Jeff Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Finally, an official response. In an interview with the game's producer Cameron Suey, he spoke about why the game would not be playable on enough PCs so only a select few could play it. Check out the overview at Forceunleashed.net: http://www.forceunleashed.net/news/why-force-unleashed-is-not-on-pc/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 The PC being the gaming platform that it is, someone with a $4,000 high-end system would definitely be able to play the Euphoria, the DMM and really technical elements of the game. But someone with a low-end PC would have a watered down experience, they would have to turn all the settings down and it wouldn’t be the same game. So how would that be any different from any other PC game? Really a weak excuse. Of course high-end PCs are going to provide a different gaming experience than an outdated PC. Just make the game experience equivalent to the best console and let the PC gamers catch up. It's what we always do. We're used to it. And unlike consoles, we can upgrade our rigs. That said we’re definitely not out of the PC market. It’s just with our choice for this game, with the known quantity for the consoles, and every console is the same with the same processing power, it made sense for us to develop for those consoles.Translation: we were already spread thin covering each console and when we crunched the numbers, the payback from developing a PC platform wasn't worth the investment. Just say it like it is. That said we’re definitely not out of the PC market. Throw me a bone... Might there be a PC version in the future? No. And if there was no-one has told me about it yet! Or not. Pfft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I agree with Teekay. If it would to be watered down on low-end PCs, then why not add the special levels or the duel mode of the Wii, for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 So how would that be any different from any other PC game? Really a weak excuse. Of course high-end PCs are going to provide a different gaming experience than an outdated PC. Just make the game experience equivalent to the best console and let the PC gamers catch up. It's what we always do. We're used to it. And unlike consoles, we can upgrade our rigs. Word. Translation: we were already spread thin covering each console and when we crunched the numbers, the payback from developing a PC platform wasn't worth the investment. Just say it like it is. Well, if it makes you feel any better Haden Blackman pretty much said that back in January. Throw me a bone... What do you mean? LEC threw out LEGO Star Wars I and II for PC. That isn't enough of a bone for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantzen Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Bah, bull****. The PS2 version can't look so good either, and the Wii version isnt so good looking either but that still counts as the same game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Yeah, see? I knew this would happen. People bitched about there being no PC version, and when they [LA] actually give a good reason for it, they refuse to believe and bitch anyway. It's what I like to call a "lose-lose" scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 What "good" reason would that be TKA-001? @Char Ell: Ah thanks didn't see the Blackman interview. As for *future* bones, let's see: Lego Indy? No. TFU? No. Fracture? No. Battlefront 3? ?? KotOR 3? ?? JK 4 ?? No, I won't count a MMORPG as a bone. I wonder when they're going to drop the "we're definitely not out of the PC market" rhetoric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Bwahahaha! Did the guy actually ice cold say 'WATERED DOWN' while he's bringing the damn game to the PS2, DS, PSP, N-gage, Texas instruments calculator and microwave? When they'll give us a serious statement, I'll be back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantzen Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Yeah, see? I knew this would happen. People bitched about there being no PC version, and when they [LA] actually give a good reason for it, they refuse to believe and bitch anyway. It's what I like to call a "lose-lose" scenario. I don't bitch about it aint comming to PC, but there still no good reason why it wont come to PC. Waterd down my ass, most gamers PC are better then a PS2, thats for sure... If this wasnt one of the nice forums im a member off, there would be some flame in the above post ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Sad truth is if TFU is a big commercial success for Lucasarts, which appears likely, won't that further ingrain the strategy of *not* developing for the PC? There seems to be a growing conflict of interest being an admin on these forums and a PC-only gamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 What "good" reason would that be TKA-001? Maybe the reason they gave? If this wasnt one of the nice forums im a member off, there would be some flame in the above post ^^ Oh, thank god. I am very appreciative of your mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantzen Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 TKA, that still not a good reason. It's so much easier to get your opinion across with a bit of flame And btw, wtf "The PC being the gaming platform that it is, someone with a $4,000 high-end system would definitely be able to play the Euphoria, the DMM and really technical elements of the game"My computer costed around $2000 (A little less, and that was a year ago) and i can play Crysis on highest with that one. I really don't think you need double the amount to be able to play Force Unleashed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 You people are saying those things based on assumptions. I'm content enough to assume that the people who actually make the games know what they're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Maybe the reason they gave? Suey's reason: "People with low-end PCs wouldn't have a good play experience" = bad reason Blackman's reason: "It would require high-end PCs and there's not enough customer base to justify it" = okay reason, though it's flawed logic. Perhaps LA was looking at Crysis sales for a yardstick in the high-end PC gamer market. Back in November the sales in the U.S. were less than anticipated. Not really fair though since that was sales snapshot was the first week of sales for a game hyped as being a DX10 game while people were badmouthing Vista. The buzz at that time was that yes, this is a high-end game and you will probably need to upgrade your components. That doesn't happen overnight. Now look ahead 3 months later after the Christmas holiday and digital downloads, and EA tells us it has sold 1 million units worldwide. Sales for higher-end PC games may not be as dramatic as console games (eg. GTA IV), but they have longevity especially when the modding communities spring up. (And all this is under the assumption that TFU will require a high-end machine, yet we have development for the PS2 and DS.