Guardian Omega Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 He said this game requires absolutely no brain and is very bloody. (same attitude on JK, so I snuck played....) That was ironic because he uses almost no strategies, because he plays mostly money maps and build mass goons on Starcraft. Still he is steadfast in his position and is getting ready to ban the game. Any ideas? Also thats the first time he said ban on a game, so I'm thinking he's really going to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Pay tribute to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digl Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 look on the web for serious investigatoins and researchs about violence and video games. Games do not make (normal people) more violent. I would tell your dad to know something before he starts speaking about it, I can't stand people who talk about things they have no idea. He'd probably be more angry if you say that to him tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 huh??? bloody?!!?!? COOL!!!!! I didn't know Jedi Outcast had blood in it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millions o' Monkeys Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 lol yeah i havnt got that far yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoast2895 Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 if you wanna rebuke the point that it takes no brain, first show him the reviews of people being pissed off at puzzles. if people can get pissed at doing a puzzle means there some brain work. also there is brain work in developing how to fight with the lightsaber and just getting through the game. if you do just run and gun you won't make it, not with a good amount of life anyways. also the big point i would use, your a jedi in the game combating your own personal darkness. isn't learning how to resist the temptation of the darkside important in day to day life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanMO Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 First thing you do is give your dad a big hug for actually giving a ****. Most parents dont care or monitor what there kids do. Then tell him you appreciate why he feeels this way , but you would like him to reconsider. Show him the reveiws about the diificult puzzles and tell him there is no blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadDoofer Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Its not bloody, it does require some stategy, and it is as fun as hell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue15 Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Originally posted by seanMO First thing you do is give your dad a big hug for actually giving a ****. Most parents dont care or monitor what there kids do. Then tell him you appreciate why he feeels this way , but you would like him to reconsider. Show him the reveiws about the diificult puzzles and tell him there is no blood. ya, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvt_Dancer Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 First thing you do is give your dad a big hug for actually giving a ****. Most parents dont care or monitor what there kids do. Then tell him you appreciate why he feeels this way , but you would like him to reconsider. Show him the reveiws about the diificult puzzles and tell him there is no blood. That is the best idea to date. You have to make sure he doesn't think you are handing him a line of bull to get what you want though. Have him watch the movies with you. Talk about the violence in a mature manner allowing him to see that, although there is imaginary violence in the game (without blood), you feel able to discern between actual life and the violence and situations found in the game. Tell him that you just love Star Wars and want to be able to experience the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Omega Posted April 13, 2002 Author Share Posted April 13, 2002 Ah, guys, one problem according to the puzzles. Some people say that the puzzles are nothing more than find the switch or door. He might notice this and I'll be in a position of deep ****. I really appreciate the tips and may need more, because I'm afraid one screw up and I'll be in deep **** in untrustability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kylilin Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 beg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Bribe him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Here's an idea: Challenge him to play it first. Once he spends an hour of cursing while trying to figure out a puzzle, he will be turned away from the no brain argument. Then, have him play some of the other shooters out there. Quake III, Soldier of fortune II, Alien vs. Predator II, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, etc. After comparing this to it's competitors, this is a babies game in terms of blood and violence, since there is no blood or gore, and the most you can do without cheats, is cut an arm off every now and then. Which shows no blood or anything. However, once he plays it, he may very well be hooked on it therefore not giving you a chance. But, seriously, have him play it first. What do you have to lose? With his unfounded opinions, you aren't playing it anyway, so what's another few weeks while he is turned. Also, show him other LucasArts titles, and inform him of their clean, all audiences track record as well as all of Lucas' stuff. None of the movies are more than PG, and none of the games are more than Teen. Also, let him know that the "violence inducing" stuff that people have **** fits about (laser tag, video games, violent movies, etc.) actually make people less violent in real life, is a great stress reducer, and improves reflexes and hand/eye cordination. So, to sum it up, 1. ask him to play the game 2. show him the game's competitors (pick the really bloody ones) 3. inform him of LEC's "for everyone" track record 4. Look for studies online about violence being atributed to video games and such so that can be proved wrong. 