jedi3112 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Long time since my last visit, have been too busy studying medicine. Still am actually. Anyway, something I found on the site of the local Western Martial Arts school. Lucas may have used the Japanese style of swordmanship, but this movie shows what it would have looked like if he used the German Medieval style. Straight to the file site the file comes from (it's in Dutch) Too bad the don't have real lightsabers or teach the ways of the Force. I really could use Force heal im my profession as well as Force Choke and Force Lightning for fun and dealing with annoying patients. Anyway have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Not to be pisssy, but I always think that the whole "use ancient swordsmanship style" thing does not work well with lightsaber, simply due to the unique structure if the weapon. First off, the weapons is "bladed" in all direstions 360 degrees and is eternally sharp and hard and nearly indestructable. The weapon also does contact damage as seen in the movies, with the cutting core being really thin (as seen in many saber wounds). Which means that styles would be drastically different from all (or at least most) styles in existance. You can't touch any part of your blade, you can't stop a saber with things like a sword guard, any part of the blade is a slashing weapon... Well, I guess this should be a topic in its own though. Some day I will post my analysis in detail, and it would be a good topic for people interested in a more "practical" saber art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentScope001 Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Probraly a bit off topic about martial arts, but about the whole European Jedi phenomon: 1) In Star Wars: The planet of England, otherwise known as British, is known for its production of hypodermic needles. Many Stormtroopers and Imperial commanders are speculated to come from this planet. 2) IRL: People are self-idenitifying themselves as Jedi in England, possibly as part of a joke, or possibly because they actually believe in The Force (I've seen mostly the latter, though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 Well, I think the Aussies have a problem with people fileing that in their Religion status. I also wonder how many would file "sith" insdead. Oh wait there is only two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 The Japanese style pwns anyways, they should have conquered Europe ages ago maybe we wouldn't have such stupid things like Christianity and French people around here then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Rhett Posted October 6, 2007 Share Posted October 6, 2007 ...y...yeah yeah... it's a ... a mighty shame it didn't turn out for them. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted October 7, 2007 Share Posted October 7, 2007 Frankly, I don't see a major difference anywhere folks. If you ask me, this whole European style looks OT, while Imperial Japan looks all PT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi3112 Posted October 8, 2007 Author Share Posted October 8, 2007 Now that you mentioned it, it does look more OT. Still European and Japanese swordfighting isn't that different, only that a European sword has 2 edges (and both are used) compared to 1 edge. Though I didn't really post it to start a discussion, just some stuff to share and enjoy. Still Lucas probably used show fighting, simply because the blows look more powerfull (long blows, where you can easily attack underneat the weapon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Still Lucas probably used show fighting, simply because the blows look more powerfull (long blows, where you can easily attack underneat the weapon) Heh, and those of us who've actually done real swordplay look at those nice, long blows swung from over the top of the head (leaving the rest of the body wide open to attack) and either cringe or yell at the screen "He's open! Nail him!" That was one of the reasons why I liked the Darth Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fight so much--it was extremely fast, and it was choreographed by someone who'd actually done martial arts and knew what the heck he was doing so it wasn't filled with stupid 'movie-fighting' moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 Well, careful analysis shows that Maul is indeed drawing his moves out of Japanese Staff. And while there are deliberate things done to "look flashy" the moves generally work. Pbviously there are problems like not being able to hold the staff tips (due to them being lightsaber blades) and not being able to parry(not block) from the middle section (due to lightsaber cutting power) As for the whole "Nail him he is open" thing... I have since learnt to not analyze movies this way, it would cause so many frustrations...Geanted, in terms of jedi their reflex and mobility and force may make one seemingly open position just another leisure stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted October 9, 2007 Share Posted October 9, 2007 As for the whole "Nail him he is open" thing... I have since learn't to not analyze movies this way, it would cause so many frustrations...granted, in terms of Jedi their reflex and mobility and force may make one seemingly open position just another leisure stance. Mace's Vaapad is a perfect example of this, as it utilizes moves that make your opponent believe you are off balance, or open to attack, it gave him/her the impression that the user was unskilled... but then they were dead, or missing a limb. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negative Sun Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Heh, and those of us who've actually done real swordplay look at those nice, long blows swung from over the top of the head (leaving the rest of the body wide open to attack) and either cringe or yell at the screen "He's open! Nail him!" That was one of the reasons why I liked the Darth Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fight so much--it was extremely fast, and it was choreographed by someone who'd actually done martial arts and knew what the heck he was doing so it wasn't filled with stupid 'movie-fighting' moves. Still the best lightsaber duel ever, by far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi3112 Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Heh, and those of us who've actually done real swordplay look at those nice, long blows swung from over the top of the head (leaving the rest of the body wide open to attack) and either cringe or yell at the screen "He's open! Nail him!" That was one of the reasons why I liked the Darth Maul/Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan fight so much--it was extremely fast, and it was choreographed by someone who'd actually done martial arts and knew what the heck he was doing so it wasn't filled with stupid 'movie-fighting' moves. Exactly, just so many times that they actually invited a zwerchhau (horizontal overhead swing) against them. Though it happens less with other meisterhauen. Also too bad the second distance (bound swords) isn't used I thin it would look spectacular if a jedi and sith tried to put the strong part of their lightsaber (especially with different colored lightsabers it would turn out wonderfull) on the opponents weak part, whilst avoidingthe same thing being done to yourself. Maybe it's an idea for KOTOR 3 to actually study some moves and turn them into special attacks and stances. On a side note, I doubt the force powers would make a lot of difference, considering your opponent also uses the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoiuyWired Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Question to jedi3112 and Jae: Just wondering where did you guys learn those WMA things? I really like to know more, especially some online footage would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedi3112 Posted October 15, 2007 Author Share Posted October 15, 2007 Here's a link to some video footage text is in dutch, but that doesn't mean you can't just click every video link and hope you'll see something usefull. On the left, there's also the tab to fotos, wich is appropriatly called foto's. If you want to find WMA in your neighboorhood, that can be difficult, but the links section contains some links for schools in Holland and Belguim here as well as some international links (lower part is for archery) here. Furthermore, equipment links (arms and armor shops, lower part is wooden stuff) can be found here Good luck finding a place to train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargoyle King Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 2) IRL: People are self-idenitifying themselves as Jedi in England, possibly as part of a joke, or possibly because they actually believe in The Force (I've seen mostly the latter, though). Trust us British to be eccentric & weird! It's one thing liking Star Wars but believing in the force (Jedi & Sith is even officially recognised as a religion FYI) is morphing a liking in the SW universe into a point of insane obsession IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 It's one thing liking Star Wars but believing in the force (Jedi & Sith is even officially recognised as a religion FYI) is morphing a liking in the SW universe into a point of insane obsession IMO. If my knowledge is correct, more than half of them don't believe in the Force. It was all a joke, the guys were atheists and agnostics. Some of them cited the reason that even this made-up religion by Lucas is better and more trustworthy than existing religions. Quite honestly, they have a point. I won't be registering as Jedi in the next census, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentScope001 Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Be warned though, I HAVE seen people online who actually do believe in the Jedi religion. They were discussing what the UN will do with the Jedi, prehaps turning them into a peacekeeping force. In fact, I remember that there was this one Jedi who was dealing with demons, fighting them off, and the rest of the Jedi in this Jedi Order in fact was cheering this first Jedi on, wishing them luck in battling the evil Demons. Now, those who believe in the Sith religion, now they are joking. But those who follow the Jedi Religion, start checking their sanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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