Guest DarthMaulUK Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 It was confirmed in our private chat lobby that the B-Wing will not make it into Empire At War. The question wasn't asked/answered because it was a simple 'no'. The Legacy at war mod team have made their very own creations and are looking impressive. Whats your views on this decision not to have a B-Wing? Legacy At War DMUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Another indication that EaW will be half-baked, as I have predicted. The tech line and whatnot should never have stopped at ANH, but regardless, we are getting some absolutely awful ship designs plus a lot of EU stuff, yet an instantly recognisable film unit doesn't make the cut. Not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernaut1985 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I'm going to try and fix most of this injustice. B-Wings for all...and maybe more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamefreak Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I think its really dumb but thankfuly theres some nice mods out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I didn't see that part in the chat transcript. I thought he said that a few things that appeared in the later movies would also appear in the game, just in the higher echelons of tech. I guess maybe A=wings or something. Dunno. I don't mind too much. I never thought a ton of the B-wing. It was always a little weird. Not saying I don't like the B-wing, it's just my least favorite of the rebel and imperial fighters/bombers, so I'll live. Not exactly a factual rational, but it works. heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I didn't see that part in the chat transcript. You weren't in the same chat, that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn2008 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I don't mind the B-Wing absense too much. What really gets me is the absence of the TIE Interceptor. The rebels will get it's couterpart, the A-Wing, which was specifically designed to out run the Interceptor. And yet, there is no Interceptor to out run. Not giving the Rebels a B-Wing is a good idea to me, because so far it seems the Rebels will have more of a star fighter advantage already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxDude Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I don't mind the B-Wing absense too much. What really gets me is the absence of the TIE Interceptor. The rebels will get it's couterpart, the A-Wing, which was specifically designed to out run the Interceptor. And yet, there is no Interceptor to out run. Not giving the Rebels a B-Wing is a good idea to me, because so far it seems the Rebels will have more of a star fighter advantage already. The B/W was developed by Ackbar as a FRG killer. The FRG is on the side of the Rebellion in this game so there is no need for the B/W. But I still want it and the T/I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthujun Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 What really gets me is the absence of the TIE Interceptor. see http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=155255 isn't that a interceptor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcorn2008 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 see http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=155255 isn't that a interceptor? No, that is a TIE Advanced x1 (i believe x1). You see it in A New Hope, it is Darth Vader's personalized TIE Fighter. He uses it in the trench run part of episode IV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I guess I'm not too bummed out that it isn't included, but I think it's kind of silly that they aren't. I wouldn't think it would be that much more work to include one more ship... Still, it won't ruin the game for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithxace Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 its not the extra work, its all about money. Their plan is to make an expansion pack that continues where this game left off prob til the battle of endor. Now they wanna be able to say we got the b-wing and SSD in it! WHAT A FEATURE! pretty much there preserving material for the future, for a few more dolla dolla bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 its not the extra work, its all about money. Their plan is to make an expansion pack that continues where this game left off prob til the battle of endor. Now they wanna be able to say we got the b-wing and SSD in it! WHAT A FEATURE! pretty much there preserving material for the future, for a few more dolla dolla bills I see. I guess this is a good plan financially for them, since no doubt an expansion would sell like crazy assuming this game will be the hit it is expected to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 The B/W was developed by Ackbar as a FRG killer. The FRG is on the side of the Rebellion in this game so there is no need for the B/W. But I still want it and the T/I. There are other frigates in Star Wars too to take out, and so it will be in EaW. That is a weak argument really for not having it in. The B-Wing was designed to be an anti-capital ship bomber actually, not specifically to take out just one type of ship, like the Nebulon-B Frigate as you suggest. The only good argument for not including it, is that the techtree only