Jake Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 I think this thread is the thing that gets increasingly dumb. And Gilbert made Monkey 2, which is where the "Bucket of mud" line came from... So I can't see how that is evidence of the games going downhill after he left? Anyway, see the first line of this post again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 the bucket of mud thing wasn't trying to prove the downfall of monkey isalnd after gilbert, i new very well where it was from and when gilbert left, it was meant to prove that guybrush was dumb and ignorant in the first two. if you want proof of him being more dumb and ignorant in the second two, play the games and you'll see how. but agree with jake, this is getting increasingly dumb, so lets stop now before this gets really dumb (it has happened, you can't deny it) Peace;) Josh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabb Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 Monkey Island threads appear in the weirdist places. Oh, and Remi, someone stole your avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remi Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 Well it is one that's available for all. Still, who? He will have to die. ¬ ¬ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabb Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Originally posted by RemiO Well it is one that's available for all. Still, who? He will have to die. ¬ ¬ TEH EVIL SKINKIE He lives in OHIO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted July 13, 2002 Share Posted July 13, 2002 Originally posted by scabb Monkey Island threads appear in the weirdist places. that just goes to show how quickly a thread can change topic, this started off as a Kathy Soucie thread and suddenly we're talking about guybrush threepwood. if y'all want to do that, go to the monkey island forum of lucasforums, that's what it's there for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scabb Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 Originally posted by Neil Joshi that just goes to show how quickly a thread can change topic, this started off as a Kathy Soucie thread and suddenly we're talking about guybrush threepwood. if y'all want to do that, go to the monkey island forum of lucasforums, that's what it's there for. Why don't YOU go to the monkey island forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 actually i've been there since last december (that one kinda backfired on ya didn't it) but if you're suggesting that i leave the FT forums, well i wont because i like FT as much as MI and won't leave because one person wants me to. if you're not suggesting that then lets forget this whole thing ever happened. Peace Neil:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Adventurer Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 I personaly DON't Think its Mo. Mostly because she was acting WAY to ditzy to be Mo. The Writers/animators whould(hopefuly) not destroy a charicter like that. I personaly think she's a runaway who winds up getting ben into a HEAP load of trouble. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatjohnkid Posted July 27, 2002 Share Posted July 27, 2002 Sorry to break it to you adventurer, but that HAS to be mo. If you pause the video, when it does a close up on her, and then look at a picture of her from FT1, the hair is exactly the same shape. I don't think they would give someone else mo's hair. I really WISH it wase'nt mo, or at least they dont make her charcter like the tiny (and horrible) glimpse that we got in the trailer, but with what i have seen, i am very convinced that they ruined mo. I also have to say that i don't like what they have done with FT2 for the most part. The 3d enviroments look great, but the charcters look poorly done. Ben just does not look like ben, and the fact that he isent going to sound like ben is going to make matters worse. I dont think they captured the whole "black lines for eyes" style (witch kicked @$$ btw). I hope they arent going to leave the charcter models the way they are, cause they are nothing like the orriginal right now. I think they should give up on the black line eyes thing, and go for normal eyes. That did appear in full throttle though they were'nt as common as the black line eyes. I also go the hint that ben puts a lot more "emotion" in his actions then in ft1. I dont know quite how to explain it, but he seemed a lot less "calm" then he did in ft1. I personally think that this will ruin the Ben charcter. All the negative points put aside, it looks like ben is going to be a little more bad assed. That combined with the fact that it IS a full throttle sequal, will probably prusuade me to buy it, if my fears are realised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOne Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 Incredible what all kinda things people can assume out of two minutes long camera shot FT2 trailer that wasn't even released to the general public. FT2 doesn't even have a webpage yet, there is almost no info to be found on the game. The only thing I can safely assume out of all this is that the game is still in early productions stage. So we aren't going to see it for some time and a lot can be changed for good or for bad. I know that this short trailer is the only material we've got to work on, but saying things like Ben doesn't look as calm as he did in FT1? This assumed from the action sequences in the trailer, but as far as I know, in a trailer you ussually put interesting scenes which show a lot of action, Ben got a fair share of action in FT1 as well nad made a few really nasty faces. But the trailer could just show Ben calmly riding out in the dessert for two minutes, then we could all say, yep Ben is as calm and cool as he was in FT1. About Ben's 3D model I personally think it's made very good, of course the resolution isn't that good on the trailer, but I still like it, of course it isn't right to compare it to a cartoon drawn character (of course there's no other way here), it would be like comparing a computer made character to a live actor, to a degree you can, but that's it. As for Mo, well, we'll see, it's still to early to say anything, but I don't think it's that bad. Really liked the original hope they make a good job out of it, this could bring adventure games back, where escape from Monkey island failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 you know, that's a good point. i don't know of any other site which has this trailer apart from Mojo which is the basic place for lucasfans. so they may have put this up as a 'what we've got so far' movies so they can read what we "the fans" think and change it accordingly. so for all we know, thatmay have been there idea of mo, but she could be different in teh final result. and ben may be slightly calmer in the end product, or, if allowed, able to kick anyones arse whilst still holding his dignity anf heir of ambiguity. what do you think? (now this thread is being productive. finally.