stoffe Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I'm sorry, but the idea that Revan went down to...I dunno...Deralia Clothing Inc., and then took something off the peg is a bit...naff, IMO. So make him have it tailor-made to his specifications by a professional then? What's so wrong with that? Did George W Bush go on an epic quest to find his armani suit before he could take up office in the White House? Star Wars is not medieval fantasy, not everything needs to be theatrical. Why shouldn't Revan be able to sew? Soldiers need to be able to repair their own clothes in the field, I'd imagine. Presumably Revan did, too. Yes, but most soldiers don't manufacture their own uniforms from scratch in the field, or go digging through the tombs of Alexander the Great and other ancient warriors to find it, at least not in any military force I have heard of. re: underwear: Why? Nearly everything Pharaoh wore had a mystical significance... Well, there's the whole part of the Pharaoh being considered a god that might have something to do about that. As far as we know. The archaeologists can only make a qualified guess of what life was back then from writings and other accounts found from the time. Which may or may not present an accurate picture of how things actually were. A Sith Lord may have hubris as a class feature, but they usually don't consider themselves to be deities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Skywalker Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Ok, I'm sure this will settle it.......... NOT Revan made his own robe as an apprentice on Dantooine, He wore it as a Jedi General in the Mandalorian wars, and he wore it as a Sith Lord in the Jedi Civil War! Ok, please tell me that settled the dispute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Down Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 How did Revan get his MASK (It's a mask not an helmet!) Dun Dun Dun Dun ... *drum rolling* With his Happy Meal! - Ghost Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Skywalker Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 It's a mask not an helmet![/Quote] I already pointed that out, apparently you haven't been reading the thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 So make him have it tailor-made to his specifications by a professional then? What's so wrong with that? Did George W Bush go on an epic quest to find his armani suit before he could take up office in the White House? Star Wars is not medieval fantasy, not everything needs to be theatrical. Sorry, but yes it does! The entire Saga is OTT and theatrical. Lines like 'Young fool! Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Dark Side!' simply don't go with gritty realism . If you want that, go watch Blakes' 7 . George Bush is a president of a country, elected by the people. Revan was a tyrant, overlord of his dominions and got there by being the strongest, most cunning evil bastard around. He has to instil terror and fear. Something he pulled off the rack in a store down the road that anyone can ape just isn't going to do Yes, but most soldiers don't manufacture their own uniforms from scratch in the field, or go digging through the tombs of Alexander the Great and other ancient warriors to find it, at least not in any military force I have heard of. Maybe not, but Revan wasn't just a soldier, was he? My point was simply that it is perfectly possible that he knew how to use a needle and thread It isn't beyond the realm of possibility that Revan made the robes using the Star Forge (as you yourself do at the end of the game ) Besides, in the Star Wars Saga, it is quite clear that ancient and powerful artefacts are buried in tombs, and that people go grave-digging to get them. Well, there's the whole part of the Pharaoh being considered a god that might have something to do about that. As far as we know. The archaeologists can only make a qualified guess of what life was back then from writings and other accounts found from the time. Which may or may not present an accurate picture of how things actually were. Like all scientists, archaeologists can only go on what evidence there is. And there is quite substantial evidence for what life was like, not to mention quite a bit of writing from Egyptian history, most of which are either royal proclamations or other government announcements/etc or religious texts Also, while the Dark Lord may not be a living god, he is the supreme ruler of the Sith, commands respect and inspires terror in a way that is similar to that of Pharaoh as divine protector of the Two Lands. And ancient Sith culture and civilisation does seem to have been based in part on Egypt A Sith Lord may have hubris as a class feature, but they usually don't consider themselves to be deities. Well, there was Lord Vaskis the Mad....And Drexvor the Unmentionable...And Bolax the Deaf... @RedHawke: True, but from Czerka or somesuch? Would the Dark Lord trust a corporation with something like that? If he did, it would have been made by some elderly craftsman somewhere, who would have been killed almost immediately afterwards, IMO Besides - you are Dark Lord. You can trust no-one. Why then break your own basic rules of survival and entrust the creation of your armour to someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Sorry, but yes it does! The entire Saga is OTT and theatrical. Lines like 'Young fool! Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the Dark Side!' simply don't go with gritty realism . If you want that, go watch Blakes' 7 Note that I said not everything (and not nothing), which doesn't imply there are no theatrics in the Star Wars saga, there obviously are. But taking every tiny mundane detail and trying to give it some grand significance or meaning doesn't quite fit the setting, in my opinion. George Bush is a president of a country, elected by the people. Revan was a tyrant, overlord of his dominions and got there by being the strongest, most cunning evil bastard around. He has to instil terror and fear. Something he pulled off the rack in a store down the road that anyone can ape just isn't going to do Revan became the leader of the Sith Empire, not by election but by virtue of founding it. And as seen by the story in KotOR he wore that outfit before he found the Star Forge or became the Dark Lord of the Sith "officially". During the war he was an acting Grand Admiral for the Republic acting on mandate from the senate to stop the Mandalorian aggression. I think it takes more than grey/brown robes and an ugly mask to terrify and instill fear in Mandalorian warriors, really. (Though it might work in a similar way as a token of recognition, if they see someone dressed like that they know it's Revan, the worthy opponent who's turned the fortunes of war against them.) Besides, the story hints more at Darth Revan ruling his minions by charisma, persuasion and force of personality than by fear. The latter seems to more be Malak's thing. (Though of course the Republic feared him since he was crushing their forces and conquering their worlds.) The story hints that the ways Revan and Malak ran the Sith empire were vastly different. Maybe not, but Revan wasn't just a soldier, was he? My point was simply that it is perfectly possible that he knew how to use a needle and thread So, do four-star generals and admirals create their own uniforms in the field then? I'm not denying that Revan might have been as skilled with needle and thread (and whatever metal/plastic casting techniques required to make the mask and body armor parts by hand) as with a lightsaber. I'm merely saying that there would be no point in making his clothes himself when he could just commission them from someone who makes a living manufacturing such things, which likely would result in better quality of the craftsmanship and less time wasted. It isn't beyond the realm of possibility that Revan made the robes using the Star Forge (as you yourself do at the end of the game ) No, of course not. But it is beyond the realm of possibility that he didn't have an attire that looked exactly the same as the one created by the starforge before that, since the story shows him wearing identical robes and mask while still looking for the Star Forge. If he liked the look of that attire then it stands to reason he'd make the star forge create a new set that looked identical but was force powered or whatever nonsense the EU allows you to empower mundane items with. Besides, in the Star Wars Saga, it is quite clear that ancient and powerful artefacts are buried in tombs, and that people go grave-digging to get them. Is it? I can't remember a single instance of tomb raiding in any of the six movies, though perhaps my memory fails me. Nor does special significance seem to be attributed to any object aside from a Jedi's lightsaber. Like all scientists, archaeologists can only go on what evidence there is. And there is quite substantial evidence for what life was like, not to mention quite a bit of writing from Egyptian history, most of which are either royal proclamations or other government announcements/etc or religious texts Then you have to weigh in whether you should take what you read at face value, or whether fiction, storytelling and myths existed back then as well. If some archeologist 6000 years from now would unearth a copy of the Star Wars trilogy books with the cover and a few select pages missing it would offer a rather interesting record of events transpiring during the apparently spacefaring mixed human and alien civilization that seems to have existed thousands of years before but apparently collapsed during a Dark Age or some such. *Ahem*... where were we? Right, Sith Lord outfits. Also, while the Dark Lord may not be a living god, he is the supreme ruler of the Sith, commands respect and inspires terror in a way that is similar to that of Pharaoh as divine protector of the Two Lands. And ancient Sith culture and civilisation does seem to have been based in part on Egypt Or like Saddam Hussein did with his 99.6% approval rating and all during his prime, right? That doesn't make him a god in the eyes of his cowed people, just someone you're better off not to cross, and might be better off sucking up to. There is nothing in Sith mysticism as far as I know that stipulates the Dark Lord be considered a deity, nor any rules describing what a Sith Lord must wear and how such articles of clothing must be acquired. Besides - you are Dark Lord. You can trust no-one. Why then break your own basic rules of survival and entrust the creation of your armour to someone else? Because you weren't the Dark Lord when said armored robe was first made and worn, but a maverick Jedi fighting for the Republic in a war against the Mandalorians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kas'!m Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 How did revan get his helmet? Im writing a short fic about the battle on Malachor V and I'm going to include how Revan get it. Does any one know? Thanks I always thought he got it from the star forge but he had the mask and the robes before the star forge so I dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK-42 Posted November 25, 2006 Author Share Posted November 25, 