stoffe Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 Welcome to the forum Macro. @stoffe-mkb- I would think that the Exile would go to find Revan. After all it was part of T3's mission to return from the Unknown Regions and find help. He came in search of the Exile, one who knew war. So because a droid (who may have been reprogrammed by just about anyone it has encountered, Kreia or the "true sith" for example) tells you that you (for unspecified reasons) must abandon the ailing Republic and a Jedi Order in dire need of rebuilding, and go off into uncharted territory to find a person you served under 10 years ago, who went to great lengths to ensure that no one would follow, the Exile would do it? Wouldn't it be awfully convenient for those mentioned "true sith" to send back Revan's old reprogrammed droid to gather up the remaining scraps of the Jedi and send them off into a trap so they might be wiped out once and for all? (Trap or no, barring a railroad plot my Exile would certainly stay behind, help the Republic get back on its feet and use the bunch of "potentials" she had gathered on the Ebon Hawk to help rebuild the Jedi Order. That seems much more urgent and important than going on a wild goose chase into the unknown after a Revan who may or may not be happy to see you, if still alive. Fortunately the ending sequence only shows the Ebon Hawk leaving the planet with no certain mention of destination. It could be en route to Coruscant just as much as it could be headed to "The Unknown Regions", so we can choose whichever ending we prefer. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQel-Droma Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I wouldn't like it. No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I would defiantely be disappointed, but I would still play it. I think the game will probably be a continuation from K1 and 2 though. RobQel-Droma, I've just noticed the text under the picture in your sig is a quote from Star Trek Voyager which actually works quite well when thought of in terms of the characters from KotOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremia Skywalk Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 kotor2 had a great idea how to hide the thing about the need of face editing of revan, and so, besides i would love a game not directly related to kotor's 1 and 2 beacause if you dont have any background you can once again do almost anything what u want. Or something like that, but no i wouldn't be dissapointed at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 So because a droid (who may have been reprogrammed by just about anyone it has encountered, Kreia or the "true sith" for example) tells you that you (for unspecified reasons) must abandon the ailing Republic and a Jedi Order in dire need of rebuilding, and go off into uncharted territory to find a person you served under 10 years ago, who went to great lengths to ensure that no one would follow, the Exile would do it? Wouldn't it be awfully convenient for those mentioned "true sith" to send back Revan's old reprogrammed droid to gather up the remaining scraps of the Jedi and send them off into a trap so they might be wiped out once and for all? (Trap or no, barring a railroad plot my Exile would certainly stay behind, help the Republic get back on its feet and use the bunch of "potentials" she had gathered on the Ebon Hawk to help rebuild the Jedi Order. That seems much more urgent and important than going on a wild goose chase into the unknown after a Revan who may or may not be happy to see you, if still alive.) Oh... I completely agree. The Exile has a chance to rebuild the Jedi Council. He/she could take steps in securing the future of the Jedi. If the 'True Sith' came back into Republic space, there would be a force to deal with the threat.... That is so logical. If your Exile ended on the darkside, why leave a broken Jedi Council and Sith Academy behind. It would be foolish for a Sith not to take advantage of this opprotunity. He/she could take over the galaxy by training nieve Jedi in Sith teachings. He/she could have Atris run the Sith Academy, and together they could rule the world. I would destroy Malacor V, so no one else would use its remain, and I would bring the rest of the Sith archives to the Telos Academy. Since you kill off the Jedi, I would also take a trip to Dantooine to destroy the temple. Turn it to ashes, and take the remaining Jedi archives as well. 'Know they enemey..." Korriban would also be demolished, so no one else would use its power. The Telos Acedamy is isolated in the artic poles of Telos. You can see your enemy coming at all angles. Kooriban as too many angles for an attack...Hehehe... I thought it was shortsighted that the 'Exile' was shown going off to the Unknown Regions... There is too much opportunity for power in Republic space. He/she could have changed the future by sticking around... Why follow Revan? If I was a Sith, I wouldn't want to be someone elses Apprentice. If I was a Jedi, I could prepare for the upcoming threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaelastraz Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I agree completely with everything stoffe -mkb- says. Kotor I is a great story. Revan's fate seemed to be clear. Kotor II's story wasnt bad either, but Revan and the Exile dont really fit together... IF a sequel is made to a game, in a rpg you should be the same PC. I want a new Kotor, new characters, new threats... why not uhm.. 60 years after TSL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Quick and to the point I see. Well to counter that 60 years later, a definite no. The story has to be finished. stoffe-mkb- is entitled to her opinion and makes a valid point about the possibility of reprogramming a droid but then why the holovids of Bastila or Carth? It's very hard to tamper with a recorded hologram, I know I've tried it and the droid threw my hydrospaner back at me. Somehow I buy the idea that the Exile was one who understood war even though Kavar did as well and knew of the mysterious presence in the Unknown Regions. If you follow through the story concerning that final meeting on Dantooine, the Exile first felt it at Duxn and Malachor was the final blow. I know that he turned from the Force and lived because, as Kreia said, he was afraid. He felt the evil through all those deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Never, and would spit at the mere mention of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobQel-Droma Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 RobQel-Droma, I've just noticed the text under the picture in your sig is a quote from Star Trek Voyager which actually works quite well when thought of in terms of the characters from KotOR. Yeah. It is kind of a longer version of what Kreia says, actually. The Doctor posted it when he asked me if I was a Trekky, and I like the quote- so I kept it. It's kind of blurry though, I'm going to upload a new version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Man Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I know that he turned from the Force and lived because, as Kreia said, he was afraid. He felt the evil through all those deaths. Something I have noticed on this and other threads is that people are willing to believe almost anything Kreia says. I believe almost nothing