{WIP}TSL Ultimate Lightsaber project

[RedHawke]

Originally posted by MudRat_02

Hmm yes the screenies are good, do we know what the ETA is? 'scuse if someone has already released it but there is too many threads in this post to read em all...

Sorry MudRat_02 but, "there is too many threads in this post to read em all" is a really poor excuse... especially with T7nowhere's post 2 up from yours answering the release question... hence the reason for MattColejk's post.

Originally posted by MudRat_02

I appologise, i only just found this post about the mod a few days ago and wasnt keen to read over 300 threads to see if there was an ETA.

This is a forum, and as such it would have been prudent for you to at least read the posts on the last page before posting anything...

Originally posted by MudRat_02

No the question wasnt aimed at the modding team, it was aimed at people that have been following the post (like matt for instance, who is now short of a fuse all over a question by a newbie), and the question WAS answered which prompts me to ask, "whats with the big reaction? Is there really a need for the modding team to answer an already answered question?", the readers of the post seemed happy to answer ETA questions, so is it really an issue?

Yes, when you make it into an issue, like you are doing right now.

Originally posted by MudRat_02

I appologise to anyone offended by my innocent question but the fact of the matter is simply this: Threaten all you want, but there WILL be new people to the thread that will come in and ask just that. Why? Because of the reasons outlined.

What reasons? You can't read 2 small posts above yours, that is the valid reason you are using to throw a literary tantrum like this?

 

And who is threatening anything?

Originally posted by MudRat_02

Yes its annoying how everything doesnt work JUST the way you want it mattcolejk,

I think you seriously need to calm down a little yourself MudRat_02... MattColejk, in his own colorful way, was just pointing out that your question had been answered before... and I reiterate that your answer was 2 posts above yours.

Originally posted by MudRat_02

but the other good thing about forums over rl is you dont have to listen - you just dont read the thread.

You haven't read this thread at all... and because of that you can get an answer like Matt's. That whole reading tha last page of the thread before posting thing I said earlier would have helped to avoid this alltogether.

 

Sorry if this post offends you MudRat_02, but you really need a little thicker skin, and try not to take what others post so seriously... with the written word it is hard to translate the exact intentions of the poster, and another reason why there are smily's.

 

Now, if our slightly off-topic posts don't dissappear via some special Moderator powers, let's return everyone to the regularly scheduled ULP thread... (Back On Topic)

[samuel]

I see what you are saying Red, but i DID read T7's post, and my question was ETA, T7 said a week after finish, when i said ETA - i didnt expect a exact date hence the E standing for Estimated. Hey, if you said in a few weeks time I woulda been happy. A week after its done could be in a year's time, or in ten.

[samuel]

And the threat im referring to, is the one 2 threads above yours, which you would know about if YOU had read it. And its not my intention to throw a 'tantrum', but as you put it - its hard to express intent though a thread.

[General Kenobi]

Well the one and only weapons master Mav said just what I was gonna so I'm just quoting him...so....yeah what he said.

 

@svosh Like I said you should be workin' for them I agree these are beautful. I only pray that the hilts look as good in game. I remember with Jedi Academy that the hilts kept their detail in game. TSL has an issue with that I think & that should have been their biggest priority.

@T7 You put some serious work in on this and it shows through with the quality evident in the screenshots you guys are sendin' out. You and the other guys/gals are great for doing this.

 

@ALL OTHERS who insist in turning this thread into a blog session on why things aren't comeing out when they want and wanting a def. release date. I am not proficent in many of the skills required to complete such a MASSIVE mod BUT I am a modder and therefore know why it takes a bit to get this out.

 

All of the guys/gals have their own lives, careers and things to do outside of the forums. THEY are ALL working hard on this as the screenies show. If you have a question for one rather than making them mad at repeat questions (AKA release date) and the like just simply PM them. You'd be surprised how quickly and nice they are when they get free enough to answer.

 

We all want the mod to be completed BUT like I've just said above it takes time. Just thank them for taking the time to make this for us to download and for all to use and lay off the release date. If you like the project there are tons of posts in this thread that will tell you EVERYTHING you want to know.

 

Want to know some of the "extras" that are being included, masks etc.? One thought would be NOT to insult the makers by asking them what it is. especially since most all of the "extra" items are right there in screenshots for all to see. If they take the time in posting all of the info we need; we should at least read and look at the posts.

 

Once again PLEASE be respectful of "the makers that be" on this wonderful mod and give them TIME. T7 said it best in one of his posts I read on this "It will take as long as it takes." That says it all

[Juha Avery]

My opinion:

 

I believe everything is allready been said.

People have asked too many times when and its been aswered too many times by give them time, what i believe now is that no one should write here except the modellers if they have any updates cause i think all the ooo ahhh WAU when? when its done, things have allready been said.

 

Dont you guys agree?

