X-Vector Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 Originally posted by Sifl: <STRONG>Okay, I just can't let this slide. The game's been in development for, what, 4 or 5 months? And from the reviews it sounds like it plays great and will kick ass. </STRONG> Ugh, did you actually read all of my post or just the bit you decided you wanted to take offence to? Here I go (again): I sincerely hope this is just early work and the graphics will be massively improved by the time JK2 is released BTW, there are no JKII reviews yet, it's still in development remember? I share your excitement for the game, but please, let's not jump to conclusions. Well, actually I've been known to jump to conclusions about Duke Nukem Forever, that it's going to be the best FPS ever and all, but hey - that's DNF, that's different. There's just no way DNF can fail. JKII should be out in Spring 2002, so it takes 1 year. Don't say things like that, it's bad for my heart. I firmly believe that it has become practically impossible to create a first class game combining style *with* substance nowadays in under 1.5 years (possibly even 2). Perhaps Raven is using the Force though, I don't know. BTW, AFAIK Raven have been working on JKII since February, so if the game *is* released around May, it will have been in development for longer than a year. Interactivity is next to nil (you can break maybe three or 4 different kinds of things, can't shoot down doors, etc, etc) So exactly how much interactivity have you seen in the JKII screenshots and video so far? How uber-interactive was Elite Force or SoF? How does this relate to JKII? It doesn't, but someone had to rebut. I know how you feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Vector Posted August 1, 2001 Share Posted August 1, 2001 Perhaps it would be fairer to compare apples with apples though. Here are some screenshots from a 'rival' Q3 engine game in development that *does* IMO sport quite a bit more texture detail than the current JKII shots, 1, 2, 3. Not too shabby, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 well i would have to say that, yes the tex, and general artecture looks somewhat better, but think about this for a minute. did this game have to have a sophisticated system like force powers developed? im sure that developing the force powers were one of the main points, and took a lot of time away form textures and other aspects. so, later im sure that they will be compairable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreTZeL Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 how long has this "other" game been in the works? certainly longer than just a few months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancor Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 The truth is, we have no idea whether the screenshots are representative of the final product or not. I'm guessing that it's not because of some obvious texturing artefacts ( poorly aligned, lo-res, whatever ). I can't recall any Raven game released in the past couple of years that shipped with obvious things like this. If they are doing their job, they will be focusing on AI, force powers, weapons and gameplay... and will tweak the texturing and lighting later. I don't know that we should expect perfection so early in development. [ August 01, 2001: Message edited by: Rancor ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_silvergun Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 Originally posted by acdcfanbill: <STRONG>ed, jedi cannot pull sabers outta each others hands, i would assume, the other is prob retreving it (i think its been said before).</STRONG> I know Jedi can't pull sabers out of each others' hands, and I know this has been brought up before. That's why I was wondering about the screenshot having the title "disarming". Is this a simple mistake on IGN's part, or is it something Raven have got wrong? <STRONG>as to the scopes on imps rifles, there were on every rifle in the movies and JK and Mots, and prob DF(i havent played it). just like there is a scope on the Blastec pistole, but you dont use it ever...</STRONG> There were scopes on the rifles in DF, but there were none visible on the trooper rifles in JK. In MotS you could get a scope attachment for your trooper rifle. PS: Go and play DF now. This second. Or I'll send you to bed with no supper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 The Yavin 4 level looks great the mist and what ever fog effect in place looks cool. I hope we the chance to explore a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhuf Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 Just because Jedis couldn't pull each other's lightsabers in JK/MotS doesn't mean this rule will apply in JKO. ...so many assumptions about how JK0 will follow the same rules set by JK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 first off, look at the rifles again, i know they have scopes. i especially remember it when their spinning around as ammo, and its visible on you gun in first person veiw too i think, i dont remimber about 3rd pov. Wilhuf, as to pulling sabers out of jedi's hands, its just an accepted SW thing that you cannot do that. not something from JK/MotS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wanderer Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 besides that it's an established thing, I mean, just imagine how utterly ANNOYING that would be. saber battles would be like this... someone pulls the saber out of your hands right in the middle of a good fight, you pull it back, someone pulls the saber out of your hands