Nemios Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 "3.01 What type of game is Jedi Outcast? Jedi Outcast is an action-oriented first-person perspective game, similar in nature to the original Jedi Knight. Third-person perspective is used for lightsaber combat." Does this mean that you won't be able to freely switch from 1st to 3rd POV with any weapon? I'm going to be very sad if it will be so. Saberfighting from 1st POV is the BIGGEST feature for me and I think that 3rd POV with any gun should be there for people who likes it, since now there's an aiming cross. Acrobatics from 1st POV shouldn't be a problem. The camera hadn't to "roll" like the body since our brain automatically "corrects" the vision (Have you ever watched TV from the bed? And when you turn riding a Motorcycle? ). Many MODs for JK1 works well in that manner (An example? See my own from the signature) and I think noone would complain. Please, insert this feature if is missing. If it is already there than tell us or, better, let we see a screen when you release others. P.S.: I know this had been talked before but I hope to catch the developers' attention with a new topic. Excuse me for my bad english... [ November 19, 2001: Message edited by: Nemios ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lunatic1587246489 Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 Yeah thats the same way I interpreted that comment Neimos. I'm pretty sure you will be able to use guns in 3rd person mode though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 I agree, I'm also worried. I always like usuing the blater in 3rd POV and just having a 1st POV of saber fighting gives you the feel of saber combat. Lets hope that nothing has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 I'm 99.9999999999% sure that we can use guns in 3rd person perspective...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TornSoul Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 If it's not a standard option, you will surely be able to do it in console with a command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancor Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 Agreed, the quake3 console is a powerful thing. If it's like other games, the developers will probably leave all sorts of feature switches hooked into it. Once we find out what those are, we can get access to additional things that may not necessarily be available by default in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 I'll throw my two cents into this discussion as well. It's all about options. Game developers, listen up. As a fellow software developer, it is paramount to provide the user with ways to customize and configure a piece of software to their preferred method of operation. If a gamer wants to saber in 1st-person, then why shouldn't they be "allowed" to do so? Sure, default it the way you "think" it should be, but if someone disagrees, then let them play their way. We all have different tastes and preferences. It's the economy, stupid. I'd modify that to be: It's the options, stupid. Of course, I'm not calling anyone stupid, but that's the quote, so you get the idea. Just be liberal with the options, and you can't go wrong. [ November 19, 2001: Message edited by: Vagabond ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 Originally posted by Vagabond: Just be liberal with the options, and you can't go wrong. I second that motion! JK had some of the greatest choices in how to play the game of any FPS. Please continue that trend with JK2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted November 19, 2001 Share Posted November 19, 2001 You probably can, it would be pretty stupid if you could only have 3rd peron view when your lightsaber was on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaJeSTiK the God Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 If you guys carefully watched the trailers "under download section of jediknightII.net" You would have noticed that in the game the user made it so that he had pulled a saber out, than changed to a storm trooper rifle, changed to 1st person and fired. I noticed that the second time, after reading your comments about it. So don't be afraid it will be perfectly fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Welcome to the forums, MaJeSTiK. Have a cookie. Yeah, I take your point about the trailers...although keep in mind that was from a very early demo level made for E3. Heh...that seems like ancient history, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardz Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Stormy, I reckon you should have that welcome message in your sig. We will be sayign it enough. (welcome BTW Majestik) wardz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 wardz... You're right...and that's a good idea. (See below ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omedarcus Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Wow, this is the opposite of the other thread in a way. I'm hoping for the whole game to be 3rd person, with everything feeling like Heretic II. Although, Hexen II, which was first person, had sword fighting in 1st person and it was really cool too. Hopefully Jedi Knight II will be the best of both worlds: Heretic II meets Hexen II meet Star Wars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Tahu Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 I'm afraid that that is not so.You fight with any rifle in first person,and in third person ewith the sabre.Check the official Jedi Outcast site for yourself. Too bad,they really should have the sabre fighting in First Person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaJeSTiK the God Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 one thing to say... i have never meet a nicer bunch of people on the net before. and i meet thousands and thousand of gamers, etc. I been playin jk (1st one) since 97 i used to be a nf gunner legend on the zone. and everyone i meet is an ******* at first than nice at the end.. So thanks for the welcome, =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemios Posted November 20, 2001 Author Share Posted November 20, 2001 Seems that everyone cares much more guns on 3rd person POV... if it's true that the console lets you switch (but someone said that in EF you have to enter cheat mode, so what about in multiplayer? Still possible?), for guns virtually there's no problem but for the saber remains. In JK1 animations differs from external and POV (see into COGs, scripting language) and if for guns' external animations we are sure they exist (like someone said, in multiplayer we still see animations for the opponents), we are NOT sure internal animation exist for the saber... Did you understand me? My english seems not so good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Yes Nemios, we understood. To me, I don't see why they can't just use the same animations for both 1st and 3rd POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 I, for one, am very skillful at first-person sabering in MotS. It's the only way I've ever fought, and although I am capable of sabering in 3rd-person, I'd just as soon not. It's not my cup of tea, so to speak. My strong suggestion is that JKII support the same customization options that the original JK and MotS had. Remember, evolve the gameplay, not devolve - otherwise I'm going to have to whip it - whip it good!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 Actually, I noticed something a bit odd about sabering in 1st person in JK. It seems that I see more arms coming off my opponents when in 1st person than I do in 3rd person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 just tried the fp POv and more arms do come off... strange... Welcoem to the Forum Newcomers.. Enjoy the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 I'm not going mad, then...well, maybe. Of course, what I'd like to see is the ability to cut people's arms off in MP...and have it regenerate if you get some more health. I thought that was funny in RUNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancor Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 I'll bet $50 that we can play it in any of the above listed ways. If we get proven wrong, I'll pay the first person that notifies me that I lost the bet, heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vagabond Posted November 20, 2001 Share Posted November 20, 2001 You're right, my friend Stormy, I laughed my ass off the first time I saw my bloody stump grow back into a fully functional, although somewhat bloody, arm again. The wonderful healing power of Turkey Legs and Mead...gotta love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted November 21, 2001 Share Posted November 21, 2001 simply because it switched to 1st pov when he got the gun, doesnt mean you cannot gun in 3rd... if you recall in JK, there was an option call 'lighsaber camera' or something, and what it did was it automatically switched to 3rd when you had you saber out, and then switched 1st again once you pulled out a gun... so it will probably be an option again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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