2006 i got on Kotor and looked at my vacuum mask. It is indeed the same kind of mask revan had but his is a different color. All we need to know is how or where he got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Note that I said not everything (and not nothing), which doesn't imply there are no theatrics in the Star Wars saga, there obviously are. But taking every tiny mundane detail and trying to give it some grand significance or meaning doesn't quite fit the setting, in my opinion. Maybe not, but this is an epic, and reality and epics don't always meet. Star Wars is especially bad at reality, it must be said, and also, getting clothes off the peg would diminish his uniqueness. Revan became the leader of the Sith Empire, not by election but by virtue of founding it. And as seen by the story in KotOR he wore that outfit before he found the Star Forge or became the Dark Lord of the Sith "officially". During the war he was an acting Grand Admiral for the Republic acting on mandate from the senate to stop the Mandalorian aggression. I think it takes more than grey/brown robes and an ugly mask to terrify and instill fear in Mandalorian warriors, really. Did he found it? I thought he took an ailing and crippled empire and strengthened an infrastructure already there. At least, that's the impression I got from KotOR. While you are right that the armour was not the sole reason for his reputation etc, it must have helped to mark him out on the battlefield and also to make him seem more of a mysterious figure to his enemies. And mysteries worry people. Besides, the story hints more at Darth Revan ruling his minions by charisma and force of personality than by fear. The latter seems to more be Malak's thing. (Though of course the Republic feared him since he was crushing their forces and conquering their worlds.) True, so why is the image of him making his own robes and thus removing some of his 'scariness' so important? If he ruled by charisma then it wouldn't matter if he used a sewing machine or not, since his minions would support him anyway So, do four-star generals and admirals create their own uniforms in the field then? So, do Jedi all go to the same tailor on Coruscant, then? I'm not denying that Revan might have been as skilled with needle and thread (and whatever metal/plastic casting techniques required to make the mask and body armor parts by hand) as with a lightsaber. I'm merely saying that there would be no point in making his clothes himself when he could just commission them from someone who makes a living manufacturing such things, which likely would result in better quality of the craftsmanship and less time wasted. Maybe so, but aren't Jedi (see below) meant to have no money and few possessions? Therefore any robes have to be made themselves or by the Order, at the expense of the Order, as I understand it. Now, would the Jedi Order really approve of robes like Revan's? I think not No, of course not. But it is beyond the realm of possibility that he didn't have an attire that looked exactly the same as the one created by the starforge before that, since the story shows him wearing identical robes and mask while still looking for the Star Forge. If he liked the look of that attire then it stands to reason he'd make the star forge create a new set that looked identical but was force powered or whatever nonsense the EU allows you to empower mundane items with. True, I had forgotten about the cutscene on Dantooine et al. But when we see Revan looking for the Star Forge, he is quite clearly on the path to darkness already, and willing to reject the order for the power of the Star Forge, as the lack-of-conversation with Malak shows Is it? I can't remember a single instance of tomb raiding in any of the six movies, though perhaps my memory fails me. Nor does special significance seem to be attributed to any object aside from a Jedi's lightsaber. So only the films count? Then you have to weigh in whether you should take what you read at face value, or whether fiction, storytelling and myths existed back then as well. If some archeologist 6000 years from now would unearth a copy of the Star Wars trilogy books with the cover and a few select pages missing it would offer a rather interesting record of events transpiring during the apparently spacefaring mixed human and alien civilization that seems to have existed thousands of years before but apparently collapsed during a Dark Age or some such. The alien archaeologist in 6000 years will also be able to look at fossil records, human remains, the remains of our technology, architecture, art, literature and music and it won't take him long to work out that Star Wars is fiction It is true that the Egyptians tended to make no delineation between 'actual' events and purely mystical or ceremonial events, but one can usually tell the difference Also, works of literature don't tend to be put on giant slabs of stone masquerading as government proclamations *Ahem*... where were we? Right, Sith Lord outfits. Yes. BTW, any thoughts on the Sith Lord outfit(s) in TSL? Some people think they're too thin, but I think they'd look quite good as a new robe set...? Or like Saddam Hussein did with his 99.6% approval rating and all during his prime, right? That doesn't make him a god in the eyes of his cowed people, just someone you're better off not to cross, and might be better off sucking up to. There is nothing in Sith mysticism as far as I know that stipulates the Dark Lord be considered a deity, nor any rules describing what a Sith Lord must wear and how such articles of clothing must be acquired. Perhaps not, but we