TK-8252 Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Not all "honor style" servers are run by "fruity" 12 year olds, sorry to break it to you. BTW, name calling is very immature and childish. Grow up, guys... You don't see me calling people "geeks" or "fruity" or "fags" or "gay". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DK-Squee Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 I totally agree with TK, ure acting like the childish people are the admins and the people that run the server when you are the ones that are childish, e.g. name calling like tk said, taking opinions as offending, and last but defenatly not least whining about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by AxVegetA What? SIN server? when was that? My current online names are O2 and VegetA, both in light blue and white, and reborn blue skin, are u sure it was me? If it was me, i am sorry and ill be pleased to duel you anytime. PM me to set a day/hour/server. it was a month or so ago and i saw your name (in white and cyan) and called your name many times and you never answer'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxVegetA Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by Rumor it was a month or so ago and i saw your name (in white and cyan) and called your name many times and you never answer'd. Well, its posible, when i ffaown i dont read a ****. So as i said, pm me with a day/hour/server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syzerian Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 i usually play siege or duel on game arena cogs because there r no real lamers or over chatters. but there is one problem with siege where there is this mole going around helping the other teams and well there is 3 of them now and its sort of annoying when the enemy wins in 2 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted December 10, 2003 Share Posted December 10, 2003 Originally posted by AxVegetA Well, its posible, when i ffaown i dont read a ****. So as i said, pm me with a day/hour/server. you were chatting up a storm and getting your ass kicked by yours truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Ive seen you as O2 on [sL] server why dont u both pick a day meet there ppl are allowed to play on our server yes, we encourage it, check my sig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 What the "h0n0r d00dz" fail to realize is that The Default Condition of the Game is NON-HONOR! Honor is not in the manual, readme or on official site. Honor hasn't been sanctioned or promoted by the developers who made the game. Honor, if followed, makes 99% of the tactics, gamemodes, powers and weapons in the game utterly useless and therefore 99% of the time and money the developers spent on JA is wasted. Honor has nothing to do with Star Wars, since it is not evidenced in any of any of the canon of Star Wars. Fact: "Honor Codes" are not a universal standard. They were made up by some video game players sometime after JK2 came out. They also have a bad habit of invading servers and demanding that admins enforce their made up honor codes. I've had people join my server and demand I follow honor, to which I just laughed and told them to leave if they don't like playing the game how it was designed to be played. Additionally, "h0n0r d00dz" like to abuse the "Vote-Kick" feature unfortunately present on many public servers to "punish" people who don't subscribe to the honor code they follow. Example: (Guy is killled while standing in the middle of the map chatting for the last 5 minutes). Guy: OMG LAMER! YOU LAMED ME YOU ****ER! KICK HIM!!! *call vote to kick person who killed him* Guys' Friends: KICK THE ****ING LAMER! *vote kicks the "lamer"* This is petty and pathetic behavior. No "h0n0r d00d" has ever been able to satisfactorily explain why if they're not there to "compete" getting killed while they are standing there chatting or with their saber off it matters. They also fail to explain why they can't simply go into spectator mode if they just want to "watch" or "chat." Or (heavens!) join a Dueling Server if that's all they want to do... Finally, they fail to take responsibility for the fact that they were making themselves a juicy target in the first place by standing there when they they should have been paying attention. If the "lamer" really has no skill at all (which they always claim) then surely getting 1 kill when the person wasn't paying attention shouldn't let them win. Yet they always try to get the guy kicked the instant they "lame" even once. Sounds more like poor sportsmanship to me. The "h0n0r d00dz" seem overwhelmingly to be the poor sports, not the so-called "lamers." "Lamers" are just playing the game the way it was meant to be played. The RPGers and Honor folks are the ones trying to change it. So its on THEM to explain to everyone how their system works and enforce it on their OWN servers, and not arrogantly assuming that everyone agrees with them except "lamers" (Ie: they assume if you disagree with them you're an idiot or rude). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 haha kurgan nice double post (yes it happens to us all morons, even admins and competitive players) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Originally posted by MrDomin0 I see, so then you come here and complain about them complaining and kicking you out. That sounds a bit like pissing on something and then wondering why it smells like piss. Again, the obvious answer, find a server where there are no "honor ****," where there are specific rules against it, and play there. Is ok if straight guys are honorable though? What about women? I'm sorry, but the irony of your post made me laugh Rumor. You go on about how twelve-year olds are annoying by turning around and pasting a gradeschool insult on that same group. Is "fag" one of the three insults you use? Next to "jew" and "gay?" Am I a "jewbag" now for disagreeing with you? My my I can't count today, that's four insults. All I'm saying is that it's a wide internet with a lot of odd people out there, and they have as much a right to do what they do as you do to do your own thing. So