lukeiamyourdad Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 nothing beats an FPS using mouse & keyboard controls. i still wonder why Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft haven't picked up on at least allowing games to use a keyboard and mouse. if they did that, heck, the only reason to get a PC would be third-party mods. FPS and strategy games would benefit the most, but still, it'd be a huge selling point. I know of existing adaptator for keyboard+mouse, but you have to use a predefine set of keys for X game. In other words, if you're used to using the "G" key for grenade throwing but the adaptator says you can't use it for X game, well, you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 That sounds handy, I play at my desk instead of the couch;) Do they make versions with multiple ports and the ability to toggle between which sytem it controls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 That sounds handy, I play at my desk instead of the couch;) Do they make versions with multiple ports and the ability to toggle between which sytem it controls? You means toggle between control schemes right? If so then yes. Basically, one of those adaptators comes with schemes for a good variety of FPS games. The one I know of (can't remember the name), has various settings for Brothers in Arm, Halo, Unreal Championship, etc. The thing isn't cheap though, but not too expansive either. However, for some reason, it only supports old mouses with balls (how do they call those again?) so if you've thrown yours away, you'll have to fork out 5$ for a new one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Actually, I was wondering if they had multiple ports so you can connect to multiple systems and use a switch/toggle/button on the keyboard to determine which port is active. But interesting nonetheless:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 The PS2 also had major issues when it came out, remember? Furthermore, most of the decent games for it seem to be sequels to classic PS1 games. When the Playstation originally came out there were complaints about the lack of games for it too. Moving on to the drop test, I have one question: why? Who in their right, left, wrong, sideways, up, down, side-to-side or fish mind would want to drop their console from 20 feet? Even 5 feet seems looney.... In any case, it has less to do with how good the console is and more to do with the shape. The shape of a PS2 is inherently more fragile than the Gamecube which is, after all, a cube. Everything Microsoft releases has bugs. If they brought out a pencil, there'd be issues with termites. The more complicated controllers get the less I like them, myself. They're much too complex and make it harder for malco-ordinated people like me to play. Over test periods/Q&A and what they're for: Tell that to LucasArts. The only decent game that Nintendo ever released was Tetris, IMO. Every other before and since has annoyed the hell out of me. Also, whatever happened to the Dreamcast? Does anyone have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Moving on to the drop test, I have one question: why? Who in their right, left, wrong, sideways, up, down, side-to-side or fish mind would want to drop their console from 20 feet? Even 5 feet seems looney.... In any case, it has less to do with how good the console is and more to do with the shape. The shape of a PS2 is inherently more fragile than the Gamecube which is, after all, a cube. There are very good reasons why drop tests are important... say you're a kid and you're walking along with your favourite console, you trip and whoops it goes flying into the floor and boom. Does it still work? Is it okay? The casing looks fine but what if there is some internal problem? This brings me to the next point, the GameCube isn't an actual cube, it's just a differently shaped rectangle, and in any case, it is no different than the PS2 and Xbox, in terms of casing. In fact, the GCN case is made from some VERY thin plastic, which is easier to destroy than what the PS2 and Xbox has, it's the INTERNAL stuff that you really gotta worry about. The only decent game that Nintendo ever released was Tetris, IMO. Every other before and since has annoyed the hell out of me. Tetris isn't a Nintendo game, that's like saying Metal Gear Solid is Sony's greatest game... nope MGS is Konami's greatest game XD Anywayz, the point is that it seems like Tetris is the only game you've ever played on a Nintendo system if you say that, seriously. I mean jeebus, the Mario Kart series, the oldskool Marios, Zelda - old and new, the Metroid series... SUPER METROID! *points at you accusingly* ...man I really wanna play Super Metroid again... best game EVER. Also, whatever happened to the Dreamcast? Does anyone have one? The Dreamcast died about a year or two after the PS2 was launched. Some people think it was directly because of Sony's popularity that this happened but it isn't. Sega was dieing long before the PS2s success. The main problem with Sega was that it was suffering a lot of financial trouble and failures in its product line. So the day finally came when Sega said it couldn't do business anymore, so a company called Sammy bought Sega, cut away all the hardware producing elements of