No B-Wing fighter

[WxDude]

Gameplay > Realism.

 

You should know this by now Windu.

 

According to your logic, the rebels would have nothing but puny Corellian Corvettes to face the Empire's fleet of Star Destroyers. Very great balance...

 

But that's fair. The Rebels don't deserve the CRS anyway. It was a fluke that the Empire lost Mon Calamari.

 

And Jan -

 

My argument is just fine. You don't agree with it so you say it is weak. The B/W was developed to take out Imperial FRGs. And yes, there are other frigate type ships in the game, but their counterpart is already developed. So there is no need for a B/W.

[lukeiamyourdad]

But that's fair. The Rebels don't deserve the CRS anyway. It was a fluke that the Empire lost Mon Calamari.

 

 

Fair or not, it's not good balance to have one side have all the capital ships and the other virtually none.

[WxDude]

Fair or not, it's not good balance to have one side have all the capital ships and the other virtually none.

 

That's how the Rebellion started. The massive Imperial Navy vs their tiny warships that did nothing.

 

As Mon Mothma said in her memoirs:

 

Make no mistake, the Mon Calamari saved the galaxy. Their cruisers protected our fleet at the Battle of Endor, allowing the starfighters to penetrate the second Death Star's core. Without Admiral Ackbar and his people, we would all be the Emperor's slaves.

 

With the Mon Calamari's loss at the hands of the Empire, none of that would have happened and the second Death Star would have been completed and unstoppable.

 

-evil laugh-

[Sithxace]

heres a question relating the battle of endor. How many starships did the rebels have in it? Like before they jumped into hyperspace in the movie i saw like 7-8 starships? So did they meet up with like other fleets of ships at endor to fight?

[general ackbar]

poopy that its not in....

[WxDude]

heres a question relating the battle of endor. How many starships did the rebels have in it? Like before they jumped into hyperspace in the movie i saw like 7-8 starships? So did they meet up with like other fleets of ships at endor to fight?

 

That's about right...I think.

 

The fleet at Sullust was the only fleet. You couldn't see the rest of the fleet as it made the jump because they all jumped at different vectors so they wouldn't come out of hyperspace at the same point at the same time...while that would have been good for the Empire, that would have turned public opinion aganist the Rebels, seeing as how they couldn't even make a simple jump into and out of hyperspace.

[BattleDamage]

about the b wings i say: OMG NOOOOO!!! I know they will prolly include them in the exp. but i cant wait that long! i can barely contain myself waiting for this eaw! WHY!? i love bwings so much why must they take them away from me!!!???

[darthfergie]

"Life's tough, Grab a helmet" comes to mind... heh

[WxDude]

And go blow up a few CRS while your at it.

[Sithxace]

yea thats what i thought but then at the middle/end of the battle you see like 4-5 mon cam.'s after the deathstar destroyed a few. Like when luke was fighting vader in the deathstar, you see the dozens of ISD's and then a lot more rebel ships than before the jump that i saw.

[darthfergie]

And go blow up a few CRS while your at it.

CRS: Mon Calamari Cruiser

lol, even I have to go look up your abbreviations sometimes WxDude. CRS sounds nothing like Mon Cal. heh.

 

you may need to put a link to that abbreviations thread in your sig for easy future use.

[Dagobahn Eagle]

Personally i think your all being a little bit tiny minded its only 1 little ship it can't turn the tide of a battle.

Right - it's "only" the #1 heavy bomber the Alliance has. 3 lasers, 3 ions, tonnes of torpedoes. How would a squadron of those be of any help;)?

 

I remember when they included them in Galactic Conquest, in the last release. It was horrible against fast TIEs, though, so it required a fighter escort:o.

[Logain]

what exactly is galactic conquest?

 

edit: nevermind

[Darth_Extas]

Accually the B-Wing isn't a bomber at all(Sorry to correct you), It is a heavily armoured fighter that is armed with an optional Ion Cannon. Besides they were developed way to late to have any part in the game. For a fact I do not remember when exactly the Mon Calimari entered the Rebel Alliance for the New Republic. All this is as well the designers choice in the matter,.