suck it up and move on. hello moron gay/fag/jew on the intarweb = STUPID or some variation 99% of the time. btw thanks for takin the time to keep track of how many insults i've sent out today. try a little dose of comprehension next time you post, thanks. (i wont quote it this time since i'm at school and i'm lazy). having a low tolerance for stupidity at times is not comparable to someone insulting others for killing their avatar in a video game, tyvm. /edit: invading of servers to enforce hon0rz is about as comparable as mw/sf invading our threads and derailing them intentionally. This and more at 9. Thanks for watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Originally posted by Kurgan What the "h0n0r d00dz" fail to realize is that The Default Condition of the Game is NON-HONOR! Hmm... so then why was the "mods" menu created? The game was meant to be modded and changed. There is no rule that people MUST play the game EXACTLY AS IT WAS INTENDED for. Originally posted by Kurgan Honor is not in the manual, readme or on official site. ]TEH F***ING RAVEN SOFTWARE ARE TEH NOHONOR LAMER N00BZZZ!!! KICK TEH RAVEN SOFTWAER>!!!!!!11 So what? Is there some reason that people must play exactly how some book or website tells you? Originally posted by Kurgan Honor hasn't been sanctioned or promoted by the developers who made the game. ]TEH F***ING RAVEN SOFTWARE ARE TEH NOHONOR LAMER N00BZZZ!!! KICK TEH RAVEN SOFTWAER>!!!!!!11 So what? Is there some reason that people must play exactly how some guys at a company tell you to? Originally posted by Kurgan Honor, if followed, makes 99% of the tactics, gamemodes, powers and weapons in the game utterly useless and therefore 99% of the time and money the developers spent on JA is wasted. Raven Software got their money, that's all they're worried about... Originally posted by Kurgan Honor has nothing to do with Star Wars, since it is not evidenced in any of any of the canon of Star Wars. As I've said before, it's a multiplayer video game. This is not the Star Wars movies or a single player mission. Originally posted by Kurgan Fact: "Honor Codes" are not a universal standard. They were made up by some video game players sometime after JK2 came out. And look just how popular they are now. Originally posted by Kurgan They also have a bad habit of invading servers and demanding that admins enforce their made up honor codes. This is, truely a shame... Originally posted by Kurgan Additionally, "h0n0r d00dz" like to abuse the "Vote-Kick" feature unfortunately present on many public servers to "punish" people who don't subscribe to the honor code they follow. Not all "h0n0r d00dz". Infact, I've never tried to vote-kick someone in my history of Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. And I've never tried to push honor on people. Originally posted by Kurgan They also fail to explain why they can't simply go into spectator mode if they just want to "watch" or "chat." Or (heavens!) join a Dueling Server if that's all they want to do... People want to do a little of everything, not just constant FFA. A little of duelling, chatting, FFAing, RPing, spectating, wandering around doing nothing, etc. You can't really RP, duel, or FFA when you're in spectator mode... and if the server lets you wander around saber off and chat THEN YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO! Originally posted by Kurgan Finally, they fail to take responsibility for the fact that they were making themselves a juicy target in the first place by standing there when they they should have been paying attention. If the server has rules to "protect" a "juicy target" (meaning someone who's not fighting, just wondering around saber off) then they do not consider themselves a target at all. Therefore they do not expect to be attacked. Originally posted by Kurgan If the "lamer" really has no skill at all (which they always claim) then surely getting 1 kill when the person wasn't paying attention shouldn't let them win. Yet they always try to get the guy kicked the instant they "lame" even once. Sounds more like poor sportsmanship to me. One broken rule isn't enough to get someone kicked at my server... Originally posted by Kurgan The "h0n0r d00dz" seem overwhelmingly to be the poor sports, not the so-called "lamers." Partly true. Most "h0n0r d00dz" are like that, but not all. And there have been plenty of lamers who have wondered into the JK3Files server who aren't very polite themselves. One guy came in and broke our rules, including language rules... we tried to explain, but he just completely ignored. We kicked him, he came right back (with a different name). We told him that we knew it was just him, the IP explains it all. He just pretends that he's not the same person. Once he said: "Oh, I'm sorry... is this a no-laming server?" And then chat killed someone near by. He continued (all day) coming back with different names, causing trouble. Originally posted by Kurgan "Lamers" are just playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Not true. I believe that laming only exists on servers with an "honor code". If someone chat kills, or attacks someone with their saber off on a TRUE FFA server it's not laming. Originally posted by Kurgan The RPGers and Honor folks are the ones trying to change it. So sue them! Is there some law against having a different way of playing a game? Originally posted by Kurgan So its on THEM to explain to everyone how their system works and enforce it on their OWN servers, and not arrogantly assuming that everyone agrees with them except "lamers" This is how the "h0n0r d00dz" should function. Unfortunantly, many of those 12 year old punks don't just have enough sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amidala from Chop Shop Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Originally posted by TK8252MJL Not true. I believe that laming only exists on servers with an "honor code". If someone chat kills, or attacks someone with their saber off on a TRUE FFA server it's not laming. My goodness TK, right you are, right you are!! Why can't other people who follow "honor codes" understand what you stated