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted May 13, 2008 Author Share Posted May 13, 2008 Well I don't mind as much just because I have access to a console and think gameplay would be better on there. But one thing I'd like to ask the PC-only gamers is would you be satisfied with the PS2 version being brought to the PC instead of the high-end version? Not trying to prove anything, I'm just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lantzen Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 There aint no reason they would bring a PS2 version to the PC. From what i understand xbox and PC games is very similar to program, so if they can do a high-end version on xbox they can easily do it on PC. Not that i care so much either since i have a xbox, but the reason they have give is just crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk102 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I don't need high end graphics to have fun gaming. I'm used to turning down my graphics settings, so if they do it for me by porting the PS2 version, that's fine. It'd be nice for a change to be able to pwn the specs on a new game. Maybe I look at games a little differently coming from RPG/Adventure fandom of which TFU isn't. And perhaps I take it a bit personally. This game was given the tacit nod by Lucas and elaborates on the OT timeframe that my generation grew up with watching in the theaters. There is a feeling of being deliberately left out because I don't own a console like my younger friends. Ah, well, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 I don't mind anymore since I'm getting a PS3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 As for *future* bones, let's see: Lego Indy? No. TFU? No. Fracture? No. Battlefront 3? ?? KotOR 3? ?? JK 4 ?? No, I won't count a MMORPG as a bone. I wonder when they're going to drop the "we're definitely not out of the PC market" rhetoric. I think the only future bone for PC right now is the unannounced LucasArts/BioWare project. Seems like there would be a decent chance for that game to be released for PC though we'll not likely see that until the end of 2009 or more likely 2010. Talk about a "future" bone... The Free Radical project will most definitely come out before the LucasArts/BioWare project but since Free Radical isn't known for making PC games the odds on bet for that game is it will be another console exclusive like TFU. There seems to be a growing conflict of interest being an admin on these forums and a PC-only gamer. So you've noticed, eh? Of course I'm not an admin but I've wondered how LF will do if LucasArts stops releasing PC games or only releases a PC game once every 2-3 years. If the PC peeps start dropping off then will the console peeps fill in? Hard to predict but seems likely a demographic shift in the LF user base would result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Kered Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I could really care less that it's not for PC. IMO, PC games are a waste. Most games that I have seen for PC in the last 2 years have been ones that can be easily beaten in 3 hours, and others you have to play online, which most of the time requires monthly fees just to play a game you already paid $60 for. As for myself, I have a Wii which is good enough for me to play TFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted May 14, 2008 Author Share Posted May 14, 2008 You must not see many PC games then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden Kered Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Around where I live...not really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ztalker Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I'll get back on my previous statement. I've bought a new computer at the beginning of this year. Some specs (X-Fire Sca): Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.6GHz Memory: 2048MB RAM Hard Drive: 250 GB Total Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT I just took the Assassin's Creed Test...(to check if my comp's able to handle it) and I was flabbergasted. It ran very bad. I know the 8600 is a crappy video card (which was completely ignored by the videogame creator who embraced the 8800 and left us 'first gen Vista cards' owners to cry). Too be honest about this...I don't feel I want to buy another 600 euro video card for Assassin's Creed. And although TFU is no Crysis, it's far more cmparible with Assassin's Creed. And remember, I bought my system THIS year....it sucks There is (for me) some reason behind LA's statement now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serpentine Cougar Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I guess it would be too hard to make the physics system scalable? So that, like other graphics settings, you can turn them down in "Options" if your rig can't handle it? But one thing I'd like to ask the PC-only gamers is would you be satisfied with the PS2 version being brought to the PC instead of the high-end version? Not trying to prove anything, I'm just curious. Even if that was all the PC got, it would still probably mean some modding possibilities... [...] only releases a PC game once every 2-3 years. Isn't that how long it usually takes to make a game, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Char Ell Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Isn't that how long it usually takes to make a game, though? Sure, PC games usually take at least 2 years to make. However if LucasArts only releases one PC game once every 2-3 years then that would mean LucasArts would likely be developing or contracting development for one PC game at a time. In the past LucasArts has released one or more PC titles each year so they've had more than one PC game in the development pipeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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