Kwup Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Anyone hear about if the new Pentium 4's will be good, or will AMD still own them? I'd hate to betray my top choice in processors
OnlyOneCanoli Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Now (HP-eeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww): AMD Athlon 750MHz 64MB GeForce 256 256MB RAM In a week (built by me): 1.33GHz T-Bird GeForce3 256MB PC2100 DDR RAM 60GB IBM Desktar HD 19" Sony Trinitron monitor Yummy.
UnForGiven1587246492 Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Now CPU: p3 450 GFX: 32MB Riva TNT2 RAM: 128MB SD Then CPU: I'm guessing 2 ghtz AMD GFX: G-Force3(ultra maybe) RAM: 256 or 512 DDR Ram I guess. Tis hard to specify exactly what I'm going to have by then considering I'll be getting it 1st half of next year sometime. All I can really do is make an educated guess.
Jedi_Killer1587246491 Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 The P4 is much faster if the software is compiled for the P4's architecture. In regular old non-optimized applications Athlons of much lower clock speed are faster. But since Windows XP is supposed to be optimized for the P4 its going to be interesting to see what happens.
Darth Simpson Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 What I have now : Pentium II 500 128 MB RAM 32 MB Geforce 2 MX 15 GB HD 50X CD-ROM Not sure what I will have when JKII comes out, but somewhere along these lines. 1.5 or more GHz GeForce 3 384 MB RAM DVD Big HD
Swoosh Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 hmm...my system is pretty fast AMD Thunderbird 1 ghz 256 mb SD PC133 Dual Ultra 2 SCSI 10K2 9 Gb hard drives (pretty much the fastest on the market) Voodoo 5500 Creative Sound Blaster Live 5.1 (amazing) Soon to be running off of a t3 I use this system for digital video editing as well =) Swoosh
Guest ZeroXcape Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Jedi Howell: If we are talking about our secondary computers as well, then I'll have the following setup when JKII comes out: OS: Windows XP CPU: 1.7GHz RAM: 256 DDRAM GFX: geFroce3 OS: Slack/Stampede Linux (current) CPU: 1.0 GHz RAM: 384 SDRAM GFX: geforce2 On a side note, if Raven is reading this: PORT JEDI KNIGHT II TO LINUX!
ReAcToR Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Now: Duron 800 256MB RAM 17GB HD Voodoo 3 3000 AGP The only thing that I will be changing before JKII hits the shelves, is my graphics card. I plan to go with a GeForceII Ultra or a GeForceIII. All depends on what gives me the best performance with my current system.
GonkH8er Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Jediknight- P1 133 16meg RAM 1 meg S3 video card (YESSS!!!!) No Internet!!! Now- P2 350 196meg RAM 32 meg Matrox Millenium G400 DH 33.6k modem (groan) Wishes for then- P3 900+ 256+meg RAM GeForce 2 or above Cable i find what ive got now, bar the modem, quite adequete for all games i play apart from tribes 2 im not fussy. just whatever runs the damn thing. ill live with 30 fps
Guest Sherack Nhar Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Hi guys! For those who don't know, I'm from the defunct OWK.net! My rig: 1.2 ghz Thunderbird 256 MB RAM Matrox G450 SBLive! Value Maxtor 30 gig @ 7200 rpm My rig when JK2 comes out: 1.2 ghz Thunderbird 256 MB RAM SBLive! Value Maxtor 30 gig @ 7200 rpm Geforce 3 or 4, depends on the price
ed_silvergun Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Originally posted by Jedi_Killer: <STRONG>The P4 is much faster if the software is compiled for the P4's architecture. In regular old non-optimized applications Athlons of much lower clock speed are faster. But since Windows XP is supposed to be optimized for the P4 its going to be interesting to see what happens.</STRONG> Interestingly enough, and it was only as I was reading this topic that this occurred to me, P4 shows its muscle best in Quake III engine games, due to the processor optimisation which Mr. Carmack had the foresight to build into the engine. In general terms, Athlons do make better buys as they are a lot cheaper, and in most applications perform as well as if not better than similarly-clocked P4s. Quake III-based games are a notable exception to this rule, though. Hence, if you're thinking about upgrading mainly to be able to play JK II, this is a fact yyou might well want to bear in mind.
Wilhuf Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Some of us are considering an upgrade from a GeForce 2 to a GeForce3. Will it really be worth it? Thresh's Firingsquad's benchmarks do not show a significant improvement in FPS in the upgrade from GF2 to GF3 without antialiasing at 1024x768 and at other resolutions. On the other hand, with antialiasing, the GF3 outperforms the GF2. Most other new features in the GF3 aren't even supported in current 3d PC games. See the benchmarks.
ed_silvergun Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Dead right. If you want antialiasing, buy a GeForce 3, if you don't you'll be just as happy with your GeForce 2. NVidia have openly stated that GeForce 3 is targetted at people running games at 1024x768, 1280x1024 or above with antialiasing. Those are the resolutions for which it is optimised. Although people running games in lower resolutions or without FSAA will notice some speed increase due to the GeForce 3's increased power, the framerate increases simply don't justify the financial outlay. Anyway, given that new, improved versions of the GeForce 3 will hit the shelves this autumn, pushing prices of earlier GeForce 3s and GeForce 2s down, if you have a GeForce or GeForce 2 now, you'd be best advised to wait a few months. The Team Arena engine isn't optimised for the new GeForce 3 features anyway, so the only reason I can see to buy a GeForce 3 right now is acute impatience or a peculiar fetish for antialiasing.