[Dagobahn Eagle]

Accually the B-Wing isn't a bomber at all(Sorry to correct you), It is a heavily armoured fighter that is armed with an optional Ion Cannon.

According to 99% of all sources (all of which contradict the ones saying it's a fighter;)), B-Wings are heavy bombers. I have heard that Galaxies, among others, turned some of these views upside-down, but the heavy bomber role is the accepted version today.

 

Just to those who don't know:

Galactic Conquest (http://www.galactic-conquest.net) is, as many know, a late BF 1942 total conversion. Awesome well-researched, detailed, innovative, team-play-oriented game, but it died when Battlefront and Battlefield 2 came out:(. It's also one of very few mods for the game to make it out of the beta stage.

[Foshjedi2004]

Eagle is correct. Its classification is a B-wing Heavy Bomber much like the US's B-52 flying fortress during WW2.

 

So very tired that I say to you !!

 

Come to Legacy later today. Its Update day:P

[Darth_Extas]

Sorry to argue again but, The B-wing even by the official Star Wars web-site says it qualifies as a heavy Fighter, as well no proton bombs so in no way is it a bomber as well it has proton torpedos and Ion Cannon. As well no Bomber would have an Ion Cannon.

[Jan Gaarni]

How aobut we meet at the middle and just refer to it as a Fighter Bomber.

[El Sitherino]

I don't seem to remember the B-wing ever carrying a payload though. Only projectiles.

[Darth_Extas]

Now that does fit my point!

As well the only real bombers for the New Republic/Rebels were the Y-Wings and different modifications(correct me if I'm wrong). Thoughout the Star Wars history has there ever been a B-wing used as a bomber?(Correct me if I'm wrong) for what I know of is no because of the B-wings late creation and the fact that it has no payload.

[Admiral Sith]

It could be loaded with bombs, it was meant to replace the Y-Wings anyway, but production never met demand so Y-Wings stayed. And for the guy who said no bomber could have Ion Cannon, the Y-Wing has an Ion Cannon turret

[lukeiamyourdad]

Bombers armed with torpedoes are still called bombers.

 

 

As well no Bomber would have an Ion Cannon.

 

You just said the Y-Wing was a bomber and it does have an Ion Cannon. So which is it?

[El Sitherino]

It could be loaded with bombs, it was meant to replace the Y-Wings anyway, but production never met demand so Y-Wings stayed. And for the guy who said no bomber could have Ion Cannon, the Y-Wing has an Ion Cannon turret

Except it has no payload compartment that I've noticed, it'd have to be strapped.

 

I'm not saying it can't be a bomber, but so could an x-wing if modified to carry payload.

 

Technically anything that can't carry a payload isn't a bomber, as the entire thing is bombs are dropped, missles (or torpedos as they're in space and water) are just fired, making the b-wing a fighter.

[lukeiamyourdad]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo_bomber

 

The difference in modern warfare however, has become so blurry that some wonder what a fighter is and what a bomber is. The F-16, for example, was designed for aerial combat yet are often used as "bomb trucks".

 

Was the B-Wing designed for space combat? I don't think so. It was specifically made to assault warships, just like a torpedo bomber.

 

We can argue on what to call it, fighter or bomber, but that does not change the fact that it isn't used to counter other fighters.

 

In fact, if we can't even used the "bomber" designation for any of the starfighters outside of the Tie Bomber.

 

This is getting pointless...

[Jan Gaarni]

Errr, X-Wings do have payloads. It can fire both torpedoes and missiles.

 

So can the A-Wing ... and the Y-Wing ... and yes, even the B-Wing has a weapons payload.

 

Like Luke said, the B-Wing was primearly designed to fight ships, not fighters.

It's got most of it's weapons aimed towards just that goal: Ion Canons and projectile capabilities. And like the Y-Wing before it, it can take a punch. But it's not as agile as an X-Wing or an A-Wing.

 

In space terms it's a bomber.