Devlyyn Sarr Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Forgive me if this has been discussed before but I'm a little worried as to how the entire economy will work in SWG. From what I've read, the crafting system will be perhaps the most advanced yet developed for a game of this type. To me, making blasters, droids, armor, mining, being an architect, and eventually even building ships sounds really awesome but I'm wondering if it could be too appealing? Not that I think that everyone playing SWG would be in the merchant class but if you have a sufficient number then the supply is going to be huge while the demand will be that much smaller. Normally I wouldnt think thats a big problem but i'm wondering how the market system will work. Will there be constant shouts in the big cities from people trying to sell their wares or will everthing be done through a faceless computerized system? Are the days of p2p trade windows obsolete? LOL hopefully i'm just being paranoid...all these econ classes are getting to me What do you guys (and gals ) think? btw this could also apply to other professions as well. I would hate to live in a Star Wars univerise populated soley by Storm Troopers, Bounty Hunters, Smugglers and Jedi wannabe's ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Aklin Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 I have a feeling that supply and demand will go into effect. Some people just won't cut it, while others will have their equipment heavily sought after. Remember, there are plenty of other things to experiment with in SWG. You may find that being a Scout was what your true calling was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexxxy_mark Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 best example of supply and demand in the gaming community: Diablo 2. well S&D at a VERY accelorated rate anyhow... duplications...price lowering... lack of dupes...price raising... not to mention eBay...heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Originally posted by sexxxy_mark best example of supply and demand in the gaming community: Diablo 2. well S&D at a VERY accelorated rate anyhow... duplications...price lowering... lack of dupes...price raising... not to mention eBay...heh Ebay, lol. Do they sell items in games on ebay?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 E-Bay auctions was actually one of the things that dragged EQ down. Oh well, back to subject: Yes, there will be many ways to sell items. You can put up a store, you can even hire a droid to mend the store. You can put the items up for sale on terminals (think of it as an ingame E-Bay), or you can sell the items in person. Hopefully, these ways will compliment themselves. As for the 'will all players be artisans', I don't know. Come to think of it, you'll have to put a large percentage of your skills into crafting if you are to be one of the best artisans; you can't be the best artisan around while being one of the best fighters around. And yes, there'll be a lot of people wanting to be the best fighters around. Since we have item decay, us fighters will always have a need to update our equipment, so there will hopefully always be a deal around the corner for you artisans. But I agree with you, the artisan potential in this game is great! And mind you, that is good for us non-artisans too, since shopping will be so much funnier when there's a gazillion of items out there, and when it's up to the artisan whether they'll be designed to look good or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.K Luke Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 good call set. Ok, talking about item crafting, will the artisans be able to select the graphics models for their crafted items or possibly create models for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzrk Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 I believe you can't create models for your items, but we can select our to be crafted items. We also can modify them. This depends on what products you use to craft this item. For example: a by your handmade and modified E-11 can be totaly different than my, because of the different parts we can use to build and upgrade one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deggesim Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Originally posted by setsuko ... Since we have item decay, us fighters will always have a need to update our equipment, so there will hopefully always be a deal around the corner for you artisans. ... This is also my opinion. I still don't know who I will be in the game, a fighter or an artisan, but I think that I could enjoy both in the same way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Originally posted by J.K Luke good call set. Ok, talking about item crafting, will the artisans be able to select the graphics models for their crafted items or possibly create models for it? You will be able to choose colours. The graphic model of the component is altered in some way by what raw material you use. And the final item is altered by what components you you. So there's a lot of experimenting into making as sweet an item as possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexxxy_mark Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Originally posted by setsuko You will be able to choose colours. The graphic model of the component is altered in some way by what raw material you use. And the final item is altered by what components you you. So there's a lot of experimenting into making as sweet an item as possible... ooo many variations possible then... btw, is a you you the same as a yoo hoo? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devlyyn Sarr Posted May 19, 2003 Author Share Posted May 19, 2003 Is SWG the first MMORPG to allow players to move skill points around without penalties? Another economic concept is the idea of free entry and exit. What I mean by this is that because no game is truly perfectly balanced, could the ease of the skill point system be more harmful than good? When I played DAoC I became a Tailor--not be choice exactly, but because I chose this profession early on and couldnt really switch. Anyway, I made the best of it and kept on...tailoring;) . My point is that there were times where I would have switched to become a weaponsmith or something cooler if I could, but it would mean having wasted all that time as a tailor. With the introduction of these free skill points, IMHO, it could create some real balance issues. All I keep thinking of is tons of websites for the "uber" bounty hunter and the "133t" smuggler. And with the ability to move skill points it would be even easier to follow these templates. Hey, maybe then someone could start a clone war ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsuko Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Originally posted by Devlyyn Sarr Is SWG the first MMORPG to allow players to move skill points around without penalties? No. When you have reached your maximum skill points, you will have to sacrifice skills for you to be able to learn new skills. It still takes time. You'll still have to earn it like everyone else. So no, no juggling around with your skill tree. Rather, it allows you to correct past mistakes, or even change your professions entirely, if you get bored. But it is a slow process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devlyyn Sarr Posted May 19, 2003 Author Share Posted May 19, 2003 ohhhh, that makes alot more sense! Thanks Set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krymelord Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 There are a lot of game mechanics inserted into the game to help keep the player economy up and running. But remember, it is still a Player Run economy. It will fluctuate like a real economy. Merchants will try to drive prices up, and consumers will have to shop for the best deals. But inevitably competition and "advertising" will keep the market fairly stable. It will be rougher at the start, but that is also what makes it fun. The beauty of a player run system is that although it can have its flaws (saturated markets, supply/demand imbalance, and stagnation) the community as a whole can also decide what is valuable and necessary. And over time it will have the ability for specialized markets, corporations and product availability that is unmatched by a non-fluid economic system. Overall it is a risk that the DEVs are taking with this system, but they also know that a system like this will eventually thrive and probably be the staple for most MMO's of the future. We will just have to ride out a small storm before it takes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Ebay, lol. Do they sell items in games on ebay?? Reaper, you'd be amazed what people sell over eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=ReApEr=- Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Originally posted by Jan Gaarni Reaper, you'd be amazed what people sell over eBay. Wow, i might find a cheap pc. *runs over to ebaY* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaestro Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Originally posted by -=ReApEr=- Wow, i might find a cheap pc. *runs over to ebaY* If you know anyone who is A+ certified you can build a cheap computer...I just built an awesome 2.4 rig at only 500 dollars. Try checking out http://www.pricewatch.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devlyyn Sarr Posted May 19, 2003 Author Share Posted May 19, 2003 Definitely go with pricewatch. Or check out http://www.newegg.com. They have been highly rated everywhere i've seen and generally have the lowest prices as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Spaso Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Oh god........you should see all the D2 stuff on ebay it is rediculous..........i am thinking about selling my d2 account over ebay...and anohter thing. I have 2 words for solving any Galatic Economic Crisis..... PRICE FIXING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zaius Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 newegg definately is a good place to buy pc parts from. They have great rates. You should totally pimp out your computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Vessen Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Well all I can say is wait until the NDA is lifted. Also I wonder what variety of colour we will have for lasers, I would have a blue or purple because its different from red and green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jawa Eater Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 I have faith in the developor in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Vessen Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 I kind of have the same faith. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Badass Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 I want tie-dye blasters!!! That would be nice. And a little disclaimer on the side of them promoting peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Aklin Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Don't forget to have faith in the Beta testers as well. If there is an issue with any of this, I can almost certainly guarantee you that a Beta tester will bring it to the attention of the developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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