[Emperor Devon]

Originally posted by ChAiNz.2da

Otherwise, for every one of those I see, I'm going to withhold the USM upcrystals.2da from T7 for a 24 hour period (up to 234 lines now!) w00t!

 

*Declares ChAiNz the professed forum tyrant*

 

THAT motivated me to stop asking questions....

[RevanA4]

since everyone is complaining STOP just let them do the mod and when it ready its ready and to qoute myself it will be worth the wait:D

 

and after making and testing a mod of my own I can apreciate the time they are take to make everything perfict

 

note: I'm a programmer not a lit major so ignore spelling errors

 

@USM team plz take your time It is going to be worth the wait cuz there doesn't need any more bugs add to the game

 

@everyone who is complaining just STOP and let them work

 

@Chainz.2da you just gained darkside points

 

note: I agree with redhalke

[ChAiNz.2da]

Originally posted by MudRat_02

And the threat im referring to, is the one 2 threads above yours, which you would know about if YOU had read it. And its not my intention to throw a 'tantrum', but as you put it - its hard to express intent though a thread.

I think I can relate to ya' on that one man..

 

BTW, if it seemed I was targeting you, then I wholly apologize. It was aimed in general because over half of this thread is "is it ready yet?" posts and after awhile (having been answered the same way each time it's been asked) it gets really tiring on us and the Holowan community as a whole...

 

I think my 'threat' may have been mis-interpreted as well... but the smiling devil and "w00t!" followed should've made myself clear that I have no intention of dragging the USM longer than necessary hehehe.. (I want to play it too darn it )

 

So.. friends? To offer as a Peace Treaty and as a 'loose' answer to your's and everyone's question... In a matter of a few weeks if everything keeps going smoothly...

 

Everyone here has been so supportive in the last few days, especially with T7's script questions and my recent Naming Functions fiasco, we're really getting pumped on the project! Thank you everyone! I'll up my medication dosage so that I stop throwing tantrums (which I think I'm more guilty than anyone.. hehehe)...

 

But I would ask from here on out (to everyone) to keep the "when?" posts to a minimum... and apologies to all that may have been offended or hurt...

 

Do I still get to keep my DS points? hehehe....

[Emperor Devon]

Originally posted by ChAiNz.2da

In a matter of a few weeks if everything keeps going smoothly...

 

Yay!

 

Originally posted by ChAiNz.2da

Do I still get to keep my DS points? hehehe....

 

No, you don't. You apologized.

[RevanA4]

Chainz.2da gains lightside points:D

[samuel]

*ChAiNz.tda*

 

darkside points gained

influence gained: MudRat_02

[KillerWave]

Now that I got my reskined disciple head as my personal pc , I am playing through tsl again.

As I believe some mods would only activate if you hadn’t be to certain areas of the game, or done some things yet, should I wait for this mod to get finished, as it would change the initial game appearances (Sion’s saber), or could I continue from…lets say…after leaving Telos, and still experience the full mod?

[T7nowhere]

If your just leaving Telos you would only miss out on Kreia Getting her saber.

 

When the mod is released I will recomend a new game but its not vital, Nothing will break if you install it in the middle of a current game, But you will miss out on a few Saber finding opportunities.

 

if you do install in the middle you will still be able to get Bao-Dur to build some lightsabers for you. Provided you have 900 credits + a standard lightsaber hilt( ugly game hilt ) + one of our USM lightsaber crystals.

[KillerWave]

Then I will definitively wait for it before continuing a new game!

Just my opinion, but it wouldn’t be better to need to have 300 parts or something to build a new saber instead of needing money?

 

Btw, now I will have a real reason to kill Darth Nihilus! Not for blah,blah,blah...saving inocents on Telos!...but for getting his cool lightsaber

[T7nowhere]

Originally posted by KillerWave

Then I will definitively wait for it before continuing a new game!

Just my opinion, but it wouldn’t be better to need to have 300 parts or something to build a new saber instead of needing money?

 

Well you don't really get that many "Parts" in the game and I can't use components, I tried but it wouldn't work. SO I settled on 900 credits and an old hilt (it can only be an old hilt so you will want to save them and not break them down. In my game I had more credits than I needed, stores don't really sell anything worth buying so I figure most people would have an abundance of credits, but the standard hilts are not easy to come by so that would be the only limiting factor.

[KillerWave]

Originally posted by T7nowhere

In my game I had more credits than I needed, stores don't really sell anything worth buying so I figure most people would have an abundance of credits, but the standard hilts are not easy to come by so that would be the only limiting factor.

 

Now that you mention it...indeed I only remember buying crystals from the scavengers on dantooine and a couple of hk parts from the merchants.

[RedHawke]

Originally posted by MudRat_02

And the threat im referring to, is the one 2 threads above yours, which you would know about if YOU had read it. And its not my intention to throw a 'tantrum', but as you put it - its hard to express intent though a thread.