again, you pull the sabers out of their hands, they pull yours into their hand, you pull theirs into your hand, then you pull the saber out of their hand.... and I don't feel like having to use force absorb constantly. just obnoxious. it'd be one of those things people like WD-Torment would do all the time because the only things he cares about is winning, and the kind of thing that people who just want to have fun playing the game will complain about, so I hope they just don't impliment it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhuf Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 I agree 100% it would be obnoxious, which is why I doubt what we are seeing is a lightsaber being force pulled to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kettch Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 I like the "red fog" gore effect. It shows the blood evaporating, very SWish and realistic because you can see in EI Darth Maul's blood evaporate when Obi-Wan cut him into two halfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 I know a way of disarming your opponent, take the had off completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.H.A.S. Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 I love the screens, and the light blood, and the fog, and the trails, and the, and the, and the, and the,.....there's just too many. And like everyone else I'm sure I like to snipe the mouse bots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifl Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 Originally posted by X-Vector: <STRONG>Here are some screenshots from a 'rival' Q3 engine game in development</STRONG> And this game is...? Anyway, my point is not to play "which game looks better" but to point out that gameplay is the most important thing. JK looked pretty lame but was game of the year, FAKK2 was beautiful but essentially sucked and was forgotten. So getting too excited over screenshots just seems silly. And that's all I have to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifl Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 Originally posted by X-Vector: <STRONG>Here are some screenshots from a 'rival' Q3 engine game in development that *does* IMO sport quite a bit more texture detail than the current JKII shots</STRONG> I don't get it... in your first post you were (apparently) complaining about architectural detail, yet in these screenshots you posted, you see maybe 3 walls, max, and the third picture has horrible texture work. And the models aren't even all that high poly. Yeah, it's colorful, and the textures on the models are high res, but is that what the big deal is? I don't see how these screenshots illustrate your original point. And, besides, they're just screenshots anyway and don't say anything about the game itself. And that's *really* all I have to say about that... for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kurgan Posted August 2, 2001 Share Posted August 2, 2001 There were scopes on the rifles in DF, but there were none visible on the trooper rifles in JK. In MotS you could get a scope attachment for your trooper rifle. Yes, go play JK and MotS again, there ARE scopes on all of the Stormtrooper rifles, clearly visible if you look. Of course none of them are functional (until you pick up the scope item in MotS). And yes, the BlasTech pistol in MotS also has a scope you never use. I would guess just limitations in the realism, etc. After all, even with the "sniper rifle" in MotS, you still shoot from the hip. ; ) Kurgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 shoot from the hip, well, as long as you keep a stiff upper lip i guess its ok. but anyway, the second shot of the *other* game looks like something that would be from Wolfenstein. the first two looked a lot like Nazi troopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denise Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 I would think the captions were IGN's doing, so reading much into the "disarming" label seems premature. **shrug** I mean, the Dark Jedi is obviously disarmED, but if the only reason to speculate on the means by which they came to be so is the "ing" rather than the "ed" suffix... what's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilhuf Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 Eh, well we have little to go on, so we make the most (or even too much) of what we can get from LEC/Raven. I agree though it's possible to read way too much into a picture caption. Like I said on an earlier thread about a stormtroopers pic "OH MY GOD THE STORMTROOPERS TOE SPIKES AREN'T CORRECTLY RENDERED." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 The screens are okay. But I was hoping someone managed to get out with some viedo fotage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 I think we need more screens from the actual game . Im looking forward to screenshots when the game is nearer to completion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted August 3, 2001 Share Posted August 3, 2001 im just looking foward!! ...to the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted August 4, 2001 Share Posted August 4, 2001 Originally posted by nykel: <STRONG>The screens are okay. But I was hoping someone managed to get out with some viedo fotage. </STRONG> maybe they did..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainRAVE Posted August 4, 2001 Share Posted August 4, 2001 Maybe in a few months we will see actualy ingame footage . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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