know so little of Sith civilisation . I am hypothesising based on what we do know . Granted, this is purely theoretical and entirely without foundation, but it seems unlikely to me that the Dark Lord would have a tailor shop It's rather like the idea of 'Lightsabres 'R' Us' on Korriban/Ossus/Tython, IMO. Because you weren't the Dark Lord when said armored robe was first made and worn, but a maverick Jedi fighting for the Republic in a war against the Mandalorians. Did he create them in the Mandalorian Wars? And I always got the impression that he and Malak were barely Jedi Knights at all at the time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kas'!m Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Maybe not, but this is an epic, and reality and epics don't always meet. Star Wars is especially bad at reality, it must be said, and also, getting clothes off the peg would diminish his uniqueness. Did he found it? I thought he took an ailing and crippled empire and strengthened an infrastructure already there. At least, that's the impression I got from KotOR. While you are right that the armour was not the sole reason for his reputation etc, it must have helped to mark him out on the battlefield and also to make him seem more of a mysterious figure to his enemies. And mysteries worry people. True, so why is the image of him making his own robes and thus removing some of his 'scariness' so important? If he ruled by charisma then it wouldn't matter if he used a sewing machine or not, since his minions would support him anyway So, do Jedi all go to the same tailor on Coruscant, then? Maybe so, but aren't Jedi (see below) meant to have no money and few possessions? Therefore any robes have to be made themselves or by the Order, at the expense of the Order, as I understand it. Now, would the Jedi Order really approve of robes like Revan's? I think not True, I had forgotten about the cutscene on Dantooine et al. But when we see Revan looking for the Star Forge, he is quite clearly on the path to darkness already, and willing to reject the order for the power of the Star Forge, as the lack-of-conversation with Malak shows So only the films count? The alien archaeologist in 6000 years will also be able to look at fossil records, human remains, the remains of our technology, architecture, art, literature and music and it won't take him long to work out that Star Wars is fiction It is true that the Egyptians tended to make no delineation between 'actual' events and purely mystical or ceremonial events, but one can usually tell the difference Also, works of literature don't tend to be put on giant slabs of stone masquerading as government proclamations Yes. BTW, any thoughts on the Sith Lord outfit(s) in TSL? Some people think they're too thin, but I think they'd look quite good as a new robe set...? Perhaps not, but we know so little of Sith civilisation . I am hypothesising based on what we do know . Granted, this is purely theoretical and entirely without foundation, but it seems unlikely to me that the Dark Lord would have a tailor shop It's rather like the idea of 'Lightsabres 'R' Us' on Korriban/Ossus/Tython, IMO. Did he create them in the Mandalorian Wars? And I always got the impression that he and Malak were barely Jedi Knights at all at the time... Nah, Revan was a Jedi Master. At least that is what it says on the Chronciles from KOTOR 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Skywalker Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Revan was a Jedi Knight, he never reached the Rank of Master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Maybe not, but this is an epic, and reality and epics don't always meet. Star Wars is especially bad at reality, it must be said, and also, getting clothes off the peg would diminish his uniqueness. Who mentioned anything about realism? Certainly not me. Star Wars is an epic and that's part of its charm. I just dislike the concerted attempt by the EU to press Star Wars towards mainstream medieval fantasy. There are more than enough of those settings already, Star Wars does not need to become one as well. Let it keep its unique, low-magic flair that's mainly concerned with the overall picture and less so with explaining how every minute detail works and fits together. Did he found it? I thought he took an ailing and crippled empire and strengthened an infrastructure already there. At least, that's the impression I got from KotOR. As far as I can tell from playing the games Revan's sith organization was his own creation and has no connection at all to the "True Sith" that supposedly lurk at the edges of the galaxy other than the partially shared Sith ideology. Revan's empire was founded by the Republic fleet under his control and then bolstered by the Star Forge and captured or allied planets. I doubt every star system in the galaxy would oppose him, there are always opportunists who have no great love for the Republic and feel the change in the air and wants in early that will willingly subject themselves to the new order. While you are right that the armour was not the sole reason for his reputation etc, it must have helped to mark him out on the battlefield and also to make him seem more of a mysterious figure to his enemies. (snip) so why is the image of him making his own robes and thus removing some of his 'scariness' so important? And why would the armored robe and mask make him any more mysterious if he's created them with his own two hands, rather than have had them made for him by someone else? It's the same outfit regardless, and I doubt the enemy is going to check for the "Made in