it and made it into a software company. Unfortunately for Sega most of their games are now pretty mediocre and Sonic will never be the same *cries*... The Dreamcast was pretty cool though, it was the first real console to take what the N64 and SNES started with the new 3D generation and refine it. The Dreamcast was the first (at the time) next-generaiont console and was released before the PS2 and GCN (no one knew about the Xbox at that time). But speaking of which, it was funny how Microsoft entered this market. Their first order of business was to form relationships between already existing companies in the industry. They went to Nintendo first, asking if they could create an OS for their new system codenamed "Ultra 64" but of course Nintendo declined. There was no gain in what Microsoft was proposing, it'd be like giving Sony the rights to access Nintendo's extremely valuable first party franchise lineup back in the days when the Nintendo PlayStation was being drawn up. So then Microsoft went to Sega, who at the time was dealing with their own problems at the time. Sega, being in the position that they were accepted Microsoft's proposal and because of that you could now get Microsoft CE on the Dreamcast. Of course, soon the Dreamcast died, which is a real shame cause it was a bloody good console, and Microsoft was again out of the market they were trying to penetrate. Then the idea for the Xbox came, a last minute attempt to get back in, it was a rush job, would cost Microsoft quite a bit to make, but of course no one in Microsoft cared, they print money over there, a 4 billion loss is like 20 cents to them. Well anywayz, everyone already knows what happens after this point... EDIT: The Xbox 360 And Japanese Nationalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 It's not to do with the thickness, but rather the shape of the casing. I can't remember why, but a cube-ish shape is stronger than one that looks like to sheafs of paper layered badly. Also, if a kid wanders around with their console under one arm, they are asking for it to get broken. Common Sense is supposed to be common Yeah, fine, be a pedant about who wrote the game Point is, it's my opinion that it's about the only decent game Nintendo have ever had on any of their console/platform/hunks-o'-junk, 'cept Goldeneye. Hate Mario, Mario Kart and Metroid. Zelda looks fiddly and annoying, much like the former two, and Metroid was also irritating the one time I played it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 It's not to do with the thickness, but rather the shape of the casing. I can't remember why, but a cube-ish shape is stronger than one that looks like to sheafs of paper layered badly. Also, if a kid wanders around with their console under one arm, they are asking for it to get broken. Common Sense is supposed to be common Cube-ish or no cube-ish the GCN shell is very thin and isn't as strong as the N64 and SNES shell. I've and other people have dropped my SNES and N64 a few times, on carpet, concrete and the kitchen tiles. There wasn't anything clumsy about it, there were valid reasons for those console being dropped, after the first times for both I was never worried because neither suffered any damage XD and I hear that kinda thing from a lot of people with Nintendo systems. I wouldn't drop my GCN though, no matter how well Nintendo made it, the hardware itself may survive but I don't want to have a GCN with a screwed shell, I am gonna be trading it in for my NRV after all XD Yeah, fine, be a pedant about who wrote the game Point is, it's my opinion that it's about the only decent game Nintendo have ever had on any of their console/platform/hunks-o'-junk, 'cept Goldeneye. Hate Mario, Mario Kart and Metroid. Zelda looks fiddly and annoying, much like the former two, and Metroid was also irritating the one time I played it So then what kinda games do you like? I don't know, since this is a Kotor forum obviously Kotor, and similar games I would think... so then, yeah I get where you're coming from, since Nintendo doesn't produce PC-like games for obvious reasons... plus GoldenEye was made by Rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 There you go, pedanting again . Goldeneye was made *for* the N64, and that and Tetris are the only two Nintendo games I've ever not-minded. Oh, and teh old SimCity with the wyrd guy with green hair for SNES... As for dropping your console - it seems to me that you either carry it carefully, or put it in a bag... