Okoru Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 First of all hello to you all, i havn't been here for a long time now, i was here hyping KOTOR for a short time under the name Dark Dragon(Cheesy i know) a while back. I wasn't gonna re-join, but simply need to ask the following question, as its been bugging me ever since i played KOTOR for the first, of many, times. Basically, if i'm not mistaken, we never actually learn what it was that corrupted Reven and Malak do we? We know they went to fight in the Mandalorian wars, with Reven playing a major part in the Republics victory. We know that after they and the fleet dissapered that they were seen on a number of worlds gathering the Star Maps. We know they crashed on the Star Forge system and found their way upto the Star Forge, gaining control of it. However how did they learn of the Star Forge in the first place, and when exactly did Reven turn(In the Dantooine flashback Reven is decked out in Sith robes and Malak mentions there won't be any turning back) Basically i'm having a bit of trouble putting all the events together. I'm sure there were plotlines left out of the first, so will they be explained here, i hope so, and expect so too. Kind Regards Okoru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Hey there, welcome back. You have indeed summed up all the known events: Revan and Malak dissappeared after they beat the Sith Fleet, only to turn up again as Siths. Nothing of the events inbetween is known, and I am sure there will be some more light shed on them in Sith Lords. After all, it seems as if Revan has dissappeared once again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okoru Posted May 25, 2004 Author Share Posted May 25, 2004 Hey thanks Com Raven. I was begining to think no-one was gonna reply to this lol. Okoru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okoru Posted November 21, 2004 Author Share Posted November 21, 2004 I've been gone for like 6+ months, and now I return to say ONE word: BUMPAGE! Kind Regards Okoru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90SK Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 Well, I think that main reason Revan turned was that he was smart; he had most of the Republic fleet at his back, and an infinite source of fleet-age. It was the logical choice; Malak just followed him to the Dark side. Plus, it was the taint of the Star forge that helped them along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starmark2k Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I think they were already going down the dark path when they desided to attack mandalorians. and jedi are only suppose to fight in the defense of themselves or others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom750 Posted November 21, 2004 Share Posted November 21, 2004 I posted a thread about the robes thing a while ago you can read if you wish. http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=131308 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naphtali Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Okoru First of all hello to you all, i havn't been here for a long time now, i was here hyping KOTOR for a short time under the name Dark Dragon(Cheesy i know) a while back. I wasn't gonna re-join, but simply need to ask the following question, as its been bugging me ever since i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naphtali Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Okoru First of all hello to you all, i havn't been here for a long time now, i was here hyping KOTOR for a short time under the name Dark Dragon(Cheesy i know) a while back. I wasn't gonna re-join, but simply need to ask the following question, as its been bugging me ever since i played KOTOR for the first, of many, times. Basically, if i'm not mistaken, we never actually learn what it was that corrupted Reven and Malak do we? We know they went to fight in the Mandalorian wars, with Reven playing a major part in the Republics victory. We know that after they and the fleet dissapered that they were seen on a number of worlds gathering the Star Maps. We know they crashed on the Star Forge system and found their way upto the Star Forge, gaining control of it. However how did they learn of the Star Forge in the first place, and when exactly did Reven turn(In the Dantooine flashback Reven is decked out in Sith robes and Malak mentions there won't be any turning back) Basically i'm having a bit of trouble putting all the events together. I'm sure there were plotlines left out of the first, so will they be explained here, i hope so, and expect so too. Kind Regards Okoru Actually it was explained by the elders, in the dialouge, the Star Forge uses energy generated by life, the force, however the builders were violent, hateful, and destructive the star forge beagan to characterize these traits, thus when Reven and Malak went to destroy the star forge they were corrupted, stole the star forge and became pretenders of the sith legacy. However you could argue that the seed developed when they went to fight the mandalorians, remeber on the rakatan planet all the old eqiipment and ships, and the mandalorians thats what the jedi were refering to when they said he disappeared in space for a period of time. However note the theme "THE BENEVOLENT SITH LORDS HAVE RETURN", "THESE GUYS ARE PLURAL BAD GUYS". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starmark2k Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 ^^^ Yep you're proberly right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdcquicksilver5 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 If revan found the starforge during the mandalorian war then why did he look for the starmaps afterword...I think that the robes revan wore on dantooine were his normal sith robes,but when he got to the starforge it created a better version of the robes to fit his fighting style personality exc. better hence the stat bonuses. but im probably wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdcquicksilver5 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Oh ya, and i think that when he was on dantooine lookin for the starmap, he was really just lookin for sith stuff in general. you know a holocron or somethin. I thought that all rouge jedi did that.I bet he accidentally found the star map in his investigation of the dark side.Its all getting clearer to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naphtali Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Originally posted by Tdcquicksilver5 If revan found the starforge during the mandalorian war then why did he look for the starmaps afterword...I think that the robes revan wore on dantooine were his normal sith robes,but when he got to the starforge it created a better version of the robes to fit his fighting style personality exc. better hence the stat bonuses. but im probably wrong. Because he knew the starmaps would reveal the location of the star forge he didn't want anyone to find him, or the source of his massive fleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okoru Posted November 25, 2004 Author Share Posted November 25, 2004 Er aren't you forgetting something very important: Malak to Revan on Dantooine: "Are the secrets of the Star Forge so valuble? Can its power truely be worth the risk? Why would they be looking for the Star Maps if they, and Malak confirms they havn't, already knew where it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdcquicksilver5 Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 Why would they be looking for the Star Maps if they, and Malak confirms they havn't, already knew where it was?Theory1: Maybe they found a star map on another planet,and were using them to find the starforge. Theory2:Maybe the sith lords from kotor2 sent revan and malak to find the star forge,and told them that they could find clues to were it was on dantooine.But that is assuming that revan and malak were taking orders from other sith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starmark2k Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 I think they simply heard about it when reading ancient scriptures or somthing to that effect because malak says "the ancient jedi sealed this place for a reason(or somthing to that effect)" so they had to have known what the ancient jedi did aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuitari_28 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Why are revan and Malak pretenders all these new sith lords only came about in the wake of Revan when he/she left. The true sith Lords are all dead and are just preserved in spirit. So truth in all Malak and Revan are not pretenders and anyway this a new sith old sith were a race. The sith of KOTOR are followers of an ideal so Revan and Malak were Sith Lords of a different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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