China" tag before they decide if they should be afraid of him or not. So, do Jedi all go to the same tailor on Coruscant, then? They most likely have a contractor they use to produce robes for their members since the Jedi is a fairly prominent organization where many dress in similar ways. But not all Jedi have identical robes, as said. Many wear robes of similar style, yes, but they are not clones of eachother. I doubt you are forbidden from having a personal taste just because you are a Jedi. Compare the attires of Anakin, Obi-Wan, the Jedi Librarian, Aayla Secura, Shaak-Ti. Some have similar themes, but most are still quite distinct. So why not add Revan to the bunch? Maybe so, but aren't Jedi (see below) meant to have no money and few possessions? Not as far as I know, I think that's buddhism, not Jedi. Now, would the Jedi Order really approve of robes like Revan's? I think not Care to motivate why you think not? I don't think it's any of the Order's business how it's members choose to dress themselves as long as they still get their work done. True the Jedi are a paramilitary order, but they don't appear to be uniformed, even though their mindset tends towards many of them wearing traditional robe-like attires with a brown hooded cloak that many associate with the Jedi. Remove the mask and body armor parts (which might be war-time additions anyway) and Revan's attire isn't really all that different. And in this particular case it hardly matters what the Order as a whole think since Revan had already defied the Jedi council by gathering followers and joining the Republic war effort again their will. His choice of clothing would be the least of their concerns in those circumstances. So only the films count? Not exclusively, but personally I put the most weight on them. There is too many traditional fantasy writers who write for the Star Wars EU as well who seem to have a notoriously hard time not including Trad-Fantasy elements I feel detract from the Star Wars setting as presented by the movies. But that's of course just my personal opinion that doesn't matter to anyone except myself. Also, works of literature don't tend to be put on giant slabs of stone masquerading as government proclamations Who's to say "art installations" is a new invention? Anyone who's litterate can carve whatever they wish into a stone slab and stash it somewhere. Doesn't mean that whatever they write is an accurate account of something that's actually happened. But this is a bit off-topic to discuss further here perhaps. Granted, this is purely theoretical and entirely without foundation, but it seems unlikely to me that the Dark Lord would have a tailor shop Is it? Can you picture Palpatine, High Chancellor of the Republic, Emperor of the First Galactic Empire and Dark Lord of the Sith sitting in his chambers weaving his own garbs while plotting galactic domination? I'd say it's a lot more fitting if he's commissioned them from some skilled craftsman. Does he construct his own flagship cruiser as well just to make sure it's done properly and is made exactly to his specifications and doesn't contain any weaknesses? Does he build the imperial palace with his own hands to ensure it's done just as he wants it? I don't really get the "The leader must do everything himself" mindset here. How many of the great warrior kings and other leaders throughout human history and various epic fantasy tales craft their own royal garbs, weapons and armor? Not very many I can think of. They are kings, leaders, not blacksmiths and tailors. They can make field repairs as needed, but they are not master craftsmen. Leave that to those who have dedicated their lives to the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Devon Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Where does the game say that the robes Darth Revan wore were created at the Star Forge, other than in a single item description that conflicts with the rest of the story of the game? As I don't think Revan could have worn that exact outfit during the Mandalorian Wars, it's the only option. And even if a Revan robe was created on the Star Forge that doesn't preclude that Revan had a similar-looking attire already earlier and only made a more high-quality version of them at the SF that looked the same. What do you mean by more "high-quality"? Then why would Revan wear the exact same clothes permanently? That doesn't tie in to his attire. As the Star Forge could produce thousands of ships, I think it could manage a wardrobe's worth of robes. Darth Revan's attire was an armored robe. The thing the Star Forge plops out for you near the end of the game is most definitely a dress. It's a robe, darn it. There's a difference. So what does make clothing "Sith-ish"? Usually it involves black/dark cloaks, robes, armor, spikes, etc. Can you point out a single Sith Lord in recent memory (that the people of the era would remember) before Revan rose to power that was dressed in a similar manner? Yep. http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/6/6a/Exarkun.jpg http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/2/23/Ajuntaspirit.jpg http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/9/94/Funeral.jpg http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/a/ab/Freedon_Nadd_Headshot.JPG After all if you look at the movies there is a rather distinct difference between the attires of, say, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Aayla Secura, both of whom are Jedi. Just like Sith Lords can have a personal taste in clothing so can Jedi. The Jedi make exceptions for various cultures, but they're paranoid over