Kreia says. She was a master manipulator. She would tell you she was a purple Hutt with pink polka dots if she thought you would believe it and it advanced her desires. You cannot just accept what Kreia said as fact. She never truly understood the Exile because she was looking at him from her warped point of view. I don't think the Exile turned from The Force because he was afraid. I think he turned away because he needed time to heal. His ability to form such strong bonds with others caused him to feel unimaginable pain over all the deaths at Malachor V. Separation from others is a normal response to grief. For the Exile to separate himself from The Force which allowed him to form these bonds and feel such pain is completely understandable. He needed time to be alone and deal with his grief. He may not have consciously separated himself (hence the "Why did you separate me from The Force?" questions to each of the Masters), but he did it just the same. However, once he had time to heal, he saw, as we do once we have healed from our grief, that isolation is worse than loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith_Reven Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 If the last game was what the original post said. I would rage and probably destroy it. I would go mad. But really it would be quite dissappointing and I might not play it. It can't end that way. Kotor is a big storyline split into two so far and hopefully three. This is how I see it. Kotor 1 is about Reven, Kotor2 is about the exile but it explains alot about Reven and his choices and the things he promised to do like make war again and the exile is suggested to go and do battle with him at the end. Kotor 3 I imagine will involve both Reven and the exile fighting together. It is logical progression. This idea in the beginning would be a foolish thing for the devs to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibro Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 They did in fact make K3, but made it far into the future and the only mention of Revan, the Exile or the "True Sith" were through passing conversations with various NPCs in cantinas and such, but that the story was completely different and wasn't a continuation of K1 and K2? Or, in your mind, is the only way it can be called Kotor3 is if they continue the story from the previous two games? If they do make a K3, I'm 99.9% sure it will followthe Revan/Exile story, even if you don't get to play aseither of the characters. However, if they did do that I'd probably still play the game but I'd be quite disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Outlaw Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Originally Posted by JediMaster12 I know that he turned from the Force and lived because, as Kreia said, he was afraid. He felt the evil through all those deaths. When I played the game Kreia said you cut yourself from the force because you had no other choice, not because you were afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I'll play the game no matter what part of SW history it is part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotorfan84 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I would be very disappointed, but would probably get the game anyway. I'm cool with them jumping far into the future after this story has been completed (hopefully the same developer will continue the story each time), but I want to see the story unfold before me, and be able to decide it's outcome. This is part of why I believe part 2 was lacking (apart from what they left out). Although the story tied together, the fact that Revan had no influence in the game really was disappointing to me, and I hope part 3 ties everything together. After that I could care less what time period the use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Source Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Ah, now to create some more intresting thoughts. In order to continue the story, one would have to answer: 1. Did KotOR 1 have a clear ending? Yes. 2. Did KotOR 2 have an actual ending? Yes. I hear an argument allready... Hehehe... KotOR 2 had an ending? Yes it did. It is as clear as day, but it is all in dialogue. Whet made the game feel like a cliffhanger was not contributed to 'Cut Content, but the expectation of an dramatic and cinematic ending. KotOr I was all epic at the end; however, KotOR II was completely dialogue. There is a clear and clean ending to KotOR II, and Kreia told you how it all unfolded. If you missed any dialogue in your conversation with her, you would have missed the entire ending. There was closure. It is there, but people don't want to believe it. People are also blind because it says Star Wars on the package. Revan's 'Star Forge' story ended in KotOR I. There is only one cliff hanger to this game, and it was, "Where is Revan"... The Exile's existance is meaningless, and Kreia made that quite clear: PC - What about me me? Kreia - Are you looking for a dramatic revelation, or some conclusion of self importance? There is none. You are what you are, and no one can take that away from you. You just are... Kreia (Earlier) - You are an end to the Force. You are an echo. I could point out more to the Exile, but he/she was just a side track. The character has no place in the 'Unknown Regions', or even any where for that matter. Regarless about your existance at Malacor V, you are not important to the series. Obsidian Entertainment wanted to continue the Revan story without the PC being Revan. One of their flaws was trying to avoid telling Revan's story straight out. It was as if Obsidian had absolutly no direction, so they took bits and pieces from KotOR I in an attempt to be successful. If it wasn't for the fact that the 'Cut Content' was advertised, people would not be giving Obsidian Ent excuses for a poorly executed game. At the end, I bought a completed game. Even without the 'Cut Content', Obsidian's editing and writting crippled this games potential. Regardless about time restraint, it was Obsidian's choice to edit the game in this manner. If there is to be a KotOR III, I would be open to a new story that is a 100 years earlier or later than Revan's. Playing a game that takes place before Revan would be intresting, and it will still bring my intrest to the table. Or, they could create another KotOR, but 3,000 years before Episode III. Eitherway, I will have a potentially fun game, which will no doubt maintain my intrest. But not on blind faith. I think KotOR II is a mess, and the faster a third comes out the better we all are going to be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I'd play the game whether or not it involved ties to the first 2 games, as long as it was a fun RPG game with a good story. I'd prefer to hear _something_ that tied up some of the loose ends of the other stories, but I could deal with it not there. I can always resort to my own imagination to finish the Revan story the way I want, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Kudos to Jae Onasi. I think most of us have our own ideas as to what happened to Revan and the Exile. Still I would like to see how LA says what happened. In a way, it would give a nice flourishing end, the way Star Wars is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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