Darth Badguy Posted March 3, 2007 Share Posted March 3, 2007 In my opinion, the execution of order 66 was really really bad. The clones could have done it without any losses and even Yoda and Obi One could have been killed. Take Ki Adi Mundu. The clones get Order 66 and what do they do? They go stand behind him and reload, one by one. I mean, wtf? They could have reloaded a long time before and if they had to reload now, reload together, not one after the other... even a gungan could have taken some clones with him now... And what about obi-one? Instead of using a large group of snipers to take him down and some heavy troopers with bazookas to fisnih it, COdy decides to take ONE, SINGLE heavy trooper!!! Why? In the battle of Utapau there were THOUSANDS of clones... Yoda at last. A clone trooper walks toward a Scout Trooper to tell him "Let's kill Yoda". A Scout Trooper. He has a damn sniperrifle!!! And what do they doe? They walk towards Yoda and stop one meter behind him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSI Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 If Yoda and Obi-wan Died, then there would be no Epi. 4,5,and 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Badguy Posted March 4, 2007 Author Share Posted March 4, 2007 *Sigh*, I know that, I'm just telling you that the clone troppers sucked in order 66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Indeed they did. I also think the Jedi sucked, a lifetime of training and they go down from a few blaster shots? meh. But the movie is done, so you just have to live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted March 4, 2007 Share Posted March 4, 2007 Well, Actually they could have it done with more finesse. Well they should have sent a whole bunch of rpgs at Obi Wan instead of one, ince rpg might be a bit better with no saber deflection(though force push would work) Obviously a mix of rpg and sniper simotaneous attack would have solved the problem. Though obviously a too perfect 66 scheme on survivable characters would be bad. As for yoda, at least they should have given the effort to use sniper rifles. It is ok if they get deflect killed, but it would make both clones and yoda look cooler. As for Vos, that is a more reasonable one, I mean they try to search and kill him carefully. Secura... what a waste of a hot twi'lek body, they should have used a more gentle way of termination, so did offee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Badguy Posted March 5, 2007 Author Share Posted March 5, 2007 Vos? I can't remember seeing him die in the movie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Vos didn't die, and he wasn't in the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDoe 2.0 Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Read the STAR WARS: CLONE WARS VOLUME 9: ENDGAME to see how Vos escaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Vos is "mentioned" in the movie, and the battle he is mentioned in... OMG that is one of the coolest star wars battle. Oh the related episodes are first in Star Wars Republic 81-83 Hidden loyalties. Oh the Inferno is there also, yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Didn't one source say he was torn apart by an explosion? That got retconned so he could survive. It's the EU, go figure... in Episode III we just got a mention of a "Master Vos." No explanation given for who his is or what happens to him (I just presumed he died with all the other Jedi aside from Obi-Wan, Yoda and Vader, via Order 66 and the immediate aftermath). And now apparently Shaak Ti is alive too, despite the fact that we have two different accounts of her death (neither seen in the movie; in one Grievous executes her on the Invisible Hand, in another she's at the temple and Anakin catches her off guard and kills her). All of these "lost Jedi" have to survive the purge of course, to give the EU fodder to keep going. Of course before the prequels were made, they had these dozens of Jedi that had survived, that we never heard of (and were never mentioned in any of the movies). It's just because the writers (and apparently the readers) want to hear about all this Jedi stuff, and it's hard to do that if they're all dead except for the two in hiding we know about (and the one turncoat who now works for the Emperor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Actually the Source of him being killed is the same source about him surviving the explosion in wookieeworld. He survived the explosion, managed to evade/terminate the clones(he hates them) hunting him while heavily wounded, and met up with his son and wife, and the ninja jedi couple with the help of an Inferno demon. The same episode also confirms the death of Luminara. Note that Vos survived using both Jedi and Sith ways, as he claimed, he is going to be with his slut(ex slut) whatever way it takes, be it light or dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylilin Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Speaking of Quinlan Vos, there is speculation that he will play a part in the live action Star Wars TV show coming in a few years. