Ctrl Alt Del Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 At this point, you're just freaking making stuff up. Am I? Are you saying that you didn't noticed that the companions backstories felt incredibly incomplete? I think the best example to illustrate it is Atton. Hmm, interesting, assassins, Sith, torture... hmm, that's it? Already over? And where's Visas' life tale? "My planet went nova and I became slave to a blabbering proto-sith lord." Yeah, that's it. Not saying that isn't true about some K2 people, but their backstories at least consisted (usually) of more than one single life-altering event (ie Juhani, Carth, Canderous, Zaalbar etc.). On that point you're mostly right, especially when we have Bao-dur in mind. Nevertheless, what I'm saying is that, despite of their stories originality or inspiration, they all seemed - and are - too incomplete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev7 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 like i said, it's probably because i played KOTOR2, first. I too played KotOR II first. That might be why I like Revan a little bit more. They both are great characters to tell you the truth. -- I admitt that the characters in K1 had a much better background. I mean, you get to learn about Zaalbar on Kasyykyy (spelled wrong, I know. :/), Mission & her brother, Bastila and her mother, Carth and his son, wife, Saul, ect. Canderous with his war stories, and what not. There, IMO, was a lot more detail, and though, and story to the other characters in K1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnseyy Posted July 19, 2008 Author Share Posted July 19, 2008 I too played KotOR II first. That might be why I like Revan a little bit more. They both are great characters to tell you the truth. -- I admitt that the characters in K1 had a much better background. I mean, you get to learn about Zaalbar on Kasyykyy (spelled wrong, I know. :/), Mission & her brother, Bastila and her mother, Carth and his son, wife, Saul, ect. Canderous with his war stories, and what not. There, IMO, was a lot more detail, and though, and story to the other characters in K1. very true! in K2, they dont really have mcuh of a back story. if they did, the game would be much more enjoyable i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I thought the difference was that the party members didn't have their own sidequests[ in K2]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally3000 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 revan evil that makes him cool =P lol! i wish if you went evil then you could get the power to sevre the force like malak (what he does to visas planet) cause that would be fun =] i prefer KotOR 1 although i like the way you can influance your crew but like alot o people are saying they didn't really have interesting background stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnseyy Posted July 20, 2008 Author Share Posted July 20, 2008 revan evil that makes him cool =P lol! i wish if you went evil then you could get the power to sevre the force like malak (what he does to visas planet) cause that would be fun =] i prefer KotOR 1 although i like the way you can influance your crew but like alot o people are saying they didn't really have interesting background stories. ahh, ste, i think you mean Darth Nihilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan7 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Revan evil that makes him cool =P lol! i wish if you went evil then you could get the power to sevre the force like Nihilus (what he does to Visas planet) cause that would be fun =] Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally3000 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 lol i am dumb and thanks for fixing it... lol but still how cool would it be to attcually be able to do tht ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astor Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 I thought the difference was that the party members didn't have their own sidequests[ in K2]. [/Quote] That really is the only difference, and I don't think K2 suffers for that. It suffers for a lot of other reasons, but that's hardly one of them. revan evil that makes him cool =P lol![/Quote] Hitler was evil too, does that make him cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally3000 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 Good point, good point, i hate u =P no i dnt really well sith then. cause he is a sith that makes him cool =P. although malak is a sith n he's not cool =/ ahhhh.... well most sith are cool lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 So a villain can't be a good character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally3000 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 So a villain can't be a good character? a villian can be working for a good cause but can be doing it the wrong way. like the sith wanted to end the war with the mandalorians, but they may have done it the wronge way, resulting in thosands dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctrl Alt Del Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 a villian can be working for a good cause but can be doing it the wrong way. like the sith wanted to end the war with the mandalorians, but they may have done it the wronge way, resulting in thosands dead. I agree with the first phrase, but not with the rest of the statement. The Sith were the ones who proposed the mandalorians to engage the Republic on the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 a villian can be working for a good cause but can be doing it the wrong way. That is completely beside the point. I was talking about the quality of the character, not their objectives or morality or whatever. A character is made to entertain the reader or serve a purpose in the story. The character in question's morality has nothing to do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bally3000 Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 oh i see sorry i thought ye ment the morality but there not for entertainment there real people THERE REAL PEOPLE!!!!!! hahaha lol only joking am not a freak... lol i wish they were real tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Yuthura Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 The Exile is the better of the two because she always kept her ways, despite being provoked time and again by the injustices she has faced. The true villains were Atris and Vrook... or the High Council. The story also revolves around leadership and morals rather than defeating a clearly evil enemy. The best villains are those with a reason for their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan7 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 oh i see sorry i thought ye ment the morality but there not for entertainment there real people THERE REAL PEOPLE!!!!!! hahaha lol only joking am not a freak... lol i wish they were real tho The Sith? I think there are enough megalomaniacs who like to torture people for fun running around the world already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Yuthura Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 That is completely beside the point. I was talking about the quality of the character, not their objectives or morality or whatever. A character is made to entertain the reader or serve a purpose in the story. The character in question's morality has nothing to do with that. I don't agree with that. I think the best characters are those who have the strongest beliefs and are willing to fight for them. My favorite character is Yuthura Ban. I favor her because she has always been driven by a cause... it lead her to become the thing she was trying to defeat. Her beliefs in her original cause was what brought her back to the jedi after she realized that she was no longer fighting for her goal. She had the strength to face what she had become and chose to turn away from the sith. The Exile is much more like that than Revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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