only1kenobi Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I downloaded the media pack for the JA and noticed that the Kyle model looks identical to the Jk2 one... now I'm hoping that the other models are higher quality and at least a little different from the JK2 ones. Luke looks different, and that's good. Well regardless of whether different models are used or not, I'll still play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff38 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I would expect some of the same charachters but hopefully improved a bit. I hear Kyle is the same but Luke looks different. I would really like to see Tavion again. She could switch over and go to the Academy and train to be a good jedi. But she really needs a skimpier outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 What?? That amazon thing in JO was so lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 And as for Kyle, his model is perfectly fine, but the outfit should change. He's been wearing that since the first JK game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Originally posted by Emon And as for Kyle, his model is perfectly fine, but the outfit should change. He's been wearing that since the first JK game... Or at least have a laundry room easter egg like in Elite Force II ... but this time you find Kyle washing his outfit, wearing a robe and bunny slippers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I tend to think that just about all of the models will be enhanced in some way, but returning characters will likely be pretty similar - especially since it happens pretty much right after JO. I would like to see a larger number of models used. Stormies are easy- one model. But more Rodian variation and Ree-Yee, and certainly more humans. I'd rather have more un-enhanced models than fewer enhanced models. ... and more NPC's ... (I know that has nothing to do with this, but I still want more!) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I don't see a major problem if they use an existing model as a basis and improve it. But I have to agree about Kyle. I mean, even if clothing is designed to last for a very long time in the Star Wars universe, the guy needs a change of wardrobe. The same could be said for Luke. Why is he still in that black outfit? Give him the clothes he had in ANH for a bit of variety. And I agree with Mike about NPCs. I want to see lots of NPCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I don't mind some of the models being reused. If gameplay is improved, then I will be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taekwondo joe Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 i want to see more jeid, not just the borring jedi jedi2 jedif jeditrainer, i want some alian ones, diferent ones, since you can be diferent in so many ways, make alot of jedi the same, diferent!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Originally posted by taekwondo joe i want to see more jeid, not just the borring jedi jedi2 jedif jeditrainer, i want some alian ones, diferent ones, since you can be diferent in so many ways, make alot of jedi the same, diferent!! I totally agree. I want to see other alien Jedi students/teachers at the Academy. And it would be good to see alien Jedi enemies too. Mix it up. They don't all have to be instantly recognisable as 'bad guys' or 'good guys'. Add greater variety. When someone starts firing at you...you know who to kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Well Luke's black of more of a uniform, it's a style of Jedi garb. Similar the the same old Jedi robes almost all the Jedi ware, it's their proper attire. But Kyle and Jan don't have that kind of uniform... they need to change more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
only1kenobi Posted July 24, 2003 Author Share Posted July 24, 2003 I understand that JA only takes place like a year after JO, but sheesh like most of you said, Kyle and Luke should at least wear something different. I can just imagine Luke having a wardrobe full of similar looking black uniforms, and Kyle's wardrobe packed with bantha herder clothes, all identical... It's minor but it would add more to the "new game" feel if the characters at least wore different clothes as opposed to the "more of the same as JO" feel that some guys seem to be experiencing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Originally posted by StormHammer I totally agree. I want to see other alien Jedi students/teachers at the Academy. And it would be good to see alien Jedi enemies too. Mix it up. They don't all have to be instantly recognisable as 'bad guys' or 'good guys'. Add greater variety. When someone starts firing at you...you know who to kill. I would be disappointed if they didn't put all of the new skeletal systems and models into use for different species of Jedi and enemies. The enemy saber weilders, though, it depends on what this 'cult' is - in JO it made sense for them to be human because of the story. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eklin Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 They don't all have to be instantly recognisable as 'bad guys' or 'good guys'. Add greater variety. When someone starts firing at you...you know who to kill. Yeh, it'd be cool if you were walking through a crowd of people, when suddenly a guy unexpectedly turns around and draws a blaster or lightsaber. Neutral NPCs are what this game REALLY needs. Like in Bounty Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Well i think i pretty much agree with everyone here, Neutral NPCs are really needed as much as alien jedi etc. I mean we're not all human are we! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XanaJedi Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 Kyle and Luke got the same wardrobe style as Donald Duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reprehence Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I was playing a couple of created SP maps - NS again and coruscant underground (or something like that) - anyway they had several of those little short guys from bespin running around - basically as neutral NPC's, right. So - if you got in a fight near them - even if you didn't touch them - they had this tendency later to grab a dropped weapon and open fire. And they were still gray and not red in your reticule! I ended up just cutting them up because I didn't want to suffer another sneak attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan X Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 To me, this game is looking a lot like JO aside from new people,new levels, force powers, and weaponry. I mean the least they could do was make a variety of enemies and characters, and update models instead of rehashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 The lighting has been improved vastly, and it look as if they doubled texture resolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reprehence Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 To me, this game is looking a lot like JO aside from new people,new levels, force powers, and weaponry. I mean the least they could do was make a variety of enemies and characters, and update models instead of rehashing. Ok - so everything is new - but you want a variety of enemies and characters. I somehow doubt that any but the most popular characters will make an appearance - i.e. if these characters were completely left out there would be complaining. The player characters are completely new models....from screen shots enemies look completely different - no hooded reborn. There are animals to fight including a rancor. I hope there will be a greater variety of alien badies this time around - though of course there were quite a few in JO. We've already heard that models will be enhanced a bit from the previous game - even though they'll be wearing the same clothes - which has already been discussed. I don't get what the complaint is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taekwondo joe Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 what happned to my sig????????? any way i just want civilions and alian jedi, thats all, thats not tooooooooo much to ask for now is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan X Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 Maybe that didn't come across the way I wanted it to From what I've SEEN, I have seen some of the exact same enemies from JO, I've seen the exact same weapons aside from two new ones ( Tell me if im wrong), some multiplayer force powers that were made usable in single player. New game modes, etc. This may seem to be a lot, but to me it screams expansion. I know a lot of things were done to make the game look better, and to add more flavor. I don't know, I just feel as if this game is coming off as completely new. But to me it seems like an expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HertogJan Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 With the apparent release date (Sept. 16th) coming closer, I tend to agree with you... I fear JA will be very much the same like JO I mean, I haven't seen anything really new in the screens and movies, even the sabers look the same; the same bugs etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txa1265 Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Originally posted by Emon Yeah, all of the bugs are real easy to see in still screenshots. Yes, they are - SEVERE framerate problems ... they better tune that system before release. I've been staring at the same screen since E3 and the thing hasn't moved yet, what's that <0.5 FPM (frames per month)? The MotS of JO? - JA is supposed to be longer than JO, MotS was ~67% as long as JK. - More & changed weapons, new & changed force powers - same. - Kyle as protagonist, Mara as new character in MotS. In JA you choose and build your character. - Force Power selection by stars same in MotS as JK, with removal of alignment. JA completely changes this, putting alignment back into the mix. Honestly, I see the relationship of JO and JA more like Elite Force I and II than JK & MotS. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediLurker Posted July 28, 2003 Share Posted July 28, 2003 Really, when you think about it, so what if JA is JO beefed up? JO had its fair share of problems, but it was a good game despite them. I don't think anyone here will argue that. What's wrong with a heavily modified JO with developer attention focused on the areas that 'went wrong'? Lots of games do that for their sequels. UT, almost all sports games, etc. I think people had too high expectations of the game, but that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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