Yar-El Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Article: Lawsuit over Obama's Birth Certificate Democrat suing his own party says it's 'like they're in cahoots' Posted: October 04, 2008 The man suing Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee for proof of Obama's American citizenship is outraged that his own party – rather than just providing the birth certificate he seeks – would step in to silence him by filing a motion to dismiss his lawsuit. As WND reported, prominent Pennsylvania Democrat and attorney Philip J. Berg filed suit in U.S. District Court two months ago claiming Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen and therefore not eligible to be elected president. Berg has since challenged Obama publicly that if the candidate will simply produce authorized proof of citizenship, he'll drop the suit. Berg told WND the longer the DNC tries to ignore his lawsuit or make it go away – instead of just providing the documents – the more convinced he is that his accusations are correct. Despite assertions by the Washington Post, FactChecker.org and other organizations that Obama has produced a certified Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg told WND he remains "99.99 percent sure" that the certificate is a fake and he wants a court, not a website, to determine its validity. Article 2: 2nd Lawsuit Challenges Obama's Citizenship Man demands state verify birth records or remove senator from ballots Posted: October 16, 2008 Steven Marquis of Fall City, Wash., filed suit Oct. 9 in Washington State Superior Court, calling for Secretary of State Sam Reed to determine whether Obama is a citizen before Election Day. Marquis released a statement saying the state has the authority to "prevent the wholesale disenfranchisement of voters" who might have otherwise had the opportunity to choose a qualified candidate should records show Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 You know, if he turns out not to be a natural-born American citizen, I am going to split a gut laughing as victory is snatched quite literally out of the Democrat's jaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 You know, if he turns out not to be a natural-born American citizen, I am going to split a gut laughing as victory is snatched quite literally out of the Democrat's jaws. Anyone running for president should have to prove citizenship. Its the Constitutional law. People would be crying on the streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Exactly! But I'll still be laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 It's just the bigots out for one last hurrah. Nothing will come of it. No folks, Obama's not an Arab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 The question is valid. If Obama was not born in the United States, he cannot be President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 The question is valid, and the answer that he is a Hawaiian is also valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinthian Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 He's just asking for them to turn it over to a court for validation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 The question is valid, and the answer that he is a Hawaiian is also valid. He was born in Kenya. F.Y.i - Its a Democrat running the lawsuit against Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 He was not born in Kenya. He was born in Honolulu. His father, Barack Obama Senior, was born in Kenya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 He was not born in Kenya. He was born in Honolulu. You didn't know? He was born in Kenya. Lol... He lived in Honolulu later in life; however, he spent the first several years of his life in Kenya. Born and raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litofsky Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 You didn't know? He was born in Kenya. Lol... He lived in Honolulu; however, he spent the first several years of his life in Kenya. Born and raised. If this statement is true, you wouldn't mind backing it up with facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 You didn't know? He was born in Kenya. Lol... He lived in Honolulu later in life; however, he spent the first several years of his life in Kenya. Born and raised.No, he was born in Honolulu. I quote from his U.S. Congress Biography: OBAMA, Barack, a Senator from Illinois; born in Honolulu, Hawaii, August 4, 1961 There's your answer. http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=o000167 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I think if this was a real point of contention and not a desperate grasping at straws the Republican party as a whole would've brought it up at his nomination, not this late in the race when it suddenly appears that Obama may clinch the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 If this statement is true, you wouldn't mind backing it up with facts? Born in the U.S.A.? PHILADELPHIA - A Lafayette Hill attorney filed a lawsuit in federal court Thursday challenging Sen. Barack Obama's claim to United States citizenship. The action seeks to remove the Democratic candidate from the November ballot. To be eligible to serve as U.S. president, a person must be born in this country. According to Obama's birth certificate, which his campaign posted on its Internet site in June to quell rumors that he is foreign born, the Illinois senator was born in Hawaii on Aug. 6, 1961. On Thursday, Philip Berg filed a temporary restraining order in federal court to bar Obama from running for president, claiming the Democratic candidate was actually born in Africa. "We really don't believe he was born in Hawaii," Berg said. "We think he was born in Kenya." I need to find my other references. Give me a second. I remember reading it online in a more creditble location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 So basically the birth certificate was provided, and some people are so desperate to see Barack Obama not become the next president that the accused him of lying on his birth certificate? That is hardly a source or a fact. It is a baseless smear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 So basically the birth certificate was provided, and some people are so desperate to see Barack Obama not become the next president that the accused him of lying on his birth certificate? That is hardly a source or a fact. It is a baseless smear. By a fellow Democrat? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Born in the U.S.A.?It's a lie. Pure and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 By a fellow Democrat? I don't think so. Democrats can't support McCain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yar-El Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 It's a lie. Pure and simple. I wish it were that simple. We may have a Constitutional violation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I thought everyone knew he was born in Hawaii. Like, way back when he went into the Senate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inyri Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Democrats can't support McCain?Colin Powell endorsed Obama. There's no reason to think a Democrat might not be pro McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimartin Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I thought everyone knew he was born in Hawaii. They do, seems some just don't know Hawaii is a state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrrtoken Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I wish it were that simple. We may have a Constitutional violation here.No, I mean that the claim that Obama was born in Kenya is a lie. In that same article, FactCheck.org states that they "touched, examined and photographed" his original birth certificate, and determined that it was genuine. They conclude: "The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.,". The evidence proves that the claim that Obama isn't an American citizen is a fallacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Nine Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I think we're all forgetting here that John McCain was born in Panama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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