Sith clothing. The Jedi won't need to get a job to earn money, since they technically work for the Jedi order and are provided what money they need through them. The Jedi are like monks when it comes to money. All their basic needs are already provided for. Call me a purist but there is nothing in the movies that even hints at such things, and that is why I tend to stay away from the EU except for a few games. I can think of a few things. One example would be in ESB, when Luke slashes his lightsaber against Vader's arm - whether it was durasteel or not, a blade of pure energy should be more than sufficient to cut through it. If we're just discussing the games, there are more examples there. Look at Atris' holocrons, for instance - those were definitely artifacts of the dark side. Or there's how how Korriban and Rakata Prime were strong in the dark side. If places, people, and lightsaber crystals can be strong in the Force, there's no logical reason why armor or robes scouldn't. This isn't the Dark Ages, there is a whole industrialized galaxy that specializes in manufacturing all things so you won't have to do everything yourself. That's right. It doesn't mean hand-made items are obsolete, though. Besides, imagine to your inner eye Malak sitting in front of a sewing machine carefully crafting his red body tights attire he wears as a Sith Lord? Is that the kind of imagery you want to think of every time you see a Sith Lord? Thanks a lot. I play in a history re-enactment group from time to time, and they use 'armor' in their 'fighting'. Some of them never wash it. After a few months (let alone years), the armor reeks and practically can stand up on its own. Way too much info there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kas'!m Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Revan was a Jedi Knight, he never reached the Rank of Master. Part IX: Darth Revan Rising Time frame: 3,963 B.B.Y. Period name: Knights of the Old Republic It is a period of turmoil in the Galaxy. The fierce Mandalorian warrior race begins the MANDALORIAN WAR by viciously and simultaneously attacking three quadrants of Republic space. As the battle rages on, Jedi Master REVAN moves surreptitiously between unknown sectors, scouting for potential strongholds to withstand the attacks. He soon discovers the shadowy Malachor V, a planet listed by Mandalorian scholars as "forbidden" to step foot on. The reason for this so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Skywalker Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Replay the game it says Revan only reached the level Knight.... and everyone calls Jedi's Jedi Masters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoffe Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Part IX: Darth Revan Rising Time frame: 3,963 B.B.Y. Period name: Knights of the Old Republic It is a period of turmoil in the Galaxy. (snip) Personally I don't pay too much heed to any of those short stories since they contradict the plot in both KotOR games on so many points it isn't even funny. It's quite obvious that whoever wrote those were not involved with writing the storylines for either of of the KotOR games, and they can't have been paying too much attention while playing (if they've even played the game at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedHawke Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 @RedHawke: True, but from Czerka or somesuch? Would the Dark Lord trust a corporation with something like that? If he did, it would have been made by some elderly craftsman somewhere, who would have been killed almost immediately afterwards, IMO Who needs a corperation? Fabricator Droids exist even in the time of KotOR and just like any Machine Shop around today does custom work on just about anything you want. They can make anything to-order for you and even relinquish the blueprints to you afterward. Almost every main-line capital ship has a shop like this, so Revan could have had the Armored Robes and mask made at any time, going to a planet may have not even been necissary. Besides - you are Dark Lord. You can trust no-one. Why then break your own basic rules of survival and entrust the creation of your armour to someone else? Sure, why not? If you want the best equipment you get the best equipment maker to make your stuff. Simple concept really. It isn't some 'super-secret' thing you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Although I don't think Revan wore that specific outfit during the Mandalorian Wars, I found an explanation I like about the matter somewhere else, in which people from Deralia considered it a taboo to show their faces. I find it interesting that well over half the people here think Revan is from Deralia. It is indeed where he said where he was from. Bearing in mind that he had previously been mind-wiped by the Jedi... i never took Revans words too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakin Skywalker Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I find it interesting that well over half the people here think Revan is from Deralia. It is indeed where he said where he was from. Bearing in mind that he had previously been mind-wiped by the Jedi... i never took Revans words too seriously. Seriously in the second game Kriea said and I quote, "Revan had a mother, a father like all Jedi do, some say he was born in the Unknown Regions, so what called to him in the Mandalorian Wars was home, It was the call of Home." Deralia is in the Republic so it must be in known space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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