Negative Sun Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Clicky What's the verdict? Even though it is a total Hollywood franchise milking job, and that trailer theme is way past its expiration date, I still say Yay! Just cause John McClane is Willis' best role ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Bleh. The trailer looks like something for the Blade franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Yippee-ki-yay, mother****er. I like the Die Hard movies and I'm going to watch this one with a positive attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Jones Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Die Hard 1 has yet to be beaten by one of its sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 Die Hard 3 came quite close though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henz Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I'll watch it. Somehow the most annoying thng about it is Bruce's lack of hair though lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!! \o/ I think thats all I need to say. hehe and this. And that... And that... And that... (lol family guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montnoir Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Die Hard 3 came quite close though... *sigh* kids of today *shakes head* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 forgive me for not seeing the other die hard movies, aside from some of 1 i think when it was on tv? but die hard 4 looks pretty cool, from the trailer anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Hmmm...although the trailar was lame, the last part rocked! "Why did you bring a cop into my command center?" "Hahaha, command center. It's a BASEMENT!" It'll rock. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montnoir Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 forgive me for not seeing the other die hard movies... It is an unforgivable sin, now cleanse yourself by committing seppuku! NOW! The trailer looked more like "Bad Boys" than "Die Hard". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargoyle King Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I ain't gonna lie - i love the DIE HARD films; i personally see them as Bruce's best in terms of his acting ability. BUT DIE HARD 4?! It seems a bit pointless to me as a whole, maybe its just another cash-in for that conglomerate of a film industry Hollywood. I have nothing against sequels but to me these sort of films are spouting out far too often with ageing actors trying to play a part that was only suited to them at a younger age, examples; (1). This one. (2). Sylvester Stallone as the infamous Rocky in ROCKY BALBOA. (3). And of course, there is Harrison Ford reportedly being involved in INDIANA JONES 4. They are all spectacular actors in their own right, but maybe they are just getting too old for these types of roles - anyway does anyone else have any thoughts regarding this? Oh and yeah, (quote) Die Hard 1 has yet to be beaten by one of its sequels (unquote)* Well DH 2&3 tried, but failed - i doubt it will be any different for number 4 *sorry - but i don't know how to quote properly yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Personally, I think Bruce only did good acting in Die Hard movies. There might be a few others, but I cant think of them right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 he did alright in tears of the sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargoyle King Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Personally, I think Bruce only did good acting in Die Hard movies. There might be a few others, but I cant think of them right now. You make an interesting debate, Aash Li; but Bruce is a very diverse actor - other films i feel he was superb in are "The Sixth Sense" and "Tears of the Sun" - however his best performance was probably in the Die Hard Series. I feel that veteran actors such as Bruce Willis are of a dying breed - there is too much young blood in the industry, with "actors" such as Lyndsey Lohan and Reese Witherspoon clogging up what would be a respectable Hollywood; We should hail to the veteran greats such as Willis, Samuel Jackson and Harrison Ford and focus less on some of these newer acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I count Fifth Element as one of my guilty pleasures. He did pretty good in 12 Monkeys and Pulp Fiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargoyle King Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I count Fifth Element as one of my guilty pleasures. He did pretty good in 12 Monkeys and Pulp Fiction. Hmm.. "12 Monkeys" maybe, but compared to Samuel L. Jackson and John Travolta i feel his role in "Pulp Fiction" was debatable. I can't say i ever liked "The Fifth Element" though, i feel the film tried too hard as a whole to be enjoyable - still everyone's entitled to an opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achilles Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I said "pretty good" not "great" Fifth Element isn't the type of movie that I would normally watch, let alone enjoy, but for whatever reason, I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I like Bruce in 5th element... its one of those movies so bad and cheesy it was fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I feel that veteran actors such as Bruce Willis are of a dying breed - there is too much young blood in the industry, with "actors" such as Lyndsey Lohan and Reese Witherspoon clogging up what would be a respectable Hollywood; We should hail to the veteran greats such as Willis, Samuel