Diego Varen Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 If they can get In to that place a couple times, then they can get into it again somehow... its Dr Who after all... Id just like to see whats happened to her. A Rose spinoff wouldnt be that good I dont think, besides we dont need another dr who related show. Well, it wasn't going to be a series spinoff, but just a one off special that was going to be written and planned for May Day back in 2006 by Russell, but it didn't get any further than planning stage. And I agree that there shouldn't be another Doctor Who related show, until Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures have finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 I got the impression it may have either been something to do with the Doctor's hand being there, the Master knows how to 'hack' a Tardis, or the very beginning of the next episode will see the blue box immediately return to where it was and spit the baddie back out again. He just sets the controls, though...There's no 'hacking' going on, except maybe the Doctor's use of the Sonic Screwdriver (does RNT have no originality?) Besides, it's an intelligent machine...I suspect, rather, the Doctor will fix Jack's magic armband... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Suppose it depends how you define hacking. I've got a region 2 DVD player I 'hacked' into being a multiregional one (so I can player foreign DVDs). All I had to do was use the remote to enter a certain twelve digit or so code that would unlock the ability. Maybe there's something similar you can do with the TARDIS consoles. Or, maybe the Master whispered sweet nothings into the heart of the TARDIS, the TARDIS went 'Ooh, the Doctor never talks to me like that', then it just became putty in his hands. Whichever. Actually, extra question while I'm here : Did people like John Simm's portrayal? Anyone think he was too OTT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Actually, extra question while I'm here : Did people like John Simm's portrayal? Anyone thing he was too OTT? John Simm was good in Life on Mars, so he should be good in Doctor Who, unless he pulls out like he did for Life on Mars. He was over the top, but so was David Tennant if I remember correctly. Regeneration does have that effect on Time Lords and in the classic series (which I'm not collecting), some of the past Doctors have had different side effects from regenerating. Although I hope John's portrayal will calm down soon. He is supposed to be evil after all. Also Trex, will you make a new Sig for The Master (Mr Saxon)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Also Trex, will you make a new Sig for The Master (Mr Saxon)? Lol. I've already started collecting screencaps this morning. Not too sure what I'll do, but feel free to borrow it once I'm done. As for Simm, he did seem a little calmer in the next episode trailer didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Lol. I've already started collecting screencaps this morning. Not too sure what I'll do, but feel free to borrow it once I'm done. As for Simm, he did seem a little calmer in the next episode trailer didn't he? Yes, he does, but I still think he is slightly hyper in the next episode. I doubt this will happen, but a whole Doctor Who episode with just the Master, since the Doctor, Martha and Jack weren't shown in the upcoming trailer. What would that be like? And thanks for letting me borrow any upcoming Sigs Trex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Dando Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 @Dando: The isomorphism seems to come and go, but it was a somewhat odd thing. I mean, you'd think that the TARDIS would recognise the Doctor's old enemy... I thought that he would have at least had a hard time trying to work it. The Doctor seems to have added so many bits and bobs to the console that it's pretty much a bespoke TARDIS now, tailored to his own unique specification. Meh I don't know. But anyway, I thought the episode itself was friggin fantastic. I won't comment much on the actual story itself though since I don't think there was much of a one. This was all about the characters, the Doctor and Jack's relationship, and the reintroduction of a long Time Nemesis. It was a good episode I think, more for the return of Captain Jack and The Master than anything else. Like you say, there wasn't much of a story, I expected the whole Utopia thing to go somewhere, with it being the title of the episode and all, of course it didn't really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbieZ Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 I dunno, i just compared him to the other masters. If you pretend he looks like Ming the merciless, it aint half bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Dando Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 With all this talk of the Master, it might be worth pointing out that tomorrow (June 18th) is the 34th anniversary of Roger Delgado's passing away. He of course played the original Master during the Pertwee era R.I.P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 He played the real Master. Delgado will always be the Master in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Dando Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Just a few more gripes about this episode. When the Doctor says that all the stars around them have burned up and faded away, and Jack says that the planet must have some sort of atmospheric shell, it isn't explained at all beyond just that, which kind of makes what the Doctor said not really worth mentioning. Also, the room underneath the rocket, the one that is full of radiation, wouldn't it make sense to have an inner and an outer door with an airlock in between? I mean when the coloured guy opens the door for the guy in the radiation suit, he is exposed to the radiation more so than the guy in the suit, meaning he is way more at risk Crumbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargoyle King Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I can't believe John Simm played The Master in Doctor Who! Every time i see John Simm, i can't help but think 'Sam Tyler' - it's quite amusing really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 It was kinda lack-luster... I sorta liked it, but it wasnt that good; and Im excited to see how the Dr gets out of being trapped. Captain Jack hitting on the insect girl was funny.. I liked her. