RpTheHotrod Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Media, I never said the mod-makers were successful at taking care of the game. It really got bad...and JKA is on life support now. JA+ turned away from the admin abuse...but another mod showing up continuing the admin abuse isn't good. The mod community made a lot of bad decisions...which is why I joined JA+. JA+ is the #1 mod, and I wanted to at least try to get it off it's current path and get it on the right track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensiform Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 First off, I think red slushie is a stupid mod that offers all kinds of absurd game altering tweaks. and the guys who made it (stubert and what not) rank as some of the worst players to ever play this series. moving on.... "and btw...this game is no longer funded or patched. Because of this, it is the mod makers' responibility to be the caretakers of the game" No it isn't. Their attempt to add to the game has made it basically unplayable. The pub server scene in jk2 is flat out laughable. "You must be cautious...for what we mod-makers create can very well make or break what is left of JKA." It's already broken, and it can't be fixed, thanks to the same people you are giving credit to. Accept that you dont' know what you're talking about. These mod makers have made the game unplayable as anything other than a quasi-RPG. Go to one of those servers sometime and try to approach it like a real ffa. With jetpacks and grapple hooks, it's impossible to kill anyone who doesn't want to be killed. That's not game balance, and that's not responsible modding. The fact is this: you guys don't really want to play an FPS, you want to emerse yourselves in the star wars universe and pretend to be dooku without truly skilled gamers comming in and owning you.... Just another reason JK2 is still clearly the better game. There really is much less of this bull**** in jk2, the NF servers still enforce "no laming", but the s/o FF servers and full weapon servers are, for the most part, no rules ffa's. never post this crap in a thread again, very unpolite. name the options that are absurd, and btw we are not some of the worst players in this series. we are members of refresh one of the largest jka communities non-main (here, dev chans). most of the jka players there arent what you would consider 'the worst players'. uhm where do you get RPG out of a FPS game? i dislike all rpg/mmorpgs so why would i add rpg features? and how are those features listed above making the game unplayable? its all optional and customizable based on what the admin likes. and yet you say we want to emerse ourselves into the star wars universe and be dooku? how is that? there is nothing that resembles this to be like an RPG mod. Red Slushie doesn't encourage any type of gametype or limits of force/weapons. the only thing you cannot play with red slushie is siege, it simply doesnt work. the ideas of "laming" are quite stupid anyway. i mean it spreads through the whole game when its really only rules/courtesy for honor games. once again like i said at the beginning of my reply... this is an announcement thread not a "bit__ at this mod thread" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubert Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 First off, I think red slushie is a stupid mod that offers all kinds of absurd game altering tweaks. and the guys who made it (stubert and what not) rank as some of the worst players to ever play this series. moving on.... "and btw...this game is no longer funded or patched. Because of this, it is the mod makers' responibility to be the caretakers of the game" No it isn't. Their attempt to add to the game has made it basically unplayable. The pub server scene in jk2 is flat out laughable. "You must be cautious...for what we mod-makers create can very well make or break what is left of JKA." It's already broken, and it can't be fixed, thanks to the same people you are giving credit to. Accept that you dont' know what you're talking about. These mod makers have made the game unplayable as anything other than a quasi-RPG. Go to one of those servers sometime and try to approach it like a real ffa. With jetpacks and grapple hooks, it's impossible to kill anyone who doesn't want to be killed. That's not game balance, and that's not responsible modding. The fact is this: you guys don't really want to play an FPS, you want to emerse yourselves in the star wars universe and pretend to be dooku without truly skilled gamers comming in and owning you.... Just another reason JK2 is still clearly the better game. There really is much less of this bull**** in jk2, the NF servers still enforce "no laming", but the s/o FF servers and full weapon servers are, for the most part, no rules ffa's. you are CLEARLY mediablitz and therefore have no say in anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Mediablitz has been taken care of, please return to the original topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensiform Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 slap/slay/trip taken out of jk2++ anything in shrubbot stays and thats final. its per admin based. no more whining or complaining about shrub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Well that's kinda rude. Why else would you post here if not to get opinions and feedback on things? Don't think you're being a bit harsh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensiform Posted August 18, 2005 Author Share Posted August 18, 2005 uhm no, he's whined about it for the last 4-5 days and its getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 The fact that you can count the number of servers running Red Slushie on one hand means any theoretical abuse that happens (if it happens) is nothing compared to the abuse that has occured and continues to occur on hundreds of JA+ servers. Yup, and as for Wild Jedi, I'm the only person Dave abuses with admin commands, so the rest of you don't need to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaderJM Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I can vouch for mono on that. I don't agree with the admin commands either, simply because that should be the difference between the competitive community, and those...others. That we don't feel the need to demonstrate a false sense of superiority through use of a mod. One question however, wheres the client side download? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensiform Posted August 18, 2005 Author Share Posted August 18, 2005 its only an announcement not out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Originally Posted by Amidala from Chop Shop The fact that you can count the number of servers running Red Slushie on one hand means any theoretical abuse that happens (if it happens) is nothing compared to the abuse that has occured and continues to occur on hundreds of JA+ servers. The point is...if RS becomes popular...it's going to be just like how JA+ used to be....admin abuse city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensiform Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 Seeing as the rs admin no longer has slap/slay/trip... heres an update: rs_adminrights values: 1 = Listips 2 = Add Client as Admin 4 = Remove Client from Admin 8 = Origin 16 = Mute / Unmute 32 = Freeze / Thaw 64 = Rename / Ren 128 = CenterPrint Text (cp) 256 = Print MOTD 512 = Admin Chat 1024 = Kick 2048 = Kickban / Remban 4096 = Forceteam 8192 = Status 16384 = NPC 32768 = Pause/Unpause (now works properly also; time does not count down when paused) 65536 = Noob (renames padawan's to "I'm a noob!") 131072 = Spec 999 ping'ed clients 262143 = All of the above also: We are happy to announce that the thermal detonators are now working properly after adding some unlagged code in G_RunFrame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 So those abusive commands were removed? Bravo sir! The competative gamers of the world will thank you. Though that "God" command doesn't sound too good. Making the admin invincible I assume? That could be used to cheat, right...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensiform Posted August 19, 2005 Author Share Posted August 19, 2005 gone also u havent refreshed was working on removing it after i originally posted. all those cmds also have auto-complete when you have the client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Beat me to it, I'm happy to say. Btw, can you explain how "freeze/thaw" works again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 Excellent, then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted August 20, 2005 Share Posted August 20, 2005 From what I've experienced, Freeze just makes the character run in place, and therefore unable to move anywhere. At the same time, that play doesn't take damage, is unaffected by the force, and can't be moved by explosions and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathain Valtiel Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 On the other hand they can't score either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 That's true as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 Ah so it could be used on somebody who's about to kill you, or somebody who's about to capture the flag or complete an objective... (or somebody in mid jump over a pit!) Heck, in CTF it could be used to hold up the game indefinately! (since the frozen person couldn't score, return or be killed)... ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Geezas...here we go again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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