Jackson and Harrison Ford and focus less on some of these newer acts. Okay...ummm...How are Lindsay Lohan and Reese Witherspoon taking the spots of Bruce Willis? Because they're men with lots of testosterone playing in guy movies? Fifth Element isn't the type of movie that I would normally watch, let alone enjoy, but for whatever reason, I do. Naked Mila Jovovich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargoyle King Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 Okay...ummm...How are Lindsay Lohan and Reese Witherspoon taking the spots of Bruce Willis? Because they're men with lots of testosterone playing in guy movies? Not at all, i just feel that too many kids these days are focusing on newer actors and are forgetting the acting abilities of more veteran actors. There is more to the film industry than just action movies, but my point basically was that i feel that alot of these newer films - especially those Rom-Coms that are overcrowding the industry and turning it into a cliche; i'm sorry if my expression was misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 It was a very bad example (probably should have used male actors as an example), but I think you're inherently wrong in saying that today, we, movie consumers forget the acting talent of veterans. In fact, if I was 80, I'd say that you're all forgetting Jimmy Stewart, Gregory Peck or Charlton Heston. There was plenty of crappy movies that submerged the market back in the days of Bruce Willis or as far as Stewart. You just don't hear about them. It may seem like there's more today, but I don't believe that to be true. It's just that you live in this period and it feels that way. If you lived in the 80's, I'm certain you'd feel the same way. As for romantic comedies, it's just because most of them have no innovation. They use the exact same mold over and over again, without actually adding to it. Changes are incredibly superficial. There's also Hugh Grant that's in every one of them so...The days of Sleepless in Seattle or When Harry met Sally are long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargoyle King Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 It was a very bad example (probably should have used male actors as an example), but I think you're inherently wrong in saying that today, we, movie consumers forget the acting talent of veterans. In fact, if I was 80, I'd say that you're all forgetting Jimmy Stewart, Gregory Peck or Charlton Heston. There was plenty of crappy movies that submerged the market back in the days of Bruce Willis or as far as Stewart. You just don't hear about them. It may seem like there's more today, but I don't believe that to be true. It's just that you live in this period and it feels that way. If you lived in the 80's, I'm certain you'd feel the same way. As for romantic comedies, it's just because most of them have no innovation. They use the exact same mold over and over again, without actually adding to it. Changes are incredibly superficial. There's also Hugh Grant that's in every one of them so...The days of Sleepless in Seattle or When Harry met Sally are long gone. Yeah, was a bad example - just the first that popped into my head! You are right in this - James Stewart is definately classic Hollywood, still one of the best to ever be brought to stardom through the the old Hollywood Studio System. The reason i say that the movie industry is turning into a cliche is that there are so many movies coming out very often these days that have no creativity or innovation. Take the Horror genre for example, apart from those rare examples of today that are actually quite enjoyable, (such as Rob Zombie's "The Devil's Rejects") most of these films just aren't as shocking or enjoyable as some of the better classics (great examples being Alfred Hitchcock's 1960 "Psycho" or the original "Texas Chainsaw" trilogy in the 1970s). It's this very reason that that I tend to focus more on indie or foreign film as i have lost interest in Hollywood as a modern film industry. The Rom-Com genre, in my opinion is a dead one until developers start moving away from the common tradition of building upon past successes such as "Four Weddings and a Funeral", a company i feel guilty of doing so probably being Working Title. The genre has to be re-invented if anything original is to come our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 It was a very bad example (probably should have used male actors as an example), but I think you're inherently wrong in saying that today, we, movie consumers forget the acting talent of veterans. In fact, if I was 80, I'd say that you're all forgetting Jimmy Stewart, Gregory Peck or Charlton Heston. Ouch. I know Im old but really... 80? O.o Peck did lots of stuff in the 80s, most notably the A-team. Charlston Heston... ok Ill give you the 80 crack, since hes about in that age range now. Jimmy Stewart (Im related to him distantly), I loved some of his movies, but they were all reruns and 'classics' when I was a kid. I think what the one person was getting at was theres too much slop being produced with hacktresses and hacktors, and nothing really good. With some notable exceptions. Of course, this maybe because Im old enough to be the parent of Lohan and whoever the other smarmy rehab wannabe is. Wheres my cane! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Ouch. I know Im old but really... 80 I just threw a random number off the top of my head. It just meant that if I was really old hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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