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Just caught it on YouTube - couldn't wait until LimeWire finished downloading it. I don't know what your guys' problem was. I loved it. This whole season has been fantastic, aside from the tiny slip that was the Lazarus Experiment. This episode was no different. I got shivers when Yana was looking at the watch, and the "I am the Master" line was chilling, in my opinion. "The Master Reborn" line was a little cheesy, and the Futurekind were a little useless, but other than that, I loved it. I was yelling at the screen when Martha saw the watch. "Tell the Doctor! Don't do anything yourself, don't open it! Tell the Doctor, now!" Can't wait to see how the Doctor gets back to 2007. Must have something to do with what he was doing with the Sonic Screwdriver before the Master took the TARDIS. Maybe he's set it to come back to him when there's nobody on board. Or they'll use Jack's Vortex Manipulator. Can't wait to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmovingpicturesx Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I LOVED that episode. Gave me chills. John Simm is perfect as the master but one thing has been aching at me. What did the watch actually do? He had no vessel for his regeneration, did he get a new set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aash Li Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 The Master probly had his own tardis once, long time ago... no telling how long he had been hiding as Dr Yana, could have been milennia... I got shivers when I figured out what his name stood for because I knew it was linked to what Boh said. :3 I didnt like the Master Reborn or the I am the Master - those were a little too forced... and the Futurekind? Come on, Im sure they could have done better than that for a name. Makes me think of Bladerunner, or Mad Max. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I still want to know how the Master managed to escape the Eye of Harmony in the TARDIS from the movie. I hope Russell has wrote an explanation for it, but I doubt he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Dando Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I still want to know how the Master managed to escape the Eye of Harmony in the TARDIS from the movie. I hope Russell has wrote an explanation for it, but I doubt he has. I was just thinking that. With the return of the Master and all, I'm tempted to watch the TV movie again. Maybe the events of the movie took place within the Master's personal future, after Utopia, I don't know, its 8am and I haven't gone to bed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Varen Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I was just thinking that. With the return of the Master and all, I'm tempted to watch the TV movie again. Maybe the events of the movie took place within the Master's personal future, after Utopia, I don't know, its 8am and I haven't gone to bed yet. The Television Movie is good, despite its flaws. I would watch it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Dando Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 The Television Movie is good, despite its flaws. I would watch it again. I have it on DVD, its good, but not great, my main problem with it is that its a little too americanised. Its a shame we'll probably never get to see a McGann-Eccleston regeneration scene/story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmovingpicturesx Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 The TV Movie was actually the first classic Who I watched. It was fan-freaking-tastic. Why was Will Sasso in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Dando Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I've always known Will Sasso as Gomez Calhoun from Sliders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trex Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Okay. With all the comments on here plus the return, I think I better hunt down a copy of the TVM, Americanized or not. As to how he escaped the Eye of Harmony, I think it will be explained, along with why he put himself in the watch, if indeed he did do it to himself, why he wasn't killed in the time war, if he was in it, if not why not, why he can actually regenerate, and why of all the planets in all the galaxies in all the time periods does he come to present day earth (apart from budget concerns I guess). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Dando Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Maybe the Face of Boe had something to do with it, after all, it is said that Prof Yana was found on the coast of the The Silver Devastation, the Face of Boe's homeworld. Also, since the Master was human, that would explain why the Doctor couldn't "sense" him, as it is referred to in the first series that the Doctor would know if there were any other Time Lords about. So how come the Doctor can be in London, where the Master is, under the disguise of Mr Saxon, and not know about it? Maybe he has another perception filter set up or something to prevent any present or past versions of the Doctor (10th or otherwise) from finding him, because that would screw up the timeline. Although present Doctor, stranded at the end of the universe has Martha, who recognises the voice of the new Master and could easily link it to Mr Saxon in the present day, although the Master may not be aware of this. Blah. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 The Master has escaped supposed destruction many times before. He's a staple villain. I was a little tense about how they would bring him back, but I'm actually quite pleased. Now, as for how he became human, I think that one's easy. He was afraid. He knew he would have to fight in the Time War, and he was afraid. So he hid. Went all the way to the year 100 trillion to hide from the Time Lords and their War. And remember, just because the Master was always after the Doctor's remaining regenerations doesn't mean he had none of his own left. Who's to say that the Time Lords didn't free him from the Eye to help them in the War, gave him a few regenerations to keep him loyal, but he ran off anyway. That's my theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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