Real Face of Santa...

[Sivy]

Originally posted by InsaneSith

anyone else picking up a child molestor vibe from the look of "santa's" face?

 

no... but i am picking up a child molestor vibe from ET,

with all his talk of pleasing children.

 

 

[Astrotoy7]

Originally posted by Sivy

no... but i am picking up a child molestor vibe from ET,

with all his talk of pleasing children.

 

 

 

yeah, THAT's what he has that damn flashy watch for !

 

mtfbwya

[Pie™]

Originally posted by Astrotoy7

as for Santa, I prefer groovy's version

Me too, oh boy am I gonna summon him from the chimney

[El Sitherino]

what do you think of your precious santa now?!

 

[GothiX]

<3

[Spider AL]

Well, Ive got the solution for you Mr Groovey Become muslim, buddhist, hindu ! I have NEVER had to worry about xmas.

You don't have to convert from christianity to stop celebrating christmas, just look at the fact that Jesus (presuming he's real) was NOT born during the pagan winter solstice! Christmas time has NO significance in christianity at all. So stop celebrating it, you heretic.

[El Sitherino]

Originally posted by Spider AL

You don't have to convert from christianity to stop celebrating christmas, just look at the fact that Jesus (presuming he's real) was NOT born during the pagan winter solstice! Christmas time has NO significance in christianity at all. So stop celebrating it, you heretic.

exactly, christmas never had anything to do with religion and it's celebration. It was political, until it became a corporate holiday. Christianity absorbed pagan rituals and the like to help squash it and make christianity rule. To crush ones enemy you must destroy its morale and divide the troops.

[Kain]

The True Face of Santa:

 

All throughout history, names have been jumbled and facts distorted. As such Satan became Santa. Wierd proof:

 

Santa: Mispelling of Satan.

Claus: Satan has claws. Another misinterpritation.

Elves: Mischeivous little men...sounds alot like the small demons of Hell. And if not that, Santa has them enslaved.

Christmas: The time of the year when Greed, one of the 7 Deadly Sins, is at its fullest.

Reindeer: Flying deer? Sounds alot like possession **** to me.

Around the World in a Night: Sounds like you'd need some omnipotent power...much like what Satan and God possess.

 

>.>

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[jon_hill987]

As Bart Simpson said:

There's only one fat guy who brings us presents, and it ain't Santa

 

The whole legend was just based on some religious chap who was nice to poor people in the winter. maybe he even droped money down their chimneys.

 

 

 

 

Well that make more sense now...

[Spider AL]

Around the World in a Night: Sounds like you'd need some omnipotent power...much like what Satan and God possess.

Just a point of specific dogma, Satan can't be omnipotent- possessing of unlimited power- because God's the boss. Jehoover's the only omnipotent figure in Christian mythology as far as one is aware.

[El Sitherino]

Originally posted by Spider AL

Just a point of specific dogma, Satan can't be omnipotent- possessing of unlimited power- because God's the boss. Jehoover's the only omnipotent figure in Christian mythology as far as one is aware.

so how does satan corrupt all and destroy all which god tries to achieve?

 

 

<_< just curious.

[jon_hill987]

Originally posted by InsaneSith

so how does satan corrupt all and destroy all which god tries to achieve?

 

With chaos.

 

It is a well known fact that chaos always defeats order, Its better organised. chaos is found in greatest abundence whenever order is being sort.

[IG-64]

Originally posted by Spider AL

Christmas time has NO significance in christianity at all.

 

Wrong, the christians made christmas, they chose the day based on another holiday which was really a pegan festival.

 

I don't excactly enjoy my religion being kicked in the balls all the time. So before you beat it down into the dirt take into consideration that people like me actually belive in it. You people talk about how christians don't respect other's beliefs, but you fail to look in the mirror.

 

Christianity absorbed pagan rituals and the like to help squash it and make christianity rule. To crush ones enemy you must destroy its morale and divide the troops.