5. Let him know that my parents don't allow me to play anything that they deem too violent (quake, RtCW, SoFII etc.) (and they are very strict about it), and have fully approved of this one. So, that's all I got on it. If that doesn't work, then you have my pity because it is really a great game that so far hasn't made me more violent or killed brain cells or anything. If all these things fail, then you could try begging, but otherwise you may be SOL. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 how about this; tell him to play the game. after the first level's puzzle ask him if it does not take brain-power....... then if/when he finds any "blood" tell him to come on the fourms and tell us what he did...... all you have to do is flip one bit the the CFG and you will never see any thing remotely(sp?) vialont....... or order a copy from germany, rtcw was illegal there.......... btw how old are you? we need a idea of how to come at this problem. also try and cut him off by level 6 when you get the sniper rifle... think 60s star trek disintagrations... its really cheeseie, but it might come acrose wrong....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardz Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 show him the 11+ rating on the box. Go into town to your nearest EB and get a store person (not some idiot who just grunts at you) to explain its NOT gory and it requires logic. Tell him this guy called wardz on the forum is doing A levels and he is still stuck on level 3! Tell your dad its just like the films (asuming he knows the films are a U rating) U=Universal Get your mum involved. They may be a pain but playing one off against the other can sometmies work. Fortunately for me I never had this problem. Mum bought me Duke Nuken 3D when I was 12. hahahahahaha. she thought it was funny. -W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Spirit Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue15 Pay tribute to him. HAHAHAHAHAA :lol: was i the only 1 who found that really funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMaximilian Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Just use mind trick, he'd probly even go buy the game for you under the influence of the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Omega Posted April 13, 2002 Author Share Posted April 13, 2002 In reponse to the age question, I am about 13 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechstra Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Hey, I'm 14, my dad has no problems with me playing JK II. He even watches me play, but he doesn't like blood. Wardz, good to see another Brit here, I thought I was inundated with Americans. Plus, Guardian Omega, point out to your dad that Starcraft actually has quite a lot of blood in it, and that JK II has none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkbroiler Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Yeah, have you seen those guys exploding in starcraft?? Seriously, though, when i wanted Grim Fandango but my mom wouldn't let me get it, I compiled a 2-3 page paper of the ratings and various quotes JKII earned. Included was proof that Grim Fandango is suitable for all ages. Apparently, this showed my maturity or something, and voila! i had the game. Thought that might help.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'akt Sangwar Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 i dont wanna sound odd but how can ure parents stop u buyiong a game jsut go out and get it they cant make u take it back lol well, my mind was probly warped by gta when i was younger aaah wait it was probly playing postal i love that game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACGe0rge Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 I'm 26 and live by myself so I dont have to worry about parents or anyone else deciding what I buy but I do feel for you kid. I agree with some of the above post about how to explain to your dad why you can handle the violence in the game and that you appreciate his concern for your wellbeing. I do have to say that Starcraft is a much more bloody and violent game. If playing that game hasn't given you any violent tendancies, than I dont see how JK2 will. My suggestion is not only to have your dad play the game first, but actually play it with you. Take turns every 10 minutes or so or after every time your character gets fragged in multiplayer. Also, make sure you buy it from somewhere like Babbages that will let you return it after it's opened so if he still objects you can get a refund. Good luck kid and MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU (sorry, I had to throw that in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobotomist Posted April 16, 2002 Share Posted April 16, 2002 Look i am 28 And i am a passionate gamer since i am 6 years old.I had the same problem with my dad.And it only made me more passionate. But i shun violence in real life, i am also artist (painter)... so all this bull about games making people violent. Only thing that makes one violent is their sorounding (gangs and such)... Keep on gaming And let the force be with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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