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They've developed their platform 14 years ago, back when we really had no clue what power a disgruntled (non-)customer really has, and how destructive to social media the mere downvote is. That was the good old time when games were mostly sold in boxes from brick and mortar stores, when 'freespeechy' wasn't an insult, and Leigh Alexander had not yet spoken the immortal words about creating or curating a culture in your spaces. GOG has recently removed downvotes from their forums, so they've finally seen the error of their ways, but I don't think that right now they even have the budget to rectify the review situation. They have a whole system set up with a verified owners rating, an all reviews rating, and a "combined score" that means jack shit because a few positive owners' ratings can not counteract a tide of review bombers who don't own the game. You remove a nail, the whole system collapses. From my perspective, Valve also has a history of looking the other way for the very same reasons GOG/CDPR did: They always tried to look like an advocate for the customer against the industry bigguns. Although that was always an obvious and a bit pathetic marketing ploy, it has worked out marvellously for Valve, what with the Lord Gaben and ambrosia from heaven sales memes. Glorification and even deification by the customer for a power hungry monopoly, I don't really see many other companies that achieved that besides maybe Apple back in Jobs times. I don't blame CDPR for trying to step in exactly those footsteps, obviously, but they never had the fanbase, the budget nor the developers to make it work. They should have reacted wayyyyy sooner to the rise of the shitstorm, but I think their options were always limited. They couldn't risk upsetting their customers. Valve eventually bowed to their business clients with sensible and solid safeguards against review bombing. I kind of dread the unavoidable shitstorm when GOG finally introduces those very elementary and extremely necessary culture war blow softeners. Valve eventually introduced those safeguards, GOG stuck to allowing everything because they couldn't risk upsetting their customers. But to be fair, Valve can dictate the market entirely on its own and won't have to ask their gazillion business clients when they introduce e.g. no questions asked refund policies, "bigger cut for higher sales" exclusivity fostering/competition squashing mechanisms, or continues sales to Russia. CDPR/GOG never had any of those options.

@Thrik @NoirReservoir I admire your spunk. But you're wrong. 😆 Don't hold it against Jojo. He was eating a whole lot of bananas recently.

That was a time when 4.3 million copies sold was perceived as a moderate success or even a disappointment by Nintendo. Ah well. Let's hope Return to Monkey Island sells 4.3 million copies. 🤑 Mostly, it was about coarse ground shit. Some self declared investigators found a handful of lines cut from Season one to be "censorship", then went on and wrote that lines were cut from Season 2 as well even though that wasn't the case. I wrote to GOG, but before they even replied they had all the respective reviews deleted already. At the time, the most upvoted review claims that Season 2 is "still censored", because of Bosco's voice. Which is a claim they can make, because it's true, but a one star rating because of that is of course still coarse ground shit by a pathetic loonie who didn't buy the game. If GOG finally deleted all reviews that aren't written by game owners, they'd have 80% more positive reviews, and that is that.

She must have collected them from somewhere at least. It might not be far fetched to think of the monkey cast as an ensemble. Elaine could have collected Smirk's Monkey and the one she found hanging around the great monkey head. And those blue eyes ... maybe we should wait for official word (it's pretty obviously the same monkey in the Special Edition, but by my own rules, the SEs don't count 😬). On that note, @Jake can surely rectify our ailing ToMI monkey count?

I think we have probable cause to knock the TSoMI count back to 5.

OBJECTION! LeChuck means "dozens of islands", not dozens of monkeys. The monkeys on deck are identical in appearance, so they could be the same monkeys. Out of goodwill, we will assume that Telltale is showing all of the total THIRTEEN monkeys of Montevideo at least once. Plus Jaques makes 14. Objections to that?

We count every live monkey head that's shown in the respective game. If you can't see it, it doesn't count. I think Tales still has a decent shot at the throne, but that's a long, five part game. There's one monkey being mishandled by LeChuck in the opening scene and one that Guybrush uses to escape the Marquis (I think that's not the same monkey). But I also remember a scene later in the game when LeChuck and Elaine bring back those Monkeys of Montevideo, and they're showing some more monkeys there, I think. Anybody with a screenshot or youtube link?

In Guybrush's immortal words: Mmmmmmmmmno. But hot damn you guys are good! So we're up to seven in TSoMI now?! I thought it was four! Come on, you can find me some more Monkeys in LeChuck's Revenge. I love how nobody votes for Escape because of the mass monkey scene. 🙈

If it has one or more live heads and the live head is shown in the game, it counts. If it just squeaks and you see other body parts, I'd say no deal.

Yup, absolutely. Season 2 still maintains a whopping 5/5 stars verified owners' rating, so if GOG just got off their fucking asses and banned non owner reviews ... LE SIGH.

See poll question. * ** *** **** * counted per capita / monkey head shown in the game. ** Live monkeys only. Statues and giant monkey heads do not count. *** Original releases only. Special Editions do not count. **** unfair hint for ze Germanz, vee are counting der ECHTE Affen (monkeys) only, not der MENSCHENaffen (apes). So no counting der LeChimp, oh von der kay? Zehr gut.

Desperately waiting for a PC release. I really hope they're announcing one soon. It's GOG or bust. 🏴‍☠️

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/lurking_mode_off Ah! Another refugee from the ag forums. Welcome! 🥰 /lurking_mode_on

Still nothing on the gog front. I'm out for now.

I'm so estranged from this whole present game culture, it's not even funny anymore. 😔

I hate countdown timers.

If they don't release the most gorgeous bound edition for the 50th anniversary next year, I'll have to put Iocaine powder in a few wine glasses.

Oh I see, we're doing the seafaring variation of the insult swordfighting technique here.

That's exactly it, though that "list" was usually short.

Unceremoniously and not as a goodbye present, though it might still serve as that. It's Time, Guybrush acrylic on paper

Don't be so careful with the predictions. If you're wrong, you're wrong. After some technical difficulties, the gamescom stream starts 23 min. later than scheduled (8:23 PM for us Germans) Return to Monkey Island is coming up in the late fourth of the presentation, let's say 9:52 PM The new trailer contains mostly old scenes intercut with the Monkey Island Monday stuff New reveals concern Herman Toothrot, a bit of Monkey Island, more of the new UI is shown Ron Gilbert, but not Dave Grossman will be on the stage for a few seconds to shake hands with Geoff K. The trailer is a release date trailer Physical release for Switch will be confirmed No new platforms will be announced (but GOG is getting the catalog entry tomorrow or I'll kill someone over at Disney) No additional voiceover languages will be announced The release date is September 22nd And, yes, my predictions are ALWAYS RIGHT.

That means we're getting TWO MONKEY ISLANDS IN THE SAME YEAR!! 😂

It was the only instance where we got a "clean" traditional verb plus noun. I guess that the left click now works in the same way right click worked in the old LucasArts games, it chooses the most obvious action. That's "talk to" in the case of people and "look at" in the case of objects like the scumm bar sign. Looking at that image ... I get the impression ... Guybrush is going to try and hire on LeChuck's ship. 😆