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 There you go, pedanting again . Goldeneye was made *for* the N64, and that and Tetris are the only two Nintendo games I've ever not-minded. Oh, and teh old SimCity with the wyrd guy with green hair for SNES... Or maybe you should make yourself a little clearer and say something like "games on a Nintendo system" instead of "Nintendo games" and expect that sometimes people aren't going to get you the first time or misunderstand something As for dropping your console - it seems to me that you either carry it carefully, or put it in a bag... It's not like it's taking a trip half way around the world, a lot can happen when you move something 4 - 10 meters away. You hand it to someone, you think they have it, they don't, and it drops. Yes, it's commonsense not to drop something but if it happens, it happens. You can't tie pillows to everything after all and it'd be wierd to lol But a great thing the GCN is a handle, pretty hard to drop it when you're holding onto it by the handle... too bad the Revolution doesn't have one... pity they're going for image rather than usefulness but what can ya do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 *shrugs* I normally try to make absolutely certain that someone's got something first, myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Anywayz, the portables are sure selling well, I mean the DS is attracting so many new customers and don't think the PSP is doing nothing either because in a way it's attracting new customers too, though most of those customers by the PSP for the multimedia uses rather than gaming... It's been said that the PSPs true rival is the Ipod XD I think that's very accurate since Sony doesn't seem to be interested in actually getting a large amount of worthwhile games for the PSP at this moment. I also want to see if Sony will utilise the EyeToy a lot more on the PS3, they've been bragging about how great it is and how it can do all these cool things, but the EyeToy so far has been more of a gimmick than what people accuse the Revolution Controller to be, it's no different from the SuperScope on the SNES. Only works with a few games and that's all you buy it for. It would be good if developers did take advantage of it in some way cause then Sony would be doing something very good for the industry for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Well, my recomendation would be to get some kind of extra warranty or service plan, I'm not sure what all is currently covered in the factory warranties, but I know they only last until the most probable time you'll break it. Once you've got gauranteed repair, you can then put it on your kids dresser or put one in your fraternity. *shakes fist at empty wallet* Wish I could take my own advise;) I just remembered a game other than Goldeneye that was decent on nintendo, I think it was called Armorines(?) with gold and silver PC's and lots of bug blasting, that was fun. And after playing PD0 and paying more attention to the details, it is a lot like the old Goldeneye. I'm not sure what the extent of extra features is for the PSP, but after seeing adds for GTA, I can understand why you'd buy it for something other than games;) So, to bring this thread back to the only current NG option... Has anyone else played a demo for Full Auto yet? I seems to have all the makings of a multiplayer addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynk Former Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 I just remembered a game other than Goldeneye that was decent on nintendo, I think it was called Armorines(?) with gold and silver PC's and lots of bug blasting, that was fun. And after playing PD0 and paying more attention to the details, it is a lot like the old Goldeneye. Oh yeah, Armorines, the Starship Troopers ripoff, that was actually a very crappy game lol. Well it was okay for an FPS if all you want to do is shoot stuff but GoldenEye and Perfect Dark took the top spots for FPS games in that era. Btw, anyone who hasn't played the original Perfect Dark but has played PDZ really should try to play the original. Most people say GoldenEye is better than Perfect Dark but in reality, Perfect Dark was a very refined game and was very underrated when it came to comparing it with GoldenEye. Another series that got hardly any love was Turok, but what can ya do.. at least a lot of the people behind it moved onto work for Retro Studios and have made Metroid Prime 1 and 2... can't wait for Metroid Prime 3. The more typical FPS setup is going to rock, especially with all of the abilities Samus has, like the grapple beam I have very nice visions of a boss battle involving no floor, a pit of lava and several grapple points on a very high ceiling. I hope Retro also bring back the shinespark ability, and I can't wait to use the screw attack with the NRV controller... it'd be cool if you could use the grapple beam any time you want as well instead of just at specific grapple points... *rambles on* I'm not sure what the extent of extra features is for the PSP, but after seeing adds for GTA, I can understand why you'd buy it for something other than games;) Yeah, though if I had to choose between the PSP and Ipod... Ipod would win, simply because it has a HD and it's not forcing me to use those damned UMDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDJOHNNYMIKE Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 Well, I've got a nice arm mounted nike, it doesn't hold too much, but you can't beat it when you're making that extended side roll off hand frisbee snag I've never really wanted an ipod either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrotoy7 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 lolz @ some of those graphs... Ive just finished a semester of postgraduate biostats/epidemiology...I DO NOT want to see another graph for the rest of my life interesting figures, though not entirely surprising mtfbwya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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