AlphaRob Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 This is, without even the shyest of a doubt, a joke. A good one too, you had me going. Even the SWKights website had it in their news, and every single forum here has it in the news, so what can I say? Nice one. I hope they reopen soon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 No, as stated above, it's not a joke. This is serious. I know too well this type of letter and we certainly wouldn't joke about this kind of thing. I had a joke mod planned for SWK.com today but I didn't post it because of this crappy news. I am currently reviewing the list of people involved and their mods. I'll be discussing it with Rhett later on today so we can decide of the proper course of action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaRob Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I understand where you're coming from, but the point is this is just all too perfect. Let's look at the facts shall we? 1. April Fools Day morning from 1AM to 2AM or around that hour, modifications are active and even moderators are freely discussing in that forum. 2. April Fools Day Morning...later: SWKnights seemingly recieves a letter of complaint on APRIL FOOLS DAY saying to close down the mods forum. 3. Almost everyone BUT STAFF are saying it's a joke. If it really is a joke on the part of SW Knights, all staff would be in on it and weould probably be TOLD to tell the members its a joke. With those three facts, it's hard to bieleve this. If you're not joking, then whoever sent the letter probably is joking. It's just all too perfect. Now can you really tell me and the members of this forum, with your hand on a stack of the Trilogy on DVD box sets, that this is not a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Originally posted by AlphaRob Now can you really tell me and the members of this forum, with your hand on a stack of the Trilogy on DVD box sets, that this is not a joke? I don't have the Trilogy DVD set with me right now, but if I tell you it's not a joke with my hand on Title 17 of the United States Code, Chapter 1 "Subject Matter and Scope of Copyright" and Chapter 5 "Copyright Infringement and Remedies" does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaRob Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Okay, now assuming this is true, you realise this is a loose/loose situation for you. If this is a joke, you realise you've made a large amount of the community angry, and they will be even more angry if this is a joke. If this is not a joke, then you've still made tons of members angry, lost customers for LucasArts (I know I won't be buying any more material from LA), and since 80-90% of your members even joined just because of the Holowan section, you loose a lot of activity. If I were you, and if this was a joke, I would just fess up now before you upset even more members. If this really isn't a joke, you won't be seeing me or many other members for a loooong time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Has anyone heard anything from Sergio at PCGM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkkender Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I checked pcgamemods and there does not seem to be anything there. I have also been checking some of the other sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazin Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 This is too convienent to be anything but a joke, But Darth333 has never lied to me, so if she says it isnt, then it aint. And that sucks. But not modding wont stop me from coming here and chatting it up with you all. I hope this is just a scare tactic so we'll stop. Hopefully they wont do anything beyond that. I just find it hard to believe LA can be so stupid. Here they have a large group of people practically dedicated to their work, Fans for life... and they do this? And they do this just before releasing a movie? Talk about bad PR. This could get really ugly for LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiko Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 This freekin sucks! Just when I met a good friend here, it closes down, this is plain stupid. Hopefuly some of you will think about getting AIM, so we can chat in the future, if you do my screename is smalls2693/ or LordSmallz1. I am going to miss many here, All the moderators, Gsccc Chainz Darkkender etc. I am usually online, so hope to see you in the future. Now, i am going to cry. :ball: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 God I love being the voice of dissention... If this is an April Fool's Day joke, kudos to its architects. Brilliantly done! If this is not an April Fool's Day joke, then let's try to have some perspective. While I certainly feel for those that have devoted so much of their blood, sweat, and tears to creating the wonderful tools that have allowed us to persue this hobby, I think that it's reasonable to assume that LA will not persecute with the full extent of the law. Based on the information that has been provided to us, it looks like they just want us to stop. We've known all along that modding, while tolerated (to whatever degree), is not sanctioned and that LA could "pull the plug" at any time. We all agreed to the EULA when we installed the game and we all willingly violated when we made the choice to mod. If LA has decided that enough is enough, that is their right and we have to take responsibility for our actions by honoring their request. Does this suck? Yes. Am I bummed? You'd better believe it. Am I in hot water if this is for real? I'm betting on it. But in case you haven't noticed there are wars going on, people dying from preventable disease because they can't afford medicine, etc, etc. Is this really worth losing your cool? (Fred Tetra, Tk102, & cchargin excluded) *steps off soapbox, puts on fireproof underwear, and prepares to be flamed* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaRob Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 All good points Achilles, however that still does not explain why LucasArts allows and ENCOURAGES modding for other games, such as JA, but now decided to pull the plug on modding for KoToR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 No one that posts on these boards is going to be able to answer that for you (assuming that this is legitimate). LA's rationale is unknown to us and is likely to remain that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 @AlphaRob You could have asked that same question the very day KotOR was released and Bioware forbade the discussions of modding. I don't know, I'm still thinking KSE has got to be a legitimate utility regardless. I mean Bioware published the file formats so it's not like reverse-engineering or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaRob Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 It doesn't look like something that a group of attorneys would write, simply in the format and writing style it was written in. Also, it seems fishy that after about 3 years of supporting and allowing modifications LA would close them down on APRIL FOOLS DAY of all days. I'm sorry, but this is about as obvious of a joke as you can get. Still, my compliments to the person who had this idea. Bravo, a genius gag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Com Raven Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 There were in fact previous issues with mods and LucasArts properties, though I can't remember details (sorry, I am not very creative ). However, after consultations with our resident lawyer (Darth333), we should be making an announcement regarding this soon. Do however keep in mind that we are, popular as we might be, a small fansite and certainly don't have the means for a big legal fight like HardOCP had against Infinium Labs after their Cease&Desist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 More information regarding this here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaRob Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Misa was teh rightsa, okeyday? </jar-jar> Like I said, well thought out. Good trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Yeah you and Xcom get the prize for Most Cynical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth333 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Originally posted by Drazin This is too convienent to be anything but a joke, But Darth333 has never lied to me, so if she says it isnt, then it aint. Sorry Drazin... but it was April 1st... couldn't resist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Don't take this the wrong way but you guys suck. You had me completely fooled. I swear I'll get you back one day. ALL OF YOU!! AHAHAHAHAHAHA. You honestly had everything covered, all of the mods removed their mod links, closed the site, I mean wow, can't you people just go to a movie?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaRob Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Originally posted by tk102 Yeah you and Xcom get the prize for Most Cynical. Hazza!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lion54 Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I think Boba Rhett and his conspirtors just wanted people to look at the other forums. ( no offense to the other forums.) GREAT JOKE!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted April 1, 2005 Author Share Posted April 1, 2005 Guhehehehehe. This was great. I just hope that LucasArts doesn't pay attention to any of the emails they got over this and have some sort of realization along the lines of, "Hey....yeah... why ARE they getting away with this?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lion54 Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Originally posted by Darkkender I checked pcgamemods and there does not seem to be anything there. I have also been checking some of the other sites. OH, forgot to say this. I knew it was a joke because pcgamemods never went down or even mentioned this. Still, great joke! But I think you might have scared some people off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaRob Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Still Rhett, when I and my Sith troopers rule the world, you will be gifted with a quick and painless death...unlike the cat....hehe...yes the cat....<_< Good joke, whose idea whas it, your's Rhett I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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