDA is there for several reasons. 1) So companies won't rip ideas off until the game is in production already. 2) Just think of the game as an invention. If the invention isn't finished and people see it that way, then they'll judge it before it's finished and that could be the end of the invention. 3) Hearing people under 18yrs old complain that they can't be in beta* 4) So people can discuss things about the game that are not finalized. *Well at least the first few stages. I couldn't of said it any better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.K Luke Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 1) So companies won't rip ideas off until the game is in production already ahh yes caveman, you hit the nail. I believe that the first main reason why there's an NDA is to block competitors from stealing ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Originally posted by J.K Luke ahh yes caveman, you hit the nail. I believe that the first main reason why there's an NDA is to block competitors from stealing ideas But still, beta testers probally would give competitors previews. Just to annoy sony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Moon Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 I just hope the NDA is lifted soon, then players can start compiling lists of different armors and weapons. I want to know what kind of smithing materials I might be able to work towards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 I doubt any tester would go through the pains of listing them..... and no, a Beta tester would not sell info just to annoy Sony, because if that tester got caught.... that tester would be in big bantha poodoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.K Luke Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 ReApEr: But still, beta testers probally would give competitors previews. Just to annoy sony. StarWarsPhreak: and no, a Beta tester would not sell info just to annoy Sony, because if that tester got caught.... that tester would be in big bantha poodoo There you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Originally posted by J.K Luke ReApEr: But still, beta testers probally would give competitors previews. Just to annoy sony. StarWarsPhreak: and no, a Beta tester would not sell info just to annoy Sony, because if that tester got caught.... that tester would be in big bantha poodoo There you go Mmm, i can read. I do not need someone to quote the answer to my question for me. But what the hell, your hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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