MudRat, it is obvious you didn't understand a thing I said...

Originally posted by Juha Avery

Cut it out please, forgiven and forgotten.

I'll have to disagree Juha! This post from MudRat_02 was nothing but argumentative! And he has yet to apologize for it! How can it be "forgiven and forgotten" as you put it, without that?

[Juha Avery]

Originally posted by RedHawke

MudRat, it is obvious you didn't understand a thing I said...

 

Cut it out please, forgiven and forgotten.

[FunSolo]

to take the thread away to get back on topic.

 

are u changin the whole idea of lightsabers ingame, like buy and/or create sabers(old/used, standard, good, perfect sabers with more featpoints /or depending on found parts ingame/ more precision) 'plus' adding each jedis/siths saber to the npcs? or 'just' (word sounds wrong cause this mod will change alot) change the sabers of the jedis/sith to the new appereance?

cause the workbench mods came to mind while readin this whole stuff.

[T7nowhere]

Originally posted by FunSolo

to take the thread away to get back on topic.

 

are u changin the whole idea of lightsabers ingame, like buy and/or create sabers(old/used, standard, good, perfect sabers with more featpoints /or depending on found parts ingame/ more precision) 'plus' adding each jedis/siths saber to the npcs? or 'just' (word sounds wrong cause this mod will change alot) change the sabers of the jedis/sith to the new appereance?

cause the workbench mods came to mind while readin this whole stuff.

 

We are not changing the whole idea of sabers. There will be only one instance where you will be able to obtain a lightsaber before you build your first. I added the option to have Bao build more so that players will have an option of building another saber after the LightSaber quest. Also it will allow those that are in mid game the option of upgradeing thier Old lightsaber for a new one.

 

The generic Darkjedi will still use a standard sabers, The Masters and Sith lords will have new sabers.

The only instance where I placed unique sabers on ordinary looking Darkjedi Masters was on the 3 that you fight at the end of Nadds Tomb on Dxun

I figured since one of them spoke he deserved his own saber.

 

Lightsabers will still be pretty much as they are except they will look better and the crystals will not be freely interchangable as they are now.

[Emperor Devon]

Horrible standard sabers... Can't wait for this mod!

[FunSolo]

Originally posted by T7nowhere

We are not changing the whole idea of sabers. There will be only one instance where you will be able to obtain a lightsaber before you build your first. I added the option to have Bao build more so that players will have an option of building another saber after the LightSaber quest. Also it will allow those that are in mid game the option of upgradeing thier Old lightsaber for a new one.

 

The generic Darkjedi will still use a standard sabers, The Masters and Sith lords will have new sabers.

The only instance where I placed unique sabers on ordinary looking Darkjedi Masters was on the 3 that you fight at the end of Nadds Tomb on Dxun

I figured since one of them spoke he deserved his own saber.

 

Lightsabers will still be pretty much as they are except they will look better and the crystals will not be freely interchangable as they are now.

 

good idea with bao buildin more than one saber *thumbs up*

what do u mean with upgrade the old to a new one? another thing bao dur will do then? or workbench? and how many options in design?(or feats?, design would be good for me )

and what do u mean with 'not so interchangable? i could understand it if u say 'no hint on that' but im gettin more n more curious in here

[T7nowhere]

Originally posted by FunSolo

what do u mean with upgrade the old to a new one? another thing bao dur will do then? or workbench?

 

What I meant was that as soon as you find a USM lightsaber crystal and have one of the craptastic game sabers, you will have the option to build a new lightsaber when you talk to Bao.

 

 

Originally posted by FunSolo

and how many options in design?(or feats?, design would be good for me )

 

I'm not sure what you mean.

 

Originally posted by FunSolo

and what do u mean with 'not so interchangable? i could understand it if u say 'no hint on that' but im gettin more n more curious in here

 

Well the way the game works is that for every color crystal there are 3 models assigned to that crystal (short, Long, Double).

 

Now what we have to do is create 5 crystals for every model (Current count 37) But we are not making 3 types of saber models for each new crystal, that would take( well lets just say KotOR 3 would be out before we would finnish) so each sabers crystal will be unique and useable only in that type of model.

[ID129]

Sorry for a stupid question but will this also be compatible with Prime's Movie Jedi Robes and Armours?

[ChAiNz.2da]

Originally posted by ID129

will this also be compatible with Prime's Movie Jedi Robes and Armours?

at the moment, no the movie robes uses a baseitems.2da line that the USM uses...

 

HOWEVER, the fix is relatively easy.. it will just require a baseitems.2da line fix and some .uti edits...

 

When I get a little time (or if anyone else would like to have a go at it)... I can post instructions on what you'll need to do...

 

don't worry, I'll be wanting to use those robes with the USM as well... so instructions will be posted eventually (when I wind up having to do it for my games)