That's so cynical it makes me sick.

[ET Warrior]

Originally posted by IG-64

That's so cynical it makes me sick.

 

The problem is that it is the truth. The reasoning behind it is when Constantine converted to Christianity and therefore wanted to bring all of Rome along with him, he still needed to maintain a little respect for the pagan rituals and customs, otherwise he would have alienated all of his subjects.

 

So he turned pagan holidays into Christian ones.

[IG-64]

Originally posted by ET Warrior

The problem is that it is the truth. The reasoning behind it is when Constantine converted to Christianity and therefore wanted to bring all of Rome along with him, he still needed to maintain a little respect for the pagan rituals and customs, otherwise he would have alienated all of his subjects.

 

So he turned pagan holidays into Christian ones.

 

Well, it doesn't mean we're all like those old roman dudes, all they wanted was to take over everything anyways

[El Sitherino]

Originally posted by IG-64

Wrong, the christians made christmas, they chose the day based on another holiday which was really a pegan festival.

 

I don't excactly enjoy my religion being kicked in the balls all the time. So before you beat it down into the dirt take into consideration that people like me actually belive in it. You people talk about how christians don't respect other's beliefs, but you fail to look in the mirror.

.... I dont' think anyone dissing christianity here, just stating facts. seems to me you can't read.

 

Originally posted by IG-64

That's so cynical it makes me sick.

*hands you vomit bag* have fun.

[ET Warrior]

Well, it doesn't mean we're all like those old roman dudes, all they wanted was to take over everything anyways

 

But that didn't have anything to do with conquest. Constantine was already emperor, and all of Rome was Pagan.

 

But then Constantine had a dream before a battle that his banners should be replaced with christian ones and he would win, he did it, he won, and converted.

 

But faced with the difficulty of ruling as a christian emperor with pagan followers was difficult. he needed to get Christianity incorporated in a way that wouldn't offend their pagan rituals too much, but they couldn't still perform pagan rituals. So holidays had to be replaced

[El Sitherino]

Originally posted by IG-64

Well, it doesn't mean we're all like those old roman dudes, all they wanted was to take over everything anyways

of course not, just america and the planet earth. Not everything.

[IG-64]

All i'm saying is that christians aren't the evil slimebags you make them out to be. I'm not saying it's a right thing to do to disrespect other religions, but the christians didn't convert people with the attitude of "screw you all, christianity will rule" they did it in the attitude of love for the fellow human. Because if you have a religion, you must belive all other religions are fake, same with beliveing in evolution. Now, christans don't want everyone to fry in hell because we love them and don't want to see that happen to them. So while, yes, they did disrespect other religions in the proccess of making everything christan, they didn't do it out of hate and tyranny.

 

And yes, IS, comments like "Jehoover's the only omnipotent figure in Christian mythology as far as one is aware." are offensive to me. And i'm not just talking about this one thread, i'm talking about all the time.

[Pie™]

Originally posted by IG-64

the christians didn't convert people with the attitude of "screw you all, christianity will rule" they did it in the attitude of love for the fellow human.

That shows a lot of ignorance of the crusades, which amongst others hit Norway and killed a lot of my ancestors so they could be "saved"

 

Halleluja!

[El Sitherino]

Originally posted by IG-64

the christians didn't convert people with the attitude of "screw you all, christianity will rule"

noones saying that....

 

Originally posted by IG-64

Because if you have a religion, you must belive all other religions are fake, same with beliveing in evolution. Now, christans don't want everyone to fry in hell because we love them and don't want to see that happen to them. So while, yes, they did disrespect other religions in the proccess of making everything christan, they didn't do it out of hate and tyranny.

if people haven't accepted your "saviour" by now, they won't ever. kthxbai.

 

Originally posted by IG-64

And yes, IS, comments like "Jehoover's the only omnipotent figure in Christian mythology as far as one is aware." are offensive to me. And i'm not just talking about this one thread, i'm talking about all the time.

