Tyler_Durden Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I will say this, for all of GL's "meddling" with the holy trilogy, it seems that all geeks that do and do not like star wars will always be there to watch them in all their incarnations. That is what Luca$film wants and you guys are falling into their trap by buying these dvd's. If they made another star wars i'm sure many of you guys, like it or not would be at the theater opening day as i'm sure many will be spending their ten bucks for ROTS. this is just an observation, not a flame. Me, i could care less what Luca$ does to his movies as they are in fact his. I have and will always be a hardcore star wars fanatic and i actually like what he's done with the films, and yes i truly and thoroughly enjoyed eps 1 and 2 and i'm sure, no positive that 3 will be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I'm falling into no trap, I chose to buy these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 apart from having hayden at the end of ROTJ, which hopefully will be explained, i'm happy with all the changes i've heard about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipperthefrog Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Originaly posted by jedikenobi- I'm with you Kain!! I wish George would leave the original trilogy alone!! All that time and energy could be spent on something usefull like making sure episode 3 dont dissapoint like 1 and 2 did! THIS HAND RAISED! if Luca$ WANTS to make his new ones good too, he should make the PREQUALS more like the CLASSIC TRILOGHY instead of the other way around! IT DOES appear that all Luca$ wants to do anymore is speacal effects and computer animated characters and slacked off on the stories and character development! On the other hand, its easy to critisize! Maybie Lucas$ is just running out of IDEAS! YOU try to make a movie! I see BOTH sides! By the way, "Luca$" is a good name for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler_Durden Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I got that from aintitcoolnews.com:D Seriously, though, in terms of dialogue and writing i do think Luca$ is lacking. His direction, i think is spotty at times in terms of getting a good performance out of his actors. But from what i understand, with ROTS, he has taken gotten more strict with takes so that he could get a better performance from the actors, but he also lets them bring themselves into their performance more. I think i read that from an interview with Christensen on theforce.net. Really i think Luca$ should exec produce more than anything on his movies in order to allow him more time to fine tune things that should be tuned a la ESB. If he needs to shoot some more scenes he can then direct those. Also, he should have a rough draft outline of what story elements he wants in the movie and then let someone dot he screenplay as Luca$ has admitted that script writing is not his best attribute. But now that it's been confirmed a star wars tv series is in the works, it'll be interesting to see who jumps on board to direct the episodes. Personally i'd like to see some directed by cameron, jackson, and especially spielberg. I think it would be great to see what they could bring to the table, especially if they have stories that they would like to see done in the star wars universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLiberator34 Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 meh, not a big deal. You'll notice that most of the changes are VISUAL, the plot is essentially the same, so why worry? It's not like anyone but Lucas owns star wars, and he fought to keep that license, so why get angry when the man decides to mess with HIS OWN work. Just as long as I don't see jar jar up close in any shots I don't care what he altered. After all it doesn't belong to the fans, we just watch it. Over and over and over again. OCD anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Let me see if I can put this in terms you people can understand. Because you're missing the point. I don't think I own the movies. I know George Lucas owns them. Let's say for instance Robert Plant and Jimmy page from Led Zepplin take up rapping, and mixing and scratching. Now lets say that they decide Stairway to Heaven, a classic song that people have felt was done right the first time around, needs to be overhauled with their new...crap. Yeah, it's theirs, so they CAN do with it whatever they see fit. Does that mean I have to like it? Or be happy about it? Certainly not. Does that mean I'll be buying it? HELL NO. Same with this new bastardized SW trilogy. ps, I hate LZ and Stairway to Heaven almost as much as I hate GL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Originally posted by Siv apart from having hayden at the end of ROTJ, which hopefully will be explained, i'm happy with all the changes i've heard about. Apparently the rationale is that when you are in "spirit form" you are in your true form. In Yoda and Ben's case, they are in their true form when they died. In Anakin's case his true form was before he fell to the dark side. Originally posted by Tyler_Durden Seriously, though, in terms of dialogue and writing i do think Luca$ is lacking. The dialog isn't great, yes, but part of that is on purpose, I think. Lucas is trying to emulate the old Flash Gordan-like serials which also had campy dialog. Heck, even the original series had poor dialog. Where I think he is lacking is in directing actors, and is unable to get their best performances. ESB thrived much more in this regard because it had a proven director. By all accounts Portman, McGregor, and Christienson (sp?) are excellent actors, yet it is problably safe to say none of them have provided their top performances in the prequels (although Ewan hasn't been bad). In the Star Wars: Empire of Dreams documentary, Ford mentions that Lucas's problem with directing is that for the most part he only tells the actors what he doesn't like, and not what he wants. Originally posted by CapNColostomy Yeah, it's theirs, so they CAN do with it whatever they see fit. Does that mean I have to like it? Or be happy about it? Certainly not. Does that mean I'll be buying it? HELL NO. Exactly, if you don't like it, don't buy it. At least you are walking the walk. Most people I see complaining still plan on buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 It's tough when Lucas refuses to make the originals available. For DVD this is your only choice if you want to see the OT, period. Or you can try to dig up an inferior and out of print copy of the OT on ebay or something. Or line some bootlegger's pockets. I heard that the reason Lucas is releasing this now is because he was originally going to wait until after Episode III was released, but did this because of internet piracy. Well, Lucas, I hate to break it to ya, but you missed the point. People are bootlegging the "originals" (non SE, non 2004 editions), and they will continue to if that's the only way for people to get them. There's a definate demand, and he could end it overnight by releasing the originals alongside his new editions. Anyway, since I don't want people to get the impression that discussing the illegal rip is something we promote here, I'm locking this thread. Feel free to discuss the trilogy changes in a new thread or one of the other ones out there. I should have locked this earlier, and I apologize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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