goes up to ANH, which effectivelly excludes the B-Wing from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 its not the extra work, its all about money. Their plan is to make an expansion pack that continues where this game left off prob til the battle of endor. Now they wanna be able to say we got the b-wing and SSD in it! WHAT A FEATURE! pretty much there preserving material for the future, for a few more dolla dolla bills *blinks* You're so right! heh. I didn't even think of that bit. Add in a few more units and make storied campaigns go to the end of ROTJ, add some moola to Lucas' pockets. I love it when a plan comes together. You weren't in the same chat, that's why. lol, true enough. true enough. Hey this is a really random question, and probably one that DMUK can answer. What ever happened to that guy from LA who was heading up GB and then was reportedly working on a new game that was rumored to be GB2. Is he working with the EAW team? or is he on some other random project. (sorry, I just randomly remembered him) sorry, random Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Hey this is a really random question, and probably one that DMUK can answer. What ever happened to that guy from LA who was heading up GB and then was reportedly working on a new game that was rumored to be GB2. Is he working with the EAW team? or is he on some other random project. (sorry, I just randomly remembered him) sorry, random Garry Gaber? He left LucasArts over a year ago. I'm not so bummed out by this. The B-Wing is one of my favorites though, but I'll survive without it. The Rebels have quite a large variety of capital ships and I think that if they didn't, it would justify its inclusion. Now, the Rebels don't seem to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Jan - sure the tech tree is supposed to stop at ANH, and yet we get Mon Cal Frigates and A-wings that were only seen in RotJ, just like the B-wing, so I don't see how that can explain the B-wing not being in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithxace Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 because they used the movie and other sources such as the fact bwings wernt designed til late in ROTJ, they were like almost prototypes during the battle of endor, like that brand new. Now the Mon Camari cruisers eve though they wrnt in ANH, they were always around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthfergie Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Jan - sure the tech tree is supposed to stop at ANH, and yet we get Mon Cal Frigates and A-wings that were only seen in RotJ, just like the B-wing, so I don't see how that can explain the B-wing not being in the game. It's semi true. The alliance didn't have the Mon Cal Cruisers, but they were there. The Mon Cals had been fighting the empire for years before they joined the alliance and had already built up their star cruisers into vessels of war. I agree that it's really kind of weird that they are putting them in the game, but the game would be very unbalanced if they only gave the rebels small ships that couldn't stand toe to toe with star destroyers. So it's not just a matter of when it was made, but it's really a matter of how do we balance this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 You probably arn't able to produce Mon Cals until you've "researched" them. And as been stated above: While the B-Wing wasn't finished designed until shortly before RotJ, the Mon Cal ships, which were at first converted cruise ships, had been around from before ANH. The A-Wing was designed around ANH, so that's why they can justify its inclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Oh good god. Mon Cal Cruiser ANH = No ESB = No RotJ = Yes A-wing ANH = No ESB = No RotJ = Yes B-wing ANH = No ESB = No RotJ = Yes No difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garbageben Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 If you are going to use that reasoning DW then consider this: AT-AT ANH: no ESB: yes RotJ: yes EaW: yes SSD ANH: no ESB: yes RotJ: yes EaW: no It's like others have said. It goes more about when they were developed and not when they were seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Gameplay > Realism. You should know this by now Windu. According to your logic, the rebels would have nothing but puny Corellian Corvettes to face the Empire's fleet of Star Destroyers. Very great balance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Oh good god. Mon Cal Cruiser ANH = No ESB ...... etc Oh, good God indeed, Windu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason91 Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Personally i think your all being a little bit tiny minded its only 1 little ship it can't turn the tide of a battle. ( sorry if that upsets any 1 ) were probbly going 2 get an expansion pack tho that will include all the other stuff ( sorry if i upset any 1 and sorry 2 Darth Moeller for my previous post on those questions i had i didn't mean 2 upset u / offend you in any way m8 ) once again sorry. As for those people over the b wing calm down so the b wing an in it at this time you'll probbly get an expansion or summin that will have it. That and your also geting a great game none the less so please be greatful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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