 

... you're too easily offended, not our fault. If anything Al just defended your precious santa and christianity. dont' be ungrateful

[IG-64]

too easily offended? So I can just let my belifs be passed off as mythology, but other people can get all pissy about the mention of the word God in schools and take out christmas carols and the ten commandments?

[Spider AL]

so how does satan corrupt all and destroy all which god tries to achieve?

Well in purely Christian terms, he doesn't. God's a pro, he knows all. Everything that happens is his will, full stop. So even those who dislike him, Satan for instance, are really merely pawns on his chessboard. We may have free will, but however we use it we'll end up conforming to God's infinite plan anyway.

 

All i'm saying is that christians aren't the evil slimebags you make them out to be.

Sure they are! At least, a lot of them are.

 

but the christians didn't convert people with the attitude of "screw you all, christianity will rule"

They converted largely through fear. If you don't do what we say, EXACTLY WHAT WE SAY,... you'll burn in hell for all eternity while having your rectum progressively stretched by all Satan's little imps.

 

Yeah, that's in keeping with christian values, isn't it.

 

Now, christans don't want everyone to fry in hell because we love them and don't want to see that happen to them. So while, yes, they did disrespect other religions in the proccess of making everything christan, they didn't do it out of hate and tyranny.

That is absolutely pathetic as an excuse. Historically, the christian church has been one of the biggest, longest-running moneymaking exercises of all time. Christianity is riddled with corruption and self-service, and you have the gall to generalise and say that "christians" haven't done what they've done to further their tyranny over the poor and ill-educated? Pfah.

 

And yes, IS, comments like "Jehoover's the only omnipotent figure in Christian mythology as far as one is aware." are offensive to me.

You see Ig, you can't even see when someone's defending your faith. That was my quote, from my post in which I sought to explain the fact that in christianity, Satan isn't the equal of God. And you turn around and "get offended" because I (intentionally) didn't spell Jehova properly. Truly awful behaviour on your part.

 

I think it's important that you realise that almost all the people who diss christianity on these boards... respect TRUE christian values, the true teachings of christ. Like love thy neighbor, let he who is without sin cast the first stone, etc. What we do NOT like, is your CHURCH, the self-interested and corrupt human institution that has been living off of these teachings and corrupting them like a parasite killing its host, for centuries.

[El Sitherino]

Originally posted by IG-64

too easily offended? So I can just let my belifs be passed off as mythology, but other people can get all pissy about the mention of the word God in schools and take out christmas carols and the ten commandments?

... -_-. those people suck at life. Try not to be like them kthx. who cares what others say IG, if you believe it fine. It's not like anyone is trying to shove disbelief down your throat. Don't get so hung over by trivial things.

 

Originally posted by Spider AL

Well in purely Christian terms, he doesn't. God's a pro, he knows all. Everything that happens is his will, full stop. So even those who dislike him, Satan for instance, are really merely pawns on his chessboard. We may have free will, but however we use it we'll end up conforming to God's infinite plan anyway.

Ah, gotcha. thanks ^^

[El Sitherino]

Originally posted by Spider AL

I think it's important that you realise that almost all the people who diss christianity on these boards... respect TRUE christian values, the true teachings of christ. Like love thy neighbor, let he who is without sin cast the first stone, etc. What we do NOT like, is your CHURCH, the self-interested and corrupt human institution that has been living off of these teachings and corrupting them like a parasite killing its host, for centuries.

exactly. When we speak of christianity in general we speak of the majority, aka the church. Those who tarnish the image of christianity and christs message. Christ didn't want laws outlawing abortion or gays, he just wanted people to be happy, but still free of sin, by their own will. NOT by force. the christian majority takes christ's good points, throws them out only when they do something bad now. It's all "god hates fags, god hates sodomites" "but remember, jesus saves, so don't hate us" it's ridiculous. Follow christ's teachings, not the churches Bull****.