Shem Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 What a surprise by the husband, but he deserves this: http://www.switched.com/2009/11/15/undercover-wife-busts-husband-by-posing-as-a-chatroom-teen?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.switched.com%2F2009%2F11%2F15%2Fundercover-wife-busts-husband-by-posing-as-a-chatroom-teen With its 'To Catch a Predator' sting operations, NBC's 'Dateline' has spawned a Web meme of motivational posters and jokes deriding repulsive sexual deviants. Those undercover sting operations have also inspired a wave of Net vigilantes who personally attempt to ensnare those unwitting, perverted dimwits. A 69-year-old man in Wales was recently duped by an undercover crusader, and the operative just so happened to be in the next room. Instead of exchanging chat-room messages with what he thought was a 14-year-old girl, David Anthony Roberts was actually propositioning his own wife. Cheryl Roberts, David's wife of 20 years, had recently grown suspicious of her husband's extensive online activities, particularly those he carried out under the message board alias of "Corky." With that in mind, she created profiles of 14- and 15-year-old girls on the site Bearshare and began engaging in clandestine discussions with her husband. The conversations apparently turned sexual in nature and finally culminated with David propositioning the 14-year-old character. WalesOnline reports that Cheryl, who has since divorced her husband, called police after the incident. They made an arrest and subsequently found child pornography on the man's computer. David -- who, officials believe, may suffer from a neurological disorder -- plead guilty to eight charges of child pornography and is now a registered sexual offender. He is also being required to attend a sex offender program and is not allowed to contact anyone under the age of 18 on the Web. Chris Hansen would be proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totenkopf Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 ..but he deserves this: Too true, and to be busted by his own wife......that's gotta hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silly Saber Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 What a twit. Totally deserves what he got. So does anyone involved in anything so wrong. A question that springs to mind though... how did his wife know to emulate a 14-15 yr old? And what site to register herself on? I know the article said she was suspicious, but somewhat unsure of her husband's activities... seems like she must've done her homework more than the article suggests to get the profile that he liked down pat, and to also be on the same site as him. Good on her anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Dumb-F***ing idiot. Seriously, you can be tracked in anything you do online. People who still go for this are idiots. People, the likes of which will *never change* (they never do) and this is the perfect design to catch them in the act. The absolute lowest of the low IMO. Good for the (now) ex wife. One more creep down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Graffiti Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Shem, do you find this stuff by googling random words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 A question that springs to mind though... how did his wife know to emulate a 14-15 yr old? Well, we adults were once 14 ourselves, and it doesn't take long to read sites where teens hang out to get the lingo down. I could register here and act like a 14 year old and you all would never know. And what site to register herself on? I know the article said she was suspicious, but somewhat unsure of her husband's activities... seems like she must've done her homework more than the article suggests to get the profile that he liked down pat, and to also be on the same site as him. All she'd have to do is look at his history folder on his computer, or install a program that tracks his net activity, and see what sites he'd been to in order to figure that out. Talk about busting your hubby. Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purifier Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Wife, SCORE: 1 Ex-husband, SCORE: L for Loser.......BIGTIME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silly Saber Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Well, we adults were once 14 ourselves, and it doesn't take long to read sites where teens hang out to get the lingo down. I could register here and act like a 14 year old and you all would never know. lol, that goes without saying. What I meant was how did she know that 14-15 yr olds was what her weirdo husband was interested in. She picked the precisely right "profile" that he was attracted to. All she'd have to do is look at his history folder on his computer, or install a program that tracks his net activity, and see what sites he'd been to in order to figure that out. True enough. There are ways around history being tracked, etc. But it does sound like other than being perverted, he was also a monumental twit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giant Graffiti Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 What I meant was how did she know that 14-15 yr olds was what her weirdo husband was interested in. She picked the precisely right "profile" that he was attracted to. She was married to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quanon Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Wife, SCORE: 1 Ex-husband, SCORE: L for Loser.......BIGTIME! Easy to say, if this wouldn't be your grandfather or other family member. Feelings about such a thing are far more complex and go deeper then this. I had the great fortune to have a nice family "split"/ "fight" about just such a case, even a bit more "evil" then this. It really isn't just that easy to go "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EVIIILLL MAN!" I feel really sad for the family and everybody involved. With this kind of stuff its never easy to handle and its certainly not this black&white. There's always something more behind a crime then "evil". @Purifier: Not aimed at you personaly, but I had this nice affair in my family, which turned my views upsite down quiete a bit. Won't post more, as I don't want to turn into an EMO queen, nor is it business for the internet and such, hell I don't know why I bothered in the first place. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Silly Saber Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 She was married to him. I know, I know. Guess I walked into that. I just find this one really hard to wrap my head around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purifier Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Easy to say, if this wouldn't be your grandfather or other family member. Feelings about such a thing are far more complex and go deeper then this. I had the great fortune to have a nice family "split"/ "fight" about just such a case, even a bit more "evil" then this. It really isn't just that easy to go "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EVIIILLL MAN!" I feel really sad for the family and everybody involved. With this kind of stuff its never easy to handle and its certainly not this black&white. There's always something more behind a crime then "evil". @Purifier: Not aimed at you personaly, but I had this nice affair in my family, which turned my views upsite down quiete a bit. Won't post more, as I don't want to turn into an EMO queen, nor is it business for the internet and such, hell I don't know why I bothered in the first place. Carry on. Believe it or not, I do see your point and understand where you are coming from Quanon. When the things that you mention above does happen within a large family itself, like that, it can be a whole different matter indeed; and your right, it's not so simple when it does involve a family member that you love and respect. Yet on the other hand, I don't believe that anybody has to commit the act of sexual