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDoe 2.0 Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 Yeah, I think I have seen that someplace else, if its true, then I hope the actor who plays him portrays him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawathehutt Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Indeed they did. I also think the Jedi sucked, a lifetime of training and they go down from a few blaster shots? meh. But the movie is done, so you just have to live with it. Thats like saying that SEALs suck if they get shot. True they spend tons of time training, but if you get shot repeatedly, theres a very high chance your going to die, training or none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedak Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 But the movie is done, so you just have to live with it. I wonder if GL knows that the prequels aren’t very good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurrassco Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 And what about obi-one? Instead of using a large group of snipers to take him down and some heavy troopers with bazookas to fisnih it, COdy decides to take ONE, SINGLE heavy trooper!!! Why? In the battle of Utapau there were THOUSANDS of clones... well, acually, the didn't use a heavy trooper at all. it was an AT-TE. Cody probably thought that an AT-TE could handle a Jedi Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 Well, I think the AT-TE failed to kill any jedi knights. If I remember right they try to kill Vos with a AT-TE cannon also while he is on top of a dreadnought. NOTE: Dreadnaught is a vehicle, not a walking robot-like armor thingy with a deadish person inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Badguy Posted March 25, 2007 Author Share Posted March 25, 2007 Dreadnought is also a star-destroyer-sized spaceship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman65 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I wonder if GL knows that the prequels aren’t very good... What are you talking aobut. I love the PT just as much as the OT. Infact I see them as one movie not at 6 movies. The PT is great but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 What are you talking aobut. I love the PT just as much as the OT. Infact I see them as one movie not at 6 movies. The PT is great but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I completely agree, all the movies are the Star Wars saga and I don't see how people can hate one half of it but love the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman65 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Yeah Its strange. But mah some people are SW fans and others like me and MC are true SW fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Well, I basically like both OT and PT. Obviously there are parts I don't like about some of the movies either due to acting(you know what I mean) and scripts(OP love dialogue etc) or overexposure of some characters(couple jarjar scenes), but basically I like all parts of the saga. Oh yeah that includes many of the EU moments too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomberman65 Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 What we're saying is if you like the OT more than the PT then your not a true fan. You have to like them both the same. I mean you can have your gripes about both trilogys but you still have to like both the same to be a true SW fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Define "the same:? I like both relatively the same. Star Wars is one big movie divided in 6 parts(and some EU) But obviously there are episodes and sections that someone like more. I mean, even for pure OT fans many of them would have a fav(like ESB) Oh, anyont think that good old orbital bombardment would be a better way to finish off some of the jedis? Sure you might kill some clones, but it might work better. Obviously I would also suggest some nice biochemical weaponary, but I doubt the clones would be equipped with those at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatekeeper6838 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 I think the prequel trilogy just wasn't pulled off right, period. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy those movies. In fact, I jumped on the bandwagon when I saw Episode II and III and said that I almost enjoyed them as much as the original movies. It wasn't until I actually sat down and watched them all in order, on DVD in all their widescreen glory that I realized how much worse the prequels are. In fact, I've watched all 6 movies several times in order over the last year or so, and the more I watch them, the more I feel the originals are superior. My biggest problem looking back on the prequels is that they just aren't believable. What the original movies had was realism and subtlety, everything from the real locations they were filmed at to the ingenious designs of the spacecraft. Even the love between Han and Leia was far more subtle and believable than Anakin and Padme's relationship, which seemed a little to forced and over the top. Sure, this is a sci-fi series, but it was a world (or, should I say galaxy) that we could easily relate to our own. Flight maneuvers in the space battles were patterned after real World War II dogfights. The imperials seemed like a real world empire, reminiscent of Rome or Germany. They were a much more believable (and menacing) enemy than the awful, bumbling, laughable trade federation with their cartoony (and just plain annoying) battle droids. That brings me to my next point. Although the prequels have neat special effects, it seems so much more childish and cartoon like. I am aware that children are one of Star War's chief audiences, but it was as if I, II and III tried to appeal to much to kids and not enough to older audiences. In the original movies, sure, there were things that were obviously meant for a younger audience, but it also had a very serious atmosphere throughout the film. If you think about it, most of the creatures and robots in the prequels are a joke and can hardly be taken seriously at all. I think it's okay to have a few goofy characters in even serious movies, but I, II and III are chock full of them whereas the original movies only had a handful, and their goofiness was subtle . My final complaint revolves around the plot holes the prequels generated. In my opinion, there are too many inconsistencies with the references made in the original movies compared to what actually happens in the prequels. Anyway, that's my two cents. And, like I said, I still enjoy the prequels and even go as far as to say they're great movies. They're just not great Star Wars movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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