Xirion Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Every game has Campers, so get yoyr tents ready cos BF will have them too, I have nothing against camping, but some people do, i fell its a war, its either you kill them, or they will kill you, kill or be killed, and if you can do it then good on you. So find a good spot and camp away! And for allthose who are anti campers, i say think! Use your brain, your teamspeak, and TACTICS! Yes people there are tactics, clicking blindly on your mouse while fruitlessly aiming in the desired direction, while running forward is not a tactic, well it is, just a very stupid one So for every camper, there is always away around it, and find it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Alright, first of all, for snipers, camping is the best tactic. There's nothing you can do about it. It would be less fun if a sniper would do a frontal assault. I am for camping, i'm a camper myself, only i'd like to say: no spawncamping! I don't know if it's possible but it sucks if you respawn and get a bullet trough your forehead right away. Furthermore, people that go insult campers and hosts that kick them, are lame. Instead of complaining, they should try to devise a way to take them out and take their spots to gain the upper hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyfreaker Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 i fell that way too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasan Moor Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 uhmm....camping is "coward like" ! face your enemy or die! this is my opinion about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 You can't camp in this game, you destroy and capture waypoints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomie Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 And how better to do that then secure the area and guard it from intruders? Because that's camping y'know, unless it's not always the same person... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Originally posted by Doomgiver And how better to do that then secure the area and guard it from intruders? Because that's camping y'know, unless it's not always the same person... Do you even know what camping spawn is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Camping? I like camping, as long as you get to sit in a nice, little corner and shoot any passerbys. I know, I'm a chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Spawn camping is standing next to the enemy's spawn point and kill him as he spawns What Sabertooth does is legitimate by all, and if it isn't by somebody than this somebody suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Originally posted by tFighterPilot What Sabertooth does is legitimate by all, and if it isn't by somebody than this somebody suck. That's zey only way to camp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sounds Risky Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 It's not spawncamping if you're taking the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountainforest Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Originally posted by Sounds Risky It's not spawncamping if you're taking the base. If the designers do theyr job well, spawnpoints won't lay next to objectives or controlpoints, so that if you are taking a base, the spawnpoint isn't the place you need to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegis Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 In assault games I don't mind if the defenders are camping. Campiung is a tactic on its own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountainforest Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Originally posted by Alegis Gensan In assault games I don't mind if the defenders are camping. Campiung is a tactic on its own Of course, it isn't forbidden to stay on a position if you are defending. That would really be weird, what should you do? Run from door 1 to door 2 to 3 back to 1? BTW I've got 350 posts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggle Posted June 14, 2004 Share Posted June 14, 2004 Camping is a perfectly legitimate and potentially effective tactic spawn camping is on the other hand not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I hate camping. if ya'll have ever played goldenye multiplayer, it sux when the other player hides in the corner with a rocket or a laser or something. campers blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Oosha Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Considering that Goldeneye is a split-screen game that lets you see exactly where your opponents are at all times, I'd be pretty embarassed if I fell for that. If you can see he's just sitting there, you could be out collecting all the weapons and health in the level. Sorry, couldn't resist. I hope to not come back here, at least until the game is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Oosha Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Or just until I actually have something to say about Battlefront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xirion Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 yes spawn camping is bad, but camping and defending is good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tFighterPilot Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Originally posted by Document Oosha Considering that Goldeneye is a split-screen game that lets you see exactly where your opponents are at all times, I'd be pretty embarassed if I fell for that. If you can see he's just sitting there, you could be out collecting all the weapons and health in the level. Sorry, couldn't resist. I hope to not come back here, at least until the game is out. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaebginn Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 That's not as much falling for it, as you get impatient. Te guy is just sitting there, not playing, just waiting, and what do you do once you have all the ammo you can get, huh? and I play liscense to kill (one hit kill) so it'd be no good to get body armor. yes, campers and pretty annyoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoopknacker Posted June 16, 2004 Share Posted June 16, 2004 There is a difference between camping and defending. If this game is anything like BF42 then camp away. Its lame to say the team captured a point and now has to abandon it. Camping is okay as long as it benefits the team. I hate camping snipers that dont get flags or help worth crap. They just frag and its useless. You will have alot of vechile campers in this game, I know. There is a pilot class and chances are they will be camping for the next vechile, especially flying ones. Dont shoot the guy in front of you to get the vechile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 Agrees with the above. You can spawn camp a flag that can be taken, just don't sniper camp an untakeable flag. Why do people hate snipers who camp? Most of the time, they don,t help their team. They just sit there trying to get the highest amount of kills(BF1942 players, remember how it's frustrating to play with the Allies on Omaha Beach?) while other players who try to help the team are stuck with a bunch of worthless sniper and stupid vehicle campers. As ironic as it is, I almost got banned once because I complained about a spawn camper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 I too agree. Spawn camping is just a way to rack up easy kills, with no real skill required. It should be actively discouraged. Having said that, since I've been playing Call Of Duty, I'd have to say sometimes it is difficult not to kill people as they spawn. In CoD, enemies can spawn in close to other enemies - so if you've chased someone down to kill them, and then someone else spawns in front of you and starts shooting you don't have much choice except to take them down. You then, of course, get accused of spawn camping. Personally, I think some of the spawn points in the CoD maps were poorly thought out. I mean, if someone spawns on the ground floor of a building, and you have to go through them to get to the snipers on the roof - what can you do? Ignore the guy who just spawned in so he can shoot you in the back? I can understand why random spawning like this was enabled - to try and combat spawn campers. Except it doesn't really work. So I think spawn points need to be more carefully chosen on maps. I'm actually wondering if another system I saw in another game would work (can't remember which one now). Basically, when you first spawn in, you are invulnerable to attack for something like 5 seconds. This means you have time to orient yourself, and check around you for any potential spawn-campers - and you can take them out without danger to yourself. That would seem to be a fairer solution, to my mind. It would mean that spawn campers cannot simply kill you as you appear - and the spawned player has a chance to look around and find cover before their invulnerability wears off. AS for snipers finding a good spot to 'camp' from - I think that's just an ordinary part of the gameplay. Someone already mentioned that the team should work together to hunt down and kill a sniper, by flanking, sending out a decoy for the sniper to shoot at (sacrifice a team member so the sniper betrays their cover, in other words), etc. Dealing with campers can be a good tactical part of the gameplay, and it's realistic in the context of a 'war'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted June 18, 2004 Share Posted June 18, 2004 I'm against this 5 sec delay. I don't remember where I saw this neither but I'm sure it won't be so good in SWBF. I myself sneak around enemy bases trying to steal a vehicle or something so if I encounter invicible people, sneaking around trying to steal stuff will be suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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