child abuse either. And maybe it's just because I'm the father of a child (girl) myself, which brings out my fatherly protective nature about children even more. But to be honest with you Quanon, my post above was aimed more to the fact that he was caught cheating or trying to cheat by his wife more than the possible child abuse thing. And I have a really big problem with that, for I've experienced enough of that crap myself to last me. But, my apologies to you sir and to any others here, for my other post if it offends you and not being really considerate in it's written form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quanon Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 No apologies needed, as you did no harm. I just wanted to point that out And I understand as a Dad you can take no such crap from anyone concerning your daughter. The cheating wife/husband, well I've got no experience with that, but you don't need to be a genius to see that this stuff is like a wreckingball. Apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Avlectus Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Knew a kid back <some odd> years ago. Always had a distant look about him and it'd take awhile for him to snap out of it. He seemed normal, but found out later the reason he was in special education was because of sexual trauma he and his brother suffered at the hands of his brutal, perverted father. He was classified as severly handicapped though--yes he was that badly messed up. Picked up habitual lying and a sort of habit of picking up and stealing things when a little older. While those were eventually dealt with, he was so messed up that eventually he was never the same person at all when he grew up. Not even remotely. In fact, as a young kid his passive demeanor that he exhibited would occasionally briefly disappear as he'd react badly towards adults in a paranoiac aggressive manner like he was fearful of being hurt. He always described everything as a struggle. As an adolescent he was a bit of a neurotic sociopath. Now he has coped, but he is nothing the same. As a kid still friendly and welcoming despite what he went through. As an adult is totally feral and aloof. So when I look at things like this or arguments that allow for kids to be "sexually experimental", it gets little sympathy from me. Based upon experiences, this gets a bitter reaction in memory to a confused childhood friend. I'm being too subjective when I see potentially the same injustice here? FINE. This world is already messed up bad enough--we don't need this one, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Reiper Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Does it really have to be this complicated? Couldn't she just check his history or look around his folders while he's at work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 That's why I only go after 16 year olds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKA-001 Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 The Internet, where the guys are guys, the girls are guys, and the children are your wife in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Reiper Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 The Internet, where the guys are guys, the girls are guys, and the children are your wife in disguise. I'm making that line a motivator right nao. Edit:KK, here it is: Show spoiler (hidden content - requires Javascript to show) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockhead Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I hope he has a comfortable couch, something tells me he's going to be sleeping on it for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanir Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Well I certainly hope the intuition of investigators is not awry on this, because strictly speaking it's an extremely contrived case. Firstly the only demonstrable offence is a very loose and highly interpretive judgement regarding pornography, for example child pornography in Commonwealth nations may be simply the depiction of underage sex (ie. 20yo pornstars wearing school uniforms), loading a webpage where pornography is a surprising turn of events is neverthless downloading pornographic material, the levelling of pornographic interest as a criminal offence is open to dubious interpretation unless a clear stipulation is made that sexually undeveloped minors were obviously involved, which is a lot like a snuff film and fair enough criminal to even have as it supports the practise used in making the film. Secondly the wife is most certainly not a disinterested party and could very easily have alterior motives of a financial or personal nature. Only disinterested parties make witnesses, anyone else can only be a supporting witness. Her vigilanteism smacks of entrapment, unfortunately a law which does not exist in the commonwealth but an important one which recognises that manoeuvring someone into a position to consider or role play committing an offence is firstly not the same as committing an offence and secondly, even if an offence was committed it may be argued that it was under duress and the circumstances of the offence only relate to that one specific instance. In other words he might've been willing to meet with his "undercover wife" only because something in the character of the person he was speaking to reminded him remarkably of his wife... The point is no history of paedophile behaviour in the strictest sense has been clearly demonstrated here. The man is being charged on suspicion of what he might've done, a thought crime. He didn't for example, force girls under age 10 to watch hardcore porn with him. The circumstances of his internet activity and the actual nature of the pornography on his hdd is not stipulated, just the usual right wing knee jerk of media over nothing really substantive. I appreciate such a thing is popular among some members of the community because belief in witch burning returns a sense of power many feel is siphoned by institutional authorities, but the problem is that power being all too easily levelled against any one of us without genuine cause, just loads of suspicion whenever that might become prudent for somebody and their goals. The catch cry is burn the paedophile but it's just a word, crimes should need to be proved or we just have Salem for a legal system. Witch used to mean paedophile and everything else bad back then, it's not that different if you're not sticking strictly to demonstrably serious offences against persons. And no, I do not blindly trust legal institution. I do not think "Oh but they convicted him so they must be right," because that's how reform doesn't happen. I trust me. Show me the evidence if you're going to use the court of public opinion, how useless is it to give opinions upon opinions and supposition and flagrant allegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Onasi Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 I hope he has a comfortable couch, something tells me he's going to be sleeping on it for quite some time. More like a 'comfortable' 8x8 ft cage with some big neighbors named "Bubba" becoming his closest friends. @vanir: possession of child porn on your computer is against the law. I'm sure they'll be able to figure out from computer forensics if he d/l'd it or if she did it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamqd Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 While I violently against creating a Problem in Order to solve it (read entrapment) Luckily it lead to the police finding out he was looking at illegal Material and will hopefully get what he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockhead Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 More like a 'comfortable' 8x8 ft cage with some big neighbors named "Bubba" becoming his closest friends. I was thinking if it went that far he'd be in for an amateur sex change operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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