so clearly??!! Please explain it to them over and over again. Please make a chat bind and hit it every 5 minutes on your server. So many "honor players" (and I put players inside the quotes because I'm not sure "wandering around doing nothing" as you put it qualifies as playing) think that "saber down = peace" is some kind of Universal Truth and Law that was on the back of those tablets Moses carried down from the mountain. Not true. You get it, please explain it to your comrades. Oh well, thank goodness for xMod's profanity filter. The only words I have on my profanity list are f**k, n*g**r, and lamer, so no one on my servers needs to ever see those words again. Oh, and I also added !kton and !loud, so killtracker spammers can't use their spam generators:amidala: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Originally posted by Amidala from Chop Shop Oh, and I also added !kton and !loud, so killtracker spammers can't use their spam generators:amidala: Well, the kill tracker automatically comes on when someone joins. Does censoring the words !kton and !loud work? Also, the guys I hang around with know that honor and Yoda's Code of Conduct (whatever you wanna call it) are NOT universal. A server has a right to host whatever kind of gameplay they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuahtemoc Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Originally posted by kantaris So, apparantly, a game, in which the purpose is to kill others, if you kill somebody with their saber down or their chat box up, it's unethical. If you people want to chat, go on IRC, that's what it's for. If you dont want to fight, then simply DON'T PLAY! It's not hard! I can't get a decent game in, because on most of the servers, you get kicked/banned for playing the game! If you use force powers alot, it's considered laming, and some of the time, you get a server kick. Gripping off a cliff is laming, using guns is laming (on a gun server too!) I agree. I'm not actually going to say a word pertaining to the subject at hand, namely because, I believe, this topic has been ranted about all too much. But I still agree. edit - well, I can't NOT bitch about something, so i'll bitch about "laming." Who the FLYING F*CK came up with that word? Jesssssssus it should be friggin banned from existence! goddamnit everywhere I go, everything I do, if I get a kill, I'm automatically a lamer. If I get a great thermal det throw, I'm spammer thermal detonators, therefore I am a lamer. If I kill f*cking idiots waiting in line to DUEL on a motherf*cking FFA server, I'm a lamer. Sh*t, if somebody walks off a cliff of their own accord, I'm a lamer. Someday, I'm just gonna track down one of these ratbastards who uses that words and I will beat him to a pulp, lol Hey mods i'm sorry bout my language. I just needed to bitch about people using the woord lamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrD0min0 Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Originally posted by Rumor hello moron gay/fag/jew on the intarweb = STUPID or some variation 99% of the time. btw thanks for takin the time to keep track of how many insults i've sent out today. try a little dose of comprehension next time you post, thanks. (i wont quote it this time since i'm at school and i'm lazy). having a low tolerance for stupidity at times is not comparable to someone insulting others for killing their avatar in a video game, tyvm. /edit: invading of servers to enforce hon0rz is about as comparable as mw/sf invading our threads and derailing them intentionally. This and more at 9. Thanks for watching. Again, I have to laugh at the irony of what you just posted. You claim very clearly that it is alright to kill a video game avatar (I'm with you there) presumably because it is the digital world and is therefore insignificant. Of course though, several sentences earlier you seem to claim that it is alright for the same digital world to pervert the english language. Just because a bunch of little boys who never grew up launch a tired rolodex of 50 year old insults seems inadequate reason to me to change the laws of language around. I'm going to toss an idea out there, maybe instead of asking others to work on personal comprehension you should think about what you're typing. You'd be surprised how well that works in real life too. Which reminds me, I should probably introduce you to what we adults call the real world. In the real world ignorance is frowned upon. For example, lodging numbers into words? Not big in the real world. Forgetting to capitalize the word "I?" Not a popular seller in the real world. You see, here's the funny thing, when you go around claiming that someone is a moron you should probably do what you can to not come of as an equal shade of moron, it kind of makes you look silly. And to clarify, I never said that any form of server invasion was fine. It's ridiculous. The argument works both ways. You could sacrifice virtual goats in a server for all I care, just don't get in other people's business. In case you haven't picked it up yet, most online games have this problem or something like it. Why? Because the world is full of idiots with time on their hands. Which is why you go find a good server and play there rather than whining on about it. Viola! Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Again, I have to laugh at the irony of what you just posted. You claim very clearly that it is alright to kill a video game avatar (I'm with you there) presumably because it is the digital world and is therefore insignificant. Of course though, several sentences earlier you seem to claim that it is alright for the same digital world to pervert the english language. Just because a bunch of little boys who never grew up launch a tired rolodex of 50 year old insults seems inadequate reason to me to change the laws of language around. According to British scholars, American English is a perversion in and of itself. Wake up and smell the coffee, this is the internet, not a job interview or a term paper. I will "pervert" the English language any way i see fit, as it is casual, and informal. Even in English class they teach you that such things as slang are more than acceptable. Also, if i really wanted to i would type like this, but then I am in the spirit of saving time, so i shall refrain from doing so and type as fast as i can, only correcting what i see fit. I'm going to toss an idea out there, maybe instead of asking others to work on personal comprehension you should think about what you're typing. You'd be surprised how well that works in real life too. Again, this is the internet, Not a job interview or a term paper. You should actually think about your own posts first. Oh, and by the way, have you attempted to derail any good threads lately? No? Well you are trying pretty hard on this one. If you wish to debate with or criticize me, take it to my clan boards where you won't disrupt the normal flow of a good topic with faintly veiled flames. Unlike other clans we won't edit or ban you because of your views. http://www.kaoticz.com is the address, you are more than welcome to flame me to your heart's content there, but do not derail this thread over nitpicking something that is over and donewith, nor for casual typing on a message board. Which reminds me, I should probably introduce you to what we adults call the real world. In the real world ignorance is frowned upon. For example, lodging numbers into words? Not big in the real world. Forgetting to capitalize the word "I?" Not a popular seller in the real world. You see, here's the funny thing, when you go around claiming that someone is a moron you should probably do what you can to not come of as an equal shade of moron, it kind of makes you look silly. Yes and "h0n0r d00dz" is a real-world term. If you were so concerned you would be breathing down the neck of everyone here. I don't feel like repeating myself yet again, so i'll just quote myself (because my ego is huge, and because you have offended my honour ): Wake up and smell the coffee, this is the internet, not a job interview or a term paper. I will "pervert" the English language any way i see fit, as it is casual, and informal. Even in English class they teach you that such things as slang are more than acceptable. Also, if i really wanted to i would type like this, but then I am in the spirit of saving time, so i shall refrain from doing so and type as fast as i can, only correcting what i see fit. Are we clear on that yet? And to clarify, I never said that any form of server invasion was fine. It's ridiculous. The argument works both ways. You could sacrifice virtual goats in a server for all I care, just don't get in other people's business. In case you haven't picked it up yet, most online games have this problem or something like it. Why? Because the world is full of idiots with time on their hands. Which is why you go find a good server and play there rather than whining on about it. Viola! Problem solved. My typing method is none of your business either. It is readily understandable and that is what counts. Keep trolling along all you like, but i will not respond or reply here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxVegetA Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Originally posted by Rumor you were chatting up a storm and getting your ass kicked by yours truly. Wtf is that suposed to mean? i dont understand english very well. As i said set a ****ing date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Originally posted by Rumor We challenged you months ago. You never responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Blackrose Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Oh well, thank goodness for xMod's profanity filter. The only words I have on my profanity list are f**k, n*g**r, and lamer, so no one on my servers needs to ever see those words again. Well, tonight I was on the Chop Shop for a brief period... Managed to run into one of the fanbois. The funny thing was he spoke incoherently. It was just a bunch of words strung together. Perfect, time to use the age old quote... English mother****er, speak it? Now I know why it was garbled. Anyways... Just a brief word. Raven Software has no honor. This and more at 10 o'clock, after Rumor is dead for stealing my trademark. That's right, you're getting capped in an alleyway... Kicking and screaming preferably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Originally posted by Rad Blackrose This and more at 10 o'clock, after Rumor is dead for stealing my trademark. That's right, you're getting capped in an alleyway... Kicking and screaming preferably. All is fair in love and war. This is certainly not war. Bsides plaz uses mine all the time like "e-life" and "e-wellbeing" not to mention the definitions (which many have emulated *cough* marker *cough*). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_PerfectAgent_ Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Originally posted by TK8252MJL Well, the kill tracker automatically comes on when someone joins. Does censoring the words !kton and !loud work? Yeah, it tracks all the chats you make, not what you type. So if you are unable to create !kton or !loud in a chat, then it will not work. But I'm not sure about the keeping from starting automatically thing... There is a similar scheme that someone can control another's kill tracker. Just rename yourself to that persons name and do all the commands! You can even control the other person's music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Originally posted by _PerfectAgent_ There is a similar scheme that someone can control another's kill tracker. Just rename yourself to that persons name and do all the commands! You can even control the other person's music! LOL! You could probably kill yourself over and over and over, screwing their kill to death ratio! Kill trackers are eeeeeevil!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted December 13, 2003 Share Posted December 13, 2003 Well since this topic was basically run its course, I'm closing it. You can issue more challenges and such in the Clans forum or through Private Messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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