akito272 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 I play the mod were you have all the stuff, i know it a mod anda things may not be acurrate enough but imp are weak.....ties blow easy, big ships too...except ISD that s a nice ship...but other suck...any opinion???
PygmyShrew Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 ties are supposed to be weak, the capital ships dying to quick? Im not sure I can properly comment on that not playing the mod or full game, if its true it needs fixing, itd be nice to do some tests, Rebel Frigate x 1 vs Victory Destroyer x 1 and see exactly what happens.
akito272 Posted January 24, 2006 Author Posted January 24, 2006 i went with 2 ISD against a mon calamari, frigate(anti-fithter one), and the other small but for attack(thats was the small display said), and a space station. i send by ties and bombers, and they were gone in no time, plus how is that my ship takes hull damage with its shield at full ???
RC2080 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 If the mod you were playing had the Corellian Gunships enabled (i.e. the "other small but for attack") ship, its missiles can penetrate shields.. And a VSD can easily take on a Nebulon-B..
PygmyShrew Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 And a VSD can easily take on a Nebulon-B.. As I said, id like to test it, we all know what would happen in theory.
splintercell56 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 Just tested a VSD versus a Nebulon-B on the Standard Demo no modifications. The Nebulon-B just took out its shields when it was destroyed. I used X-Wings and Han Solo to keep ties and bombers off the Nebulon-B.
clone_troopa Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 most demo combat that was "unlocked" wont be like the full version
darth_vadar_13 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 off topic a bit but i beat 2 venators with 1 imp frigate! those bombers wreak havoc!
Sithxace Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 "i send by ties and bombers, and they were gone in no time, plus how is that my ship takes hull damage with its shield at full ???" Answer is, proton torpedos go right thru shields which is ludacris. Dont know where they got it from and unless all the xwing games were wrong, there deff wrong.
popcorn2008 Posted January 24, 2006 Posted January 24, 2006 most demo combat that was "unlocked" wont be like the full version Clone_troopa is correct, the demo is from an earlier December build, the 17th to be specific, and the combat will be slightly changed in the final release. Right now the game is being balanced, so unit strengths/weaknesses may change, though probably not drastically.
quickymart Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 mon cals rip all SD's to shreds...i start cursing when i see them in the demo, because i know i cant retreat...there goes my ships :/
PygmyShrew Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 A mon cal can take out a ISD? *rolls eyes* *cough* fix! *cough*
NinjaSokudo Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Actually if Mon Cals rip through your Imperial Star Destroyers you have very bad tactics, sorry. I've been playing Bryant's mod and on day 64, I attacked Mon Calamari.... Which turned out to be the rebels most defended planet space wise on this particular play session. I attacked with Captain Piett, 20 ISDs (some obviously in reserves), 10 VSDs and various other combat craft. My battle score turned out to be 78%. My main losses were Captain Piett 6 Star Destroyers and 7 Victories. My enemy's main losses: Admiral Ackbar and 56 Mon Cal Cruisers. That single battle lasted 1 hour and 20 minutes. It was quite fun.
shadowsfm Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 i like how missles and torps go through shields. it makes the game more complex. hey, you know them ion cannons the cap ships have? whats thier strength? is it shields?
clone_troopa Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 well on ground with the upgraded particle shield no rocket can get throu my baby! pure charge to get a base TEEHEE!
Admiral Sith Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 wow 56 Mon Cals, i would love to have a battle like that
PygmyShrew Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Actually if Mon Cals rip through your Imperial Star Destroyers you have very bad tactics, sorry. I've been playing Bryant's mod and on day 64, I attacked Mon Calamari.... Which turned out to be the rebels most defended planet space wise on this particular play session. I attacked with Captain Piett, 20 ISDs (some obviously in reserves), 10 VSDs and various other combat craft. My battle score turned out to be 78%. My main losses were Captain Piett 6 Star Destroyers and 7 Victories. My enemy's main losses: Admiral Ackbar and 56 Mon Cal Cruisers. That single battle lasted 1 hour and 20 minutes. It was quite fun. now THAT's what im talking about You dont know it but youve just restored my faith in this game to provide big epic battles
Den of Earth Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Actually if Mon Cals rip through your Imperial Star Destroyers you have very bad tactics, sorry. I've been playing Bryant's mod and on day 64, I attacked Mon Calamari.... Which turned out to be the rebels most defended planet space wise on this particular play session. I attacked with Captain Piett, 20 ISDs (some obviously in reserves), 10 VSDs and various other combat craft. My battle score turned out to be 78%. My main losses were Captain Piett 6 Star Destroyers and 7 Victories. My enemy's main losses: Admiral Ackbar and 56 Mon Cal Cruisers. That single battle lasted 1 hour and 20 minutes. It was quite fun. Sounds like a great battle. Any trouble with planet based weapons? Ion cannon or hypervelocity gun? Or just suck up the losses in a manly, Imperial way and forge ahead?
Jan Gaarni Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 i like how missles and torps go through shields. it makes the game more complex. hey, you know them ion cannons the cap ships have? whats thier strength? is it shields? It's abit inaccurate, as all warships are equipped with both particle shields and ray shielding. And missiles and torpedoes are usually enveloped inside an energy cocoon to increase the damage and shield penetration. As for the Imperials being weak ... I'm gonna hold off my opinion on this one till the game comes out for sure.
PygmyShrew Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 After playing the mod I have to say ISD's do take damage a lot quicker than they perhaps should. I cant imagine destroying the hull of a massive ISD being easy to destroy.
Naso Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Just on initial impression, the ISD's are too fragile. They should have more brute strength both than a mon cal, which ought to be faster and maybe have more resilient hard-points or something. Also, I know a VSD should beat a neb-b, but the poor frigates seemed way too fragile. In x-wing the things were one of the nastiest cap ships to get close to.
akito272 Posted January 26, 2006 Author Posted January 26, 2006 shields go down to fast. a few fighters are a nightmare for this ships.
NinjaSokudo Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Sounds like a great battle. Any trouble with planet based weapons? Ion cannon or hypervelocity gun? Or just suck up the losses in a manly, Imperial way and forge ahead? It was a very great battle, but I don't think the mod had the galactic A.I. quite working all the way, for the demo, I'm sure it will be better in the full version. There wasn't an Ion Cannon on the ground, and actually when I brought in my ground fleet after moping up the last mon cal there wasn't much at all on the ground. This was in the invasion of Mon Calamari, so I supposed they were building up a huge MonCal fleet to send off to various captured planets for defense, but I ran into them before they sent them. I honestly thought it was bugged and would never end, Because the Rebels kept bringing in more moncals as reinforcements. It was the best battle I've played in the demo yet.
Ryebread Posted January 26, 2006 Posted January 26, 2006 Did the Rebels have any fighters or corvettes to counter your fighters/bombers? If not then it isn't surprising you destroyed so many MonCals. I imagine that 10 Tie Bomber squadrons could easily destroy 5 MonCals by themselves.
NinjaSokudo Posted January 27, 2006 Posted January 27, 2006 Yes, several missle corvettes, corellian corvettes, awing squadrons, xwing squads, ywing squads, assault frigates, it was a massive force.... and I had a similliary massive force (used a bounty hunter to spy on the forces before I invaded). Many ISD's in reserve, VSDs, all the different corvettes, patrol craft etc. Again, the best battle I've had :-D I just listed the most important losses for each side, because those were the most impressive, the biggest vessels.
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