lukeskywalker1 Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Sorry for bringing up an old thread, but someone said CPU speed is what makes OPEN GL run better or something.... well, its probably my RAM thats causing the slow down (i think the CPU is the only reason i can run outcast/acadmey) I have PIII 1.2 GHZ Intel onboard card, 128 RAM WIN XP.... i get maybe 30 FPS if im lucky, well.... i have gotten over 100 sometimes (which is awesome for my system!) but anyways, why is it slow? Its the RAM right? I know the card doesnt help, but if i got more ram, do you think i could gain maybe 10-20 more FPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialForces Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 OMG MY COMP OWNS ALL OF YOURS!!!!!! 600 mhz (HOLY **** THATS FAST) intel 1 graphics card (THE BEST) 256 mb ram (UP TO DATE) oh yea i get an amazing 0 to 10 fps on jk2!!!!!!!! OMG THAT IS SO GOOOOOOOOD................ my life sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzerian Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 (everything max in OpenGL driver settings) thats the reason for high fps its not actually using ur video card its using software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJP3E Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 how you people get that high a FPS is beyond me ??? I have a 128 Geforce FX 5200 and get maybe 50-60 FPS in JO most of the time and average 20 or so in JA with low settings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Originally posted by BJP3E how you people get that high a FPS is beyond me ??? I have a 128 Geforce FX 5200 and get maybe 50-60 FPS in JO most of the time and average 20 or so in JA with low settings What are your system specs, since CPU and RAM do play into performance, also, have you tried turning off such things like Force Feedback, Volumetric Shadows, Dynamic Glow, and running the most recent video drivers(52.16 for NVidia users). I am running: AMD 1900XP 768MB PC2700 DDR RAM GeForce FX 5900 128MB Seagate Barracude 7200 RPM Sound Blaster Live! X-Gamer( Dual Surround Sound Systems) And I get about 120-200FPS on average running @ 1024x768x32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJP3E Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 WinXP P4 2.20 Ghz w/400 Mhz FSB 512 DDR SDRAM 16MB Integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics (Upgraded to the 128MB Geforce FX 5200) Integrated Audio 48x CDROM 40 Gig HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterSidious Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Originally posted by BJP3E WinXP P4 2.20 Ghz w/400 Mhz FSB 512 DDR SDRAM 16MB Integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics (Upgraded to the 128MB Geforce FX 5200) Integrated Audio 48x CDROM 40 Gig HD Humm, maybe the system just isn't designed for that good of a graphics card look at the post time hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babywax Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 I'm running: AMD Athlon 1400 mhz 1GB DDR PC2100 ram ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb (YAY!) SB Audigy 1 A-Bit KG7 Motherboard 40 GB Maxtor 7200 RPM HD How much would a processor help me? I get from 40 to 100 fps in game, running on max settings, with no AA/AF at 1600x1200x32. Although AF seems to have no effect on my FPS, and if I turn AA on at 2x I get a small hit but not too large. I was thinking about upgraded to an AMD Athlon XP 2500 barton? Oh, one more thing, anyone know the FSB on a KG7 mobo? EDIT: Also, how do you turn off volumetric shadows and force feedback etc? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Originally posted by babywax Also, how do you turn off volumetric shadows and force feedback etc? Thanks! Go to, "setup" and into "more video" and turn it to "simple" or "none". For force feedback, i think its somewhere in the 'setup" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babywax Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 What about in multiplayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJP3E Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 my system came from DELL its a Dimension 2400 got it for $599 I didn't feel like shelling out 2grand for the true gaming system but as long as it works anyway I'm happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00ki3 Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Our eyes have a refresh rate of 1/73 per second. In effect to state it crudely, our eyes have 73 'fps'. This does mean that we cant experience the 'true beauty' of anything over 73 fps, however, high fps's are not for beauty. Its for quicker response when playing mp. (btw if you just want the game for beatuy, up your settings so your fps remains around 73. A higher fps wont make a difference, but turning graphical features such as anti-aliasing on will). In JK2, high fps's were needed for things needing accurate timing. Such things included kicks and red stance. JA however, has no need for timed kicks (not even with staff) and well red stance is out powered by whoring staff or duel infinite combos (btw i challenge anyone me with duel and you with red stance to prove this). So timing is no longer important for sabers in JA. Once you have a reasonable fps such as 70-100 thast all your gonna need. Naturally, timing is still needed for projectile weapons such as guns, so high fps would help in that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Originally posted by SpecialForces OMG MY COMP OWNS ALL OF YOURS!!!!!! 600 mhz (HOLY **** THATS FAST) intel 1 graphics card (THE BEST) 256 mb ram (UP TO DATE) oh yea i get an amazing 0 to 10 fps on jk2!!!!!!!! OMG THAT IS SO GOOOOOOOOD................ my life sucks... Prepare to compare ! 700 Mhz! [Gawd damn how fast is that!] Intel 32MB 82810 Graphics controller. [HOLY SHUGAR SNAX IT COST ALOT!] 128 Mb Ram [Gawd damn! ] And an amazing 5-20 fps on Jedi Academy. My computer rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterSidious Posted November 5, 2003 Share Posted November 5, 2003 Originally posted by Michaelmexp Prepare to compare ! 700 Mhz! [Gawd damn how fast is that!] Intel 32MB 82810 Graphics controller. [HOLY SHUGAR SNAX IT COST ALOT!] 128 Mb Ram [Gawd damn! ] And an amazing 5-20 fps on Jedi Academy. My computer rocks! You said lets compare so I will. First off because you have 32mb you CAN play JA and the 600mhz one can't That's the only reason that I can think of that the 6000mhz is worse than yours though Ooops, hehe, take away the extra zero in the "6000mhz" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00ki3 Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Thats a poor joke. As bad as: 'I would have enclosed the money, but I'd already sealed the envelope' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialForces Posted November 7, 2003 Share Posted November 7, 2003 Originally posted by Michaelmexp Prepare to compare ! 700 Mhz! [Gawd damn how fast is that!] Intel 32MB 82810 Graphics controller. [HOLY SHUGAR SNAX IT COST ALOT!] 128 Mb Ram [Gawd damn! ] And an amazing 5-20 fps on Jedi Academy. My computer rocks! to bad I STILL WIN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 Originally posted by Emon By the way, is dynamic glow causing extreme slowness for everyone else? How about you guys on nVidia cards? I can't understand why it's so damn slow, even when there's no glowing stuff on my screen, I still only get like 30 FPS! And this is on my Athlon XP 2000+, Radeon 9700 Pro and 768 MB of PC2100... Before I thought it was only a problem on ATI cards, but you guys seem to be having trouble with it, too... I using GeForce 4 MX 440 AGP 8X Athlon XP 2000+ 1.6 GHz 512BM RAM and i can't even get dynamic glow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooeypants Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest I using GeForce 4 MX 440 AGP 8X Athlon XP 2000+ 1.6 GHz 512BM RAM and i can't even get dynamic glow. The mx440 is basically a boosted up Gef 2 mx, for starters it's not even directx 8 compliant (not compatible as thats a seperate issue), even the Geforce 3 has hardware pixel and vertex shaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted November 15, 2003 Share Posted November 15, 2003 Originally posted by Pooeypants The mx440 is basically a boosted up Gef 2 mx, for starters it's not even directx 8 compliant (not compatible as thats a seperate issue), even the Geforce 3 has hardware pixel and vertex shaders. I just found out that my card was a GeForce 4 MX 440 SE!!!! Originally posted by SpecialForces to bad I STILL WIN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Also win him. Muahahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooeypants Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest I just found out that my card was a GeForce 4 MX 440 SE!!!! I had an mx440se and guess what, it's a clocked down version and performs worse than a normal mx440... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted December 1, 2003 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Ok i got a new GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 128MB DDR. I get around 50-90 fps (normally) with vsync off, max detail, dynamic glow/lights on and projected shadows My frend told me i could get 200 fps or higher with "Riva Tuner" I dl one from guru3d. But i dont think its the latest version as they gave me an important message about my 52.70 drivers. Can someone give me the link to the latest one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooeypants Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest Ok i got a new GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 128MB DDR. I get around 50-90 fps (normally) with vsync off, max detail, dynamic glow/lights on and projected shadows My frend told me i could get 200 fps or higher with "Riva Tuner" I dl one from guru3d. But i dont think its the latest version as they gave me an important message about my 52.70 drivers. Can someone give me the link to the latest one? I'm sorry but could you tell your friend to stick that comment where the sun don't shine? The game engine defaults to 90fps max. Do have FSAA and AF on? RivaTuner is a tool used for overclocking the Core frequency and Mem freq, thus lowering hardware life. I would say 50 to 90fps with everything max. is more than enough for anyone and damn good performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow_Nest Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 70-90 fps depends on the map too I get like 20-30 fps on most maps. I get more in MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pooeypants Posted December 2, 2003 Share Posted December 2, 2003 Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest 70-90 fps depends on the map too I get like 20-30 fps on most maps. I get more in MP. With Multiplayer the engine tends not to render as much detail (intentionally) so that you get better frame rates. Overclocking will at best probably give you extra 10% performance, don't think it's worth it to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoJiTa Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 The game engine defaults to 90fps max. No, it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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