KillerBee Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 The G3 will definitly be worth it in a year. as games will be using the new tech it supports that the g2s don't.. Thats why I am putting off upgrading a year. I can live with 500mhz and a s**t card for a year to get a better preformance in jk2.
Red_XIIII Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 P4's will be good, as by the time Jk2 gets out it will have SSe2 support, as most games are incorparting it, any p4 that has software writting for sse2 will be faster then an athlon. Its Just like the transition for Non MMX machines to MMX takes time for software.
DrIfTeR Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 Now: P2 550 256 ram Cable 12gig hd geforce 3 64 mb When JKII Comes out: P4 1.7 ghz 1gig ram Cable 40.9 gig hd Geforce 3 64 mb
Finalnight Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 JK- K6-2 300 Mhz 128 MB RAM Voodoo 2 8 MB Now K6-2 300 Mhz 128 MB RAM TNT 2 32 MB JKII (actually wil lhave this by July) Dual 1.8 Ghz AMD Palminos 512 MB DDR-DRAM Nvidia NV25 (GeForce 3 Ultra) [ June 04, 2001: Message edited by: Finalnight ] BTW, it will be built by me again like my old one. [ June 04, 2001: Message edited by: Finalnight ]
magnus1587246491 Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 You all got power machines. I have to wright down my ones and zeroes on a piece of paper, send it through a digital translator, which will then send these digits in to my computer. When it comes out again I have to make some sense of it and do it all again. That about how fast my computer is...
SithTexasDeath Posted June 4, 2001 Posted June 4, 2001 What I had when JK1 came out: Heheh here go p2 400 128 megs 13 inch pREsarrio 8 meg Diamond Viper 8 gig hd Currently: P3 550 DVD CDR CDROM 128 megs sdram 8.gig HD Gigabytebx2000 Hercules 3d prphet ultra 2 Geforce2ultra chipset 64ddr 17inch dell trinitron Hope to Have P4 1.5 1000 megs ddram 1.0 gig Hd AsusMotherboard G43 Ultra on a hercules Running dirctly to My brand new HDTV [ June 04, 2001: Message edited by: Armand ] [ June 04, 2001: Message edited by: Armand ]
TheJackal_jk2 Posted June 5, 2001 Posted June 5, 2001 At the moment: CPU: P4 1400 MHz RAM: 258 MB SDRAM GFX: geForce2 Deluxe MX - 32MB AGP When JK2 comes out: ... I wont upgrade untill I see a huge difference. My last system was 450MHz. Notice the big difference? I don't do small jumps of system specs. Up here in Canada it costs too much.
[HEL]Diablos Posted June 5, 2001 Posted June 5, 2001 Current: Athlon Classic 700mhz 256mb sdram 20gigs Geforce 1 DDR Future(2-6months) Nforce or Asus DDR mobo Athlon 1.4ghz or Athlon4 1.7 ghz 256 pc2100 or 2700 DDR ram 80 gigs Geforce 3 64mb DDR(Asus v8200 or Elsa) And TheJackal, it does cost alot up here in Vancouver B.C [ June 05, 2001: Message edited by: [HEL]Diablos ]
Guest digl Posted June 5, 2001 Posted June 5, 2001 JK (dont laugh) 468 66mhz 400 Mb HD 32 Mb ram Now Athlon TB 800 Mhz 128 Mb ram 40 Gb Then I only hope to have the last Geforce available
ed_silvergun Posted June 6, 2001 Posted June 6, 2001 Originally posted by Red_XIIII: <STRONG>P4's will be good, as by the time Jk2 gets out it will have SSe2 support, as most games are incorparting it, any p4 that has software writting for sse2 will be faster then an athlon. Its Just like the transition for Non MMX machines to MMX takes time for software.</STRONG> The Quake III engine already has support for SSE2. Those were the very "processor optimizations" I was referring to earlier. Originally posted by Armand: <STRONG>What I had when JK1 came out: Heheh here go p2 400 128 megs 13 inch pREsarrio 8 meg Diamond Viper 8 gig hd</STRONG> You had a P2 400 in October 1997?
Swoosh Posted June 6, 2001 Posted June 6, 2001 Sorry digl...I laughed. It's ok, my pops is still using a 286 for some dos program he runs. I think I ran this back in the JK days -200 MMX -Sierra Screamin' 3D (Rendition Verte 1000) or Orchid Righteous 3D (The first Voodoo card) -96 Mb RAM -1 Gb HD -Aureal Vortex sound card Swoosh
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