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manny_c444 Posted August 14, 2002 Share Posted August 14, 2002 I think if Lucasarts is looking on messageboards for game design ideas, thats pretty bad. Usually a designer probably has a clear concept of what he will do and what the characters will be like in the game. I personally don't see too much Mo in the girl in the trailer. Because she is clumsy with bikes and what not. The game producer probably has a very good concept of how that character (who probably isn't Mo) will act and how that will fit into the game's story. Even though that was pretty preliminary the scenes shown were obviously FMV. If they have FMV done of the game they probably have a good bit of the game felshed out already....Lucasarts usually doesn't show its games off until they are pretty far along in production already. I remember the first previews of Grim Fandango in Computer gaming world had screenshots of locals ranging from Manny's office...to the boat in the middle of the game....and then to the final temple at the end of the game. The game's story and feel was already complete. It took a while for it to come out, but the game was practically finished in the design aspect. I image Full Throttle 2 is also further along in production then one might think, and that not much will change as we get more information. BTW Slovenija forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young_zev Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Okay, first off, the video wasn't "obviously" anything... and FMV refers to "Full Motion Video", as in, live actors shot on video, and then compressed into digital movies. The term came out as a result of streaming CD technology, that allowed video to stream "full-motion" for the first time, as opposed to single shots. Second, your statement about LucasArts not releasing information about games until they're "pretty far along in production" doesn't make any sense. They obviously had to preview Grim WAY before it came out, I'm sure it wasn't nearly done. And they say FT2 isn't coming out til 2003! That trailer looked like a TEASER to me.. you know, like they do with movies a year before they come out. They don't need to have everything done to create a TEASER trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 you know, i think it was a teaser, with no actual dialogue or a hint of the storyline, they are probably in the middle of the whole proccess and are so sure that they will finish it, they gave out a little teaser. that's what most games do, when the game designers are far enough through making a game that they know it will come out in the next year or so, they will put out a teaser to make people anxious instead of just telling you a few months before release. broken sword three was announced about a year ago and that's not coming out until oct 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Whatsisname Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Originally posted by Neil Joshi you know, that's a good point. i don't know of any other site which has this trailer apart from Mojo which is the basic place for lucasfans. The Kickstand has 2 different trailers up, both "unofficial". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 hmm, a little off the record advertisement there i think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Whatsisname Posted August 16, 2002 Share Posted August 16, 2002 Originally posted by Neil Joshi hmm, a little off the record advertisement there i think? If you wanna call it that. lol Still, the truth is that I have made both the "multimedia.it capture" and "unno edit" trailers available, with different scenes in each (with some overlapping, of course - they probably only had so much footage to work with for the lec titles animation and ft2 trailer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manny_c444 Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 I'm not saying the game is anywhere close to finished. I'm just saying the story and characters are already all figured out and finalized by now. They would never show a teaser unless they had something to back it up. And they did mention the name of the town it'll take place in, so I'm pretty sure the conceptualization part of the project is complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOne Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Heh, I go away for a few days to my girlfriend and the posts fill in behind you, now I've got some new stuff to talk about. Let's see, where to start hmm I really wouldn't like to speculate just how much of the game is already finished, but I would venture that not a lot, there are a lot of other game titles Lucasarts is developing and quite a bit of info on them as well, whereas on FT2 thre is, like I wrote before almost no info at all (where there any interviews or anything written on FT2? ) the "teaser" trailer was only meant for those who visited the E3, which is not just everybody, if it weren't for that guy with a camera, most of us wouldn't even know this little bit we DO know. Who knows, perhaps the game is nearing completion (doubt that) . As for the girl being clumsy, I think you misunderstood it entirely manny_c444, the best way to pi** off a biker is to knock over his bike ( I just gotta write this joke down... A man is eating his sandwich in a bar, as three bikers walk in, one of them grabs the guys sandwich and starts eating it, the man just stands up and walks out of the bar, the biker turns to the bartender and says, Man, that guy was a real ***** he didn't even say a word! Yeah says the bartender, and he's also a lousy driver. Oh why do you say that? Asks the biker, Well, answers the bartender, becouse he just ran over three harleys in the parking lot with his truck.) Well back on the subject, I still think it is best to wait until we get our hands on something solid, before making asumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manny_c444 Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 I watched the trailer again and I'm pretty sure that the girl is just clumsy. Atleast IMO. BTW, I'm not saying the actual game is done Im saying that the planning stages are most likely done and that the characters and locations are probably all fleshed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshi Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 so to clarify, the game is no where near completion (i'd say a year or two, max) but they all have an almost finalized idea of charachters, storyline, locations and graphics. so really, it's all a matter of voice recordsing (which is always done first, then animation happens around it), and progamming the game with it's high quality graphics and such. that woman may not be Mo, (and we hope hot) but then again, if mo is in the game, then wouldn't they put her ni the teaser somewhere, i mean, she would be a main character, and if she isn't (like Jar Jar in SWE1 was one of the main charchters, but in SWE2, he had a very small role) then even still, people would like to know that she is theer and therfore wouldnm't they pyut her ni the trailer? i don't know. but apart from that, i agree with everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Whatsisname Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Originally posted by Neil Joshi so to clarify, ... snipped for space ... then even still, people would like to know that she is theer and therfore wouldnm't they pyut her ni the trailer? i don't know. but apart from that, i agree with everything else. You were clear till either your spell-checker died or someone switched your keyboard map. Can you translate this last part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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