Darth333 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Yes, the Partie Quebecois is the same as the Bloc Quebecois. No, they are not the same. The Bloc is a Canadian federal party while the Parti Québécois is a provincial party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 ^ They still have with virtually identical platforms. To me, that makes them the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rok_stoned Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I voted Liberal, despite their scandals which I have no doubt were scewered by the rivals and media I think they're pretty good, they abolished our debt and managed the country well. Also I don't trust the other parties as they really don't know what they're doing I mean, have you seen the Conservative add? "voted conservative, vote for change." um, I think thats the opposite of what they advocate. And all the vote conservatives will get will be not for conservative but for Against liberal. Also did any of you know that communist party got 300 votes in B.C alone? P.S Doc, nice sig and avvy combo, way better than your old one and that one was good still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I can't stand the Liberals. I'm sick and tired of their lying. I suppose I could live with them, if it weren't for Martin. I mean, Cretien kept the sponsorship scandal quiet for years, and Martin blows it in six months. He's not Prime Minister material. Thanks! Though I had nothing to do with the avatar - ChAiNz edited the original to make it look better, and I just incorporated it into a sig (with inspirational help from Sabretooth). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rok_stoned Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I don't really like Paul Martin, he's kinda slimy. but I can't think of who else cold lead the liberals I learn most of what I know about politics by watching the air farce and then looking it up if its interesting. P.S give Chains my complements then! chains Thank you ~ ChAiNz.2da AH!!! Who said that?!?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Frank Mkenna (I know I spelt his name wrong...), the ambasador to the US. He's said he won't run for leader of the party, but he would have made a decent Prime Minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 ^ They still have with virtually identical platforms. To me, that makes them the same. More or less. Of course, they try to reflect their electors' visions and often those who vote for the BQ are voters for the PQ but not always. One thing is sure, they certainly aren't the same thing as one is expect to actually rule over a piece of land and another is doomed to stay in the opposition. So, taking that into consideration, they have a lot of differences. So yeah, just because both are separatists simply doesn't mean that they're the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Sorry for an outsider/Canadian political n00b's question, but wouldn't separatism weaken both new states considerably? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Yes, as a matter of fact it would. In the immortal words of Royal Canadian Air Farce: "Instead of being a province, completely dependant on Canada, we will become a completey seperate country - completely dependant on Canada." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 ... Yes and no. Yes, at the beginning, it will and probably for quite a while after too. However, both states will be part of a confederation, a bit like the EU. The Confederation will be still quite strong...well, as strong as Canada ever was... Truth is, this Royal Canadian Air Farce joke (the show is a load of crap anyway), certainly holds some truth. Québec will have to depend on its neighbors. I say neighbor, because any Canadian who believes he's truly free and independant from the USA is a blind idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 It's not a load of crap! It's just... exaggerated a little bit, that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Actually, it truly is crap and I wonder how it survived through all of those years. I only chuckled once on that show... Rick Mercer is so much better. Then again CBC is starting to churn out more neo-comedy shows so I guess RCAF is there to "balance" things out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rok_stoned Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 The real thing with RCAF is that it is almost 100% accurate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carthaholic Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 The real thing with RCAF is that it is almost 100% accurate... RCAF can be funny sometimes but saying that it's anywhere near accurate is crazy IMO. Like any other humoristic shows it greatly exagerate facts or even overlook facts altogether, skim over topics without going in depth and doesn't take everything into account - all for the sake of making good jokes. You can't seriously base your knowledge of politics on a show like that, can you? ô.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I did. RCAF is where I learned all the politicians names, and how to tell them apart (that was always a problem for me, putting a face to a name). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 IMO, Canada loses it's independance the day it becomes a presidency. Once that happens, it'll be quickly consumed by the American monolith. The only way to avoid complete americanisation is to create a larger confederation, IMHO. The Commonwealth shows what happens when that confederation goes wrong. Canada is separate from the US. Where in the US would you find stuffed squirrels, after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Or igloos? I think that Canada should apply to the EU. They probably wouldn't let us in, as we're not European, but it's worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 You don't want to go there. Seriously. It's a monolith which will consume your souls. I'm not joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 And becoming the largest American state won't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Where in the US would you find stuffed squirrels, after all? Much of the midwest. Or igloos? Alaska. From what I've seen, the issue with Canada is that everyone seems to kind of live a double standard. You're all saying "we're Canadian" yet you break yourselves up so violently, it's often worse than the splitups in the U.S. But then again, my exposure to Canada is minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 ^ Actually, I'd agree. We seperate ourselves into dozens of different catergories (Aboriginal Canadian, etc.), as well as between the four or five different climat zones (ie "Newfies")... It's rediculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Much of the midwest. I was talking about a rather renowned squirrel-stuffer from Conquerall Mills, Newfie. He stuffed the squirrels, and his wife and daughter made outfits for them. He had an entire museum of the things! Alaska. Everyone knows Alaska really belongs to the Russians From what I've seen, the issue with Canada is that everyone seems to kind of live a double standard. You're all saying "we're Canadian" yet you break yourselves up so violently, it's often worse than the splitups in the U.S. But then again, my exposure to Canada is minimal. It does seem that way from the outside. Then again, if you don't live there... Or should that be "ootside"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 From what I've seen, the issue with Canada is that everyone seems to kind of live a double standard. You're all saying "we're Canadian" yet you break yourselves up so violently, it's often worse than the splitups in the U.S. True enough. I can give you the opposite example. France is composed of several different cultural groups. We still find people speaking german dialects on the eastern borders of France, other dialects to the South and some also different to the North. Yet, even with their cultural differences, whenever you ask them what's their culture, they'll call themselves the french, no matter what. However, in Canada, everyone takes their culture very seriously. Everyone wants everyone to keep their differences no matter what. You're Canadian and a Quebecer. At least that's what it is for the federalist Quebecers For separatists, it's only Quebecer. That's the main difference I think. Quebecers being culturally different and wanting to safeguard that. It's like having your own little bastion against the influence of anglo-Canada and keeping it at all costs. Thus why Canada eventually recognized the existence of two different cultures, as oppose to France, who only recognize only a unique one. The same can be said about the United States. One single culture. Historical and social differences between all those three countries are great enough that this simple cultural seperation would not explain everything. Let's just say our vision of the world is different from the ones of other people living in other countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallucination Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 it's like having your own little bastion against the influence of anglo-Canada and keeping it at all costs. We're still gonna get you someday! IMO, it's our differences that make us who we are as a country. And hate of dumb Canadian jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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