n321 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 So I browse these forums and see EXTA talented people. They mod JKO and make new models and even new stories. They make new textures, alter code ect. What is stopping these GREAT modders from stepping out and making there own JK game. Well the answer is a game engine. Well here is my proposal! For those who dont know...JKO/JKA was made with the Q3 engine (modified). The q3 engine code is now Open source!!! So realy anyone could make a game with it and release it! Now there is a modified Q3 engien called Xreal. Xreal looks like doom 3 in every way! (except gameplay) It has all af Doom3s high end graphic features. Normalmapping, paralaxmapping, doom 3 and quake 4 map support, md5 models, MTR shaders, Perpixel lighting...it even can use old Q3 shaders and maps and models (md3)!! I have taken XreaL and added the code of a SP Q3 game mod called The Dark Conjunction! It has a save/load system, SP game play (not arena), NPC's, Monsters, cutscenes, ect. Its not as advanced as JKO but it could be if alterd a bit! In all I have a great engine that can be the starting point for an amazing JK game. With some basic code changes in the game code it could work better the JKO. It also has advanced graphics...imagine JKO in the Doom 3 engine...this is what I have! Not only that I am talented in story making. As a matter of fact I have a great JK story already made...filled with action, romance and EVIL. It is a dark story, one that truely shows the battle between light and dark. this story in a dark engine like xreal will be amazing! What I need is a small group of talented artest who want to work together and make this game real! I will head up the project and work on all aspects of it. I need 1 modeler, 1 map maker, 2 texture artests, and a programmer. Or as close to this as I can get. Any one interested would be great! email me at ncgproductions@hotmail.com if your interested or post here. also post any coments and questions, im rushed for time right now so I will post more info later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Erm... there's only a hand full of modders still visit the Swamp, and I don't know if they're still active in JO/JA mod making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupes. Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 You do realise it takes dozens of professionnals, working overtime shifts for at years to create a video game. And you think a bunch of amateurs, can do this on free time through emails and MSN... o_O Just look at most TC mods for any game out there, most never see the light of day because of the lack of resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_hill987 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 A nice idea, I can't see many swampies being able to help though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n321 Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 ok...let me explane myself a bit more! First I am not thinking professional quality! I thinking like mod or TC quality. So no not years. Take a look at The huhnted chronicles...it is a game made with a modified Q1 engine and it was done by one guy in less then a year. If I have some one who can do the major brush work for maps in a Q3 map format, and someone who can model, I can take care of most of the other stuff. Like textures and voiceovers. I am a student at a university with professional sound equipment and I have people who can do voiceovers and live music! I can make and get ahold of textures! I already have the story finished! So why will it take years to make some ameture maps and models....heck I can just use the gimp normal map tool to make the normal maps! the levels dont need to be extra detailed...and remember detail can be added later! No animations are needed for movies because I can do it all with NPC's in game! (I still ahae not figured out ingame lipsyncing tho...I can only lipsync in cutsceens!) Yes it will take some work but its not impossible...even for "ametures"! Take a look at the above game and if you want more examples of ametures at work let me know...I am friends with most of them! and they also will be helping with the project. I will start with/or/without peoples help...it will just look better and get finished faster if I had help! My big needs are a mapper and a modeler! thats it. and with in a few months I can guarentee at least a demo of the first few levels. There may be issues with lucasarts not wanting us to use the name sarwars tho so we would just drop the starwars part if this occures... I am finishing up game code now on the engine...i dont code well so its taken me a while! I will start on Stormtrooper monster code next and then go to force powers! (this will be the real chalenge!) I am in contact with a raven rep about getting outcasts code opensourced so that I can study and use it!!! he says it may be possible! So we will see...if not I know enough coders to get the job done! As for modders not viseting the swamp should I post this elsewere? Dont instantly say its not possible without real knowlege of how to make a game. I am studying game dev now at school and see class mates making games all the time. they say the hardest part, and what takes the longest is programming an engine...that is done already! EDIT: Wow...lots of typoes in this post...srry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 ok...let me explane myself a bit more! Yes, please explane. My suggestion, think about using a different game/engine, like mod HL2 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n321 Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 why use hl2? it is not opensource...only people with hl2 can play it...the XreaL game engine is better looking the hl2, more advanced, and will be standalone!!! XreaL looks like Quake 4 and the graphics are now improving more...afriend of mine is adding HDR to it...and we are making our own model format for it to match the new unreal engine stuff comeing out...it is constantly being updated! unike hl2...which is not OS might I add! so sheesh mr. explane yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n321 Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 Xreal looks BETTER then hl2 and just like D3...infact it can use D3 media! AND its opensource!!!! I have the code....I can release a STANDALONE GAME with it! Here are pictures! So why am I gonna go mod an engine when I can just make my own game!