MdKnightR Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I'm probably gonna have a party this weekend or next weekend with some friends and watch episodes 1-6. I've watched RotS twice already XD Sweet idea! After watching ROTS at the theatre the first time, I had to go home and watch ANH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkle Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Sweet idea! After watching ROTS at the theatre the first time, I had to go home and watch ANH. I did the same thing, and damn if the lightsaber duel in ANH didn't disappoint the hell out of me after RotS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Weird, RoTS made everything in ANH more powerful for me, especially the Death Star duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Weird, RoTS made everything in ANH more powerful for me, especially the Death Star duel.Yeah, it did. We knew who Vader was under his suit. Sure, he was "more machine now than man" but we still know more about who he really is and his turn to evil. And after seeing Obi-Wan and vader fight in RotS, it did make the Death Star fight mean much more in ANH. But I can see where you're coming from spinkle, it looks lame compared to RotS duel, but it means so much more now we have seen them fight when they were younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinkle Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 Yeah, it did. We knew who Vader was under his suit. which, when i initially saw ANH in 1977 (at 2yo), was exactly what i wanted to know, and was exactly why RotS was the movie I'd been waiting for since that moment. for me the circle really was complete when i walked out of the theater the first time in May. But I can see where you're coming from spinkle, it looks lame compared to RotS duel, but it means so much more now we have seen them fight when they were younger. I'll agree with you and sithy that the *moment* is/was more intense because of all that I knew post-RotS...but the duel itself is incredibly underwhelming given the acrobatic displays of Eps I,II and III. (or even compared to Luke and Vader's duels in ESB and RotJ) As an aside--The Battle of Yavin was also...rendered obsolete in a way, if that makes sense, given the intensity and grandiosity of the RotS opening scene. (granted, i realize there are almost 30 intervening years between the two films and special effects processes are vastly different now [for better or worse], making it much easier to create a full-scale space battle that was simply impossible in 1977, but still--there are only like 9 tie fighters on the Death Star and no Star Destroyers around? and this difference in special effects complexity also accounts to at least some degree for the "lameness" of ANH's duel) I guess I'm trying to express a...desensitization? to an extremely large degree *the story* encompassed by the OT and prefaced by the prequels has always been more interesting to me than any of the movies themselves, transcending bad dialogue, questionable acting, all the negativity that can be slung their way...and maybe now i've kind of been spoiled, and I'm just not nearly as wowed by the effects in ANH. (please don't let this seem like support for the Special Edition, because i think they're largely a travesty) hope this made sense. edit: changed OT to ANH at the conclusion. the more i think about it, i have few if any problems with ESB or RotJ. It's ANH that suffered the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I've written up a review for the deleted scenes on the Bonus DVD. It can be read over at Insane Entertainment. Beware though, the I basically give an overview of the scenes so it is spoiler-iffic in terms of the deleted scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediKnight707 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I liked the prequel movies a little more (though RotJ is my favorite of all time) simply because it wasn't as lovey dovey and dramatic like the original's were. In the prequels, it was take out that lightsaber first then talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiEND_138 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 >go to language selection >select the THX logo (on the wall) >press 1138 on your dvd remote Thank You!!! I've spent the last 20 minutes trying to figure this out.. *Rushes off to watch* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediKnight707 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I was watching the Palpatine v. Windu fight, and I heard Windu say "I have defeated you my master..." or something along those lines. I must be confused, because I always thoght that Anakin was Darth Vader Why would Windu say "my master"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 ^^ He says "My Lord" mockingly after he has defeated him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdKnightR Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I, too, was disappointed by the stiff battle between Ben and Vader in ANH after seeing ROTS. Of course, I was disappointed that it wasn't "made better" in the terms of lightsaber appearance when they did the Trilogy Special Edition. The battle, as stale as it is, would have been a lot better if they had tweaked the appearance of the blades so that they wouldn't bend on impact and you couldn't see the pole inside the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I, too, was disappointed by the stiff battle between Ben and Vader in ANH after seeing ROTS. I'm quite the opposite about it, it looks correct. Think about it Obi-Wan is older, he is facing Vader he knows the only way for Luke to escape is to fight a delaying action to keep Vaders attention on him and not allow him to detect his son. A delaying action sword/saber fight would be the type of slow tight moves that we see Obi-Wan using in ANH. He fought defensively, leaving no openings because he didn't ever fully attack. This also lends credence to Vaders remark "Your powers are weak, old man!" because when they last met and dueled Obi-Wan was out to do some damage, now because he changed his style Vader saw it as weakness, but Obi-Wan could have held Vader off indefinately using the defensive style he was. Thus Obi-Wan bought Luke and company time to escape the Death Star, he also kept Vader from sensing Luke, and he could lead Luke to Yoda who would finish his training. At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediKnight707 Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 We all know that Ben would have kicked Vader's @$$ if he kept it going, but NOOOO he had to "give into the force". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted November 5, 2005 Share Posted November 5, 2005 ^^^^ well, i think thats really more up for debate than anything. i think that by the time of ANH, Vader was truely at the pinnicle of his capabilities as a Jedi, and considering that Vader/Anakin is supposed to be the most powerful Jedi of all time, i think that Vader could have defeated Obi-wan if they were truely fighting to the death. but since Obi-wan gave in, i guess we'll never truely know. and since this isn't the thread to do it in, don't try to respond to my little rant. start a new one if you want to get a 'healthy' debate going on that topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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