Dough with Fish Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Something just hit me today, and that is WTF happened to Naboo? The reason I ask this is because it seems to be one of the prime planets of the Old Republic, not only that, but of the SW universe overall. For example, Palpatine was a senator of Naboo before becoming chancelor then empreror. Also Padme is the mother of the most important characters in the SW universe, and she comes from there. So where is it? In all the movies from the classic trilogy, its not mentioned once, and in all the EU books that take place between EpIII and EpIV and the EU books from ROTJ on, its not mentioned AT ALL! So, does anyone know? Or is this just a VERY big plot hole in the SW universe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 I wouldn't say it's a major plot hole, there just isn't any reason for it to come up...I mean where in the original trilogy was anything that related to Naboo talked about?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 me? I would think that naboo is the death star's first kill but thats just me:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dough with Fish Posted June 6, 2002 Author Share Posted June 6, 2002 Who says there wasn't any reason to mention it? Just because it wasn't mentioned dosen't mean its not important. But its not the original trilogy having no mention of it, its the EU books. There are like 40 of them from ANH up, and none of them mention Naboo. And for a planet that seemed to be very impotant to just have no mention at all, well, that just seems to be a bit strange to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyJAllTheWay Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Originally posted by Vestril I mean where in the original trilogy was anything that related to Naboo talked about?... I think that's what he's saying... It should have been mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Lost a planet, Dough with fish has. Embarrassing this is. Embarrassing indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 I think that's what he's saying... It should have been mentioned. He's saying it should have been mentioned--I'm saying that there is no reason for it to have been mentioned. Try to think of a discussion in the OT where Naboo would have fit in...there wasn't one. It's like Artoo's rockets, you could ask why they weren't in the OT, but then if you think back, there really aren't any parts where they would have been useful. As for the EU, I may have to let you in on a secret about that...*whispers*George Lucas doesn't care about the EU, he probably knew that he would have an important planet named Naboo all along, but withheld the information because he hates us all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbas WhOr3 Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 My crap interpretation In Germany nobody talks about the Holocaust. In Star Wars none talks about Naboo?? Hmmmm weird!? Maybe the Naboos turn into genocidal physco's in EPIII and are intent on killing off everything not Nabooish! ahhh im hurting onthe inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 I'm guessing Anakin tears Naboo apart in a vain attempt at reclaiming Padme. He will not find her, because Obi-Wan knew that Naboo wouldn't be a safe place to hide her--so instead, he takes her to Alderaan to be a handmaid in the service of the Organas (to whom she gives Leia to raise as their own daughter). If that is indeed the senario that plays out in Episode III, Naboo will be ripped apart by the time of the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOneCanoli Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 There's a theory out there that Dagobah is actually Naboo. I'm not sure if a buy it though, as it seems pretty far-fetched. Something to the effect of Anakin severely crippling the planet after some traumatic event (loss of Padme?). The Dark Force would then serve to cancel out Yoda's lightside energy, thus rendering him invisible to Vader's and Palpatine's feelings. If Luke was born on Naboo, then his comment about it seeming familiar would be right-on. I admit, some parts make a bit of sense, but I'll take it with a grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosexual Ewok Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Originally posted by SPY_jmr1 me? I would think that naboo is the death star's first kill but thats just me:D It's been a while since I watched ANH, but wasn't there a line about Leia's pad being the Death Stars first kill? I could swear it was Tarkin that said something like that right before he blasted her old man's planet to dust. Personally, I think Dagobah is/was Naboo, after being ravaged by war. And wouldn't it be cool if that dark side cave just happens to be where a certain "Count" gets his ass handed to him by Yoda, who then stays there in seclusion as the galaxy falls apart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyJAllTheWay Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Originally posted by OnlyOneCanoli There's a theory out there that Dagobah is actually Naboo. I'm not sure if a buy it though, as it seems pretty far-fetched. Something to the effect of Anakin severely crippling the planet after some traumatic event (loss of Padme?). The Dark Force would then serve to cancel out Yoda's lightside energy, thus rendering him invisible to Vader's and Palpatine's feelings. If Luke was born on Naboo, then his comment about it seeming familiar would be right-on. I admit, some parts make a bit of sense, but I'll take it with a grain of salt. Some of it does make sense... I'd buy it. *Punches some numbers on the phone* Hello, Mr. President... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 re: naboo in the EU in the NJO series of books there is a map in the front and back, showing the battle lines before and after. on some of them at least(have not read the newest ones) naboo is listed as a planet. but this was post EP1. SPY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryd0r Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 maybe because george lucas is a bastard gay, and decided to bring in completely new planets. In episode 3 he might be insane enough to bring in a planet called "Earth" - you wont find that on any star map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Naboo - personally as much as it seems to have plenty of screen time in the PT, what events really happen there? One - the Trade Federation Blockade..... As much as some of the major characters are from there, Naboo isn't the hive of activity and treachery that many of you seem to think it is. It is places like Geonosis, and where the Clone Wars take place that will make Naboo seem like something so small it wasn't funny. It is 10 years before the start of the Clone Wars, and isn't the biggest thing known in the SW universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Based on what Naboo and Alderaan look like in the movies from space, they don't look even close to possibly being the same. But, that doesnt mean anything.... I doubt Dagobah and Naboo are the same since the SW Universe book shows them in entirely different systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elegy Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 You guys are forgetting one thing; Goerge Lucas does not consider all the various 40-60 books to be his universe. He said it himself in an interview when commenting about Boba Fett. As for it not being mentioned in the originals, neither was Coruscant. The OT took place around the outer rim of the galaxy in all the movies because those were the places that the rebellion liked to hide. So that was where all the conflicts took place. I don't find it to be much of a plothole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datheus Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 Lost an entire planet Master Obi Won has... How embarrasing, yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dough with Fish Posted June 7, 2002 Author Share Posted June 7, 2002 Well, if Lucas dosen't consider the books for anything more than, well, books, why did he then decide to use Coruscant as the capitol world in the movies? After all, it was first used in a book... And Spy, I checked one of my pre-ep1 NJO books last night, guess what, no Naboo on the starmap, but then I checked one of the more recent ones, and guess what, theres Naboo. Kind of odd how a planet just appears out thin air on a stapmap, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techsurfer Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 Actually Coruscant is mentioned in ANH when talking about the Old Republic being abolished! Dagobah cannot be Naboo - wrong climate and it is OBVIOUSLY a seperate planet and the EU talks about it separately! Naboo was probably assigned an Imperial garrison or outpost and that was it! All the people would have been slaves to the Empire and the monarchy abolished! So why would this Imperial controlled world be of any interest to the OT which focusses on the Rebellion, who would not be so STUPID as to go to another worthless Imperial planet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryd0r Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 I didn't hear anything about Coruscant in ANH, though i havent watched it in a while. Which part did they mention it? A different climate? so what? it's the future! they could use some giant super weapon to ravage the world! And if EU talks about them differently, what says they're different in the films? George Lucas may take some ideas from the books, but the universes arent the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted June 8, 2002 Share Posted June 8, 2002 well, obiwan lost a planet, maybe the galaxy lost one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY_jmr1 Posted June 8, 2002 Share Posted June 8, 2002 Originally posted by acdcfanbill well, obiwan lost a planet, maybe the galaxy lost one... this might be it, there are no padawans left to find the damn things:D 68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted June 8, 2002 Share Posted June 8, 2002 Originally posted by SPY_jmr1 this might be it, there are no padawans left to find the damn things:D 68 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! 98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GidionTheDead Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Who says there wasn't any reason to mention it? Just because it wasn't mentioned dosen't mean its not important. But its not the original trilogy having no mention of it, its the EU books. There are like 40 of them from ANH up, and none of them mention Naboo. And for a planet that seemed to be very impotant to just have no mention at all, well, that just seems to be a bit strange to me. Well, first of all disregard all EU (I like Timothy Zahn, but it's not official). Naboo didn't exist in Star Wars, until Lucas invented it, and therefore it doesn't exist at all in the Zahn, Anderson, Stackpole, or whatever novels. Something just hit me today, and that is WTF happened to Naboo? The reason I ask this is because it seems to be one of the prime planets of the Old Republic, not only that, but of the SW universe overall. For example, Palpatine was a senator of Naboo before becoming chancelor then empreror. Also Padme is the mother of the most important characters in the SW universe, and she comes from there. So where is it? In all the movies from the classic trilogy, its not mentioned once, and in all the EU books that take place between EpIII and EpIV and the EU books from ROTJ on, its not mentioned AT ALL! So, does anyone know? Or is this just a VERY big plot hole in the SW universe? A prime planet? It has a human society more-or-less skilled in mining and an Alien Race without interstellar (or even interplanetar) technology. Another example: Tell me, where Hitler was born? No, don't say Germany. Tell me the name of the city... yeah, I am waiting... Palpatine was the leader of an Intergalactic Empire, which was important and a well known fact. But there was no need to know the name of the small planet he was born on. Coruscant and important planets like Corellia and Nar Shaddaa are a must. Naboo is just an unimportant planet in the Outer Rim. who cares about it? And while we are talking about it: Originally posted by Jabbas WhOr3 My crap interpretation In Germany nobody talks about the Holocaust. In Star Wars none talks about Naboo?? Hmmmm weird!? Maybe the Naboos turn into genocidal physco's in EPIII and are intent on killing off everything not Nabooish! ahhh im hurting onthe inside Well, they wouldn't talk about it, but they would have rather stupid and boring holonet documentations about it at least twice a week. *yawn* (Although I must admit that Hitler's women was quite interesting. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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