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSR Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 he's right ya'know,ooh, he's right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n321 Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 whos right...me or him? sorry I dont follow convos well mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 This is the wrong place to be recruiting modders man. And the way you type is very proffesional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dath Maximus Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Gotta love those n00b double posts. You're more likely to pick up actual bounty hunters at the swamp than modders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 So why am I gonna go mod an engine when I can just make my own game!? Right, well if you can make your own game, why are we even having this conversation? Go make the damned thing already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n321 Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share Posted July 15, 2006 you know your a jerk. so I cant type...at no time did I say that I was a pro. all I did was post in the best place I could think of...bt this community seems to be unfriendly and full of jerks. I am not a noob. I ahve been at game dev. since I was 13...I am a junior in college and almost have my BA in game dev. But I dont need to prove myself to you...the guy who likes to play games and spend his time being a forum rat! You probibly dont know the first thing about developing a game! Get over your self man...sheesh all you needed to say was move your post the this section and I would have...forget this place Ill just go to a place where people have brains and not one full of mouths! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 forget this place Ill just go to a place where people have brains and not one full of mouths! Huzzah. *Looks at TiE* Our work here is finished, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 you know your a jerk. so I cant type...at no time did I say that I was a pro. all I did was post in the best place I could think of...bt this community seems to be unfriendly and full of jerks. I am not a noob. I ahve been at game dev. since I was 13...I am a junior in college and almost have my BA in game dev. But I dont need to prove myself to you...the guy who likes to play games and spend his time being a forum rat! You probibly dont know the first thing about developing a game! Get over your self man...sheesh all you needed to say was move your post the this section and I would have...forget this place Ill just go to a place where people have brains and not one full of mouths!I can count the amount of people at GameDev who are actually game developers on one hand. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure that typing is a prerequisite of programming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerd_Annhilator Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 ..What the hell is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det. Bart Lasiter Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 ..What the hell is this?Something about a game engine. I'm not sure why, I only read the posts after TiE23's post (including his). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dath Maximus Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Never said you were a n00b at game developing, said you were a n00b on the forums. There's a difference. And calling us jerks isn't very nice. It hurts our feelings it does. We simply stated that there wasn't much demand for modders here. And we also stated that if you were able to create your own game, that you obviously didn't need our help. With that whole....game engine of yours...that looks like it rivals pong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 you know your a jerk. so I cant type...at no time did I say that I was a pro. all I did was post in the best place I could think of...bt this community seems to be unfriendly and full of jerks. I am not a noob. I ahve been at game dev. since I was 13...I am a junior in college and almost have my BA in game dev. But I dont need to prove myself to you...the guy who likes to play games and spend his time being a forum rat! You probibly dont know the first thing about developing a game! Get over your self man...sheesh all you needed to say was move your post the this section and I would have...forget this place Ill just go to a place where people have brains and not one full of mouths! Asking a forum full of people who either don't mod, used to, or just do it for fun isn't a good way to find a team of creators. You need serious talent to make a game the scale of what you are talking about and non of us are interested. You should learn to mod for JO or HL2 and become very very very good at it before ever trying to create a game like this. This might interest you a little bit, but meh. http://www.devmaster.net/engines/list.php?start=0&order=overall_rating&ordertype=DESC Gotta love those n00b double posts. You're more likely to pick up actual bounty hunters at the swamp than modders. God dammit! My cover is blown, I gotta get---... Dath, where do you live? Final note: n321, you have really no idea where to start, just give up. You're only chance is to become a programming expert, make some arcade games, read books on programing and game development. Join a forum with like-minded people if there is one, and get involved. Also, learn to spell properly, just because this is the internet doesn't mean you can write like a 12 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 You made your request, but now the thread is going into flame-ville. The purpose of the thread is finished. If someone is interested, they'll contact you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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