QuietSith Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 I understand that but I enjoy about 98% of the tweaks that JK 2 ++ offers. Do you plan on boosting the forces, saber fighting, and removing assfighting, as does the JK 2 ++ mod? See my concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nodata Posted June 27, 2002 Author Share Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by QuietSith Do you plan on boosting the forces, saber fighting, and removing assfighting, as does the JK 2 ++ mod? See my concern? You're still thinking on a smaller scale. "Assfighting" won't be a problem in the mod, as not every character will be a Jedi, or even have access to force powers. As far as boosting the force powers...YES. That is planned already and we've even done some preliminary testing with Level 4 force powers. Saber Fighting will be tweaked as well, and will probably NOT rely on Movement + Key commands to do a specific attack. It will instead rely upon button combinations and your level of skill. In this way, instead of swinging while running away from your enemy, just to get the attack you want to come out, you will be able to perform EXACTLY whichever swing you want to do, WHEN you want to do it. So yeah...you could say we're going to tweak saber fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythren Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Looks absolutely amazing, if you can pull it off (of which, so far, I have complete faith you will). I'll definatly be watching it...but I have a question: You mentioned that Luke, Vader, ect. would be in scenarios on their proper timeline...who determines the players that get to take on these, obviously, massive roles, and what advantages will they have over others? Or will they be NPCs (AI) and I just missed that somewhere? In any situation, however, this mod looks EXTREMELY promising, I'll definatly play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedantic Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 This mod looks sweeeeeet!!! I like the idea of using an R2 unit for the flag. Great ingenuity! Then, I saw the eyes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nodata Posted June 27, 2002 Author Share Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by mythren Looks absolutely amazing, if you can pull it off (of which, so far, I have complete faith you will). I'll definatly be watching it...but I have a question: You mentioned that Luke, Vader, ect. would be in scenarios on their proper timeline...who determines the players that get to take on these, obviously, massive roles, and what advantages will they have over others? Or will they be NPCs (AI) and I just missed that somewhere? In any situation, however, this mod looks EXTREMELY promising, I'll definatly play. Thanks! Now on to your questions! Luke, Vader etc: Will all be player classes. Jedi to be exact (or Sith). Just the same as you can choose to play a Jedi now, you will be able to choose to play a Jedi within the mod. As of now, there's no limit to the amount of Jedi we are planning on allowing per team (however one may be coded in the future if we find a need for such a limit.) Jedi players though, will start with few force powers and skills (Just like all classes) and will have to play well to and work towards their goals to become a Jedi Master. Sith, on the other hand are a different story. At any given time, there will probably be only 2 Sith players ("Always 2 there are, a master and an apprentice."). For the Darkside, there will be other Sith players, but they will only allowed to obtain a small amount of power before they will have to Challenge the current MASTER or APPRENTICE Sith, to take his/her place. Jedi will be given their own limits...to balance them out with the 2 Sith... How's that sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legameboy Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 cool mod, im glad someone finally made a real stragetic eam mod instead of the reagular ones that go like: o look its a flag lets all leave our base and get it: type a thing, thisll be cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyJohn Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 i am very excited about this mod, so while i cannot provide a lot of time to help (or skills for that matter), I CAN make classes pretty well (i have for DnD and other RPG's) if you give me a layout, stats for the class, etc., i can jazz it up, make it awesome looking, whatever. thats about ALL i can do lol another thing, what about x-wing battles or snow speeders on Hoth - AI or CPU controlled? :jawa awesome idea again :jawa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythren Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by Lord Nodata ("Always 2 there are, a master and an apprentice Thanks, but I always took this to mean that no Sith was a loner, each either had a master they learned from, or an apprentice they taught. I didn't know there could only be two Sith at one time. Then again, I've never read any of the books except a few about Leia and Han Solo's Twins, and that was a long time ago. However, I think my question was misunderstood. You said Jedi and Sith will be playable, but also SPECFIC ones too, like Luke and Vader...I took this to mean that there could be lots of Jedi, but only one Luke, and lots of Sith, but only one Vader... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Cool website you got there, and an even cooler idea. I like the scenario type of game play you talked about. Hope to try it out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuietSith Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 I personally think classes are a bad idea. Just use inv/ammo/weapon stations like in Tribes and people can customize their own classes. That way they can get deployables like forcefields, sentry's, etc, and you can get all your weapons and ammo in one place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boreas Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by Lord Nodata Thanks! Now on to your questions! Luke, Vader etc: Will all be player classes. Jedi to be exact (or Sith). Just the same as you can choose to play a Jedi now, you will be able to choose to play a Jedi within the mod. As of now, there's no limit to the amount of Jedi we are planning on allowing per team (however one may be coded in the future if we find a need for such a limit.) Jedi players though, will start with few force powers and skills (Just like all classes) and will have to play well to and work towards their goals to become a Jedi Master. Sith, on the other hand are a different story. At any given time, there will probably be only 2 Sith players ("Always 2 there are, a master and an apprentice."). For the Darkside, there will be other Sith players, but they will only allowed to obtain a small amount of power before they will have to Challenge the current MASTER or APPRENTICE Sith, to take his/her place. Jedi will be given their own limits...to balance them out with the 2 Sith... How's that sound? Sorry to sound bad, but that WILL NOT WORK. Imagine the rushing to grab the sith spot. Also, RPG elements do not work in first person shooters. It just makes people whore their way to the top skill level, making them practically invincible. I don't see how you are going to balance jedi? You would have to remove all weapons but lightsabers, and remove their bullet-block ability or tone it down a lot (such as halving movement speed when the block button is pressed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nodata Posted June 27, 2002 Author Share Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by Boreas Imagine the rushing to grab the sith spot. Also, RPG elements do not work in first person shooters. It just makes people whore their way to the top skill level, making them practically invincible. I don't see how you are going to balance jedi? You would have to remove all weapons but lightsabers, and remove their bullet-block ability or tone it down a lot (such as halving movement speed when the block button is pressed) Removing all weapons but the lightsabers from the Jedi and Sith is already planned. Jedi and Sith will use nothing but lightsabers in the mod (well force powers too, but that's a given). As far as players "rushing to get the sith spot," perhaps you all misunderstood me. See there will be any number of Sith players at one time, however, only 2 of them will be able to obtain any actual power. In order for a Sith that is not one of those 2 to obtain any amount of power, he must challenge and defeat one of the ones IN power. If he loses, he loses skill points and/or credits. If he wins, he gains skill points and the ability to advance as a Sith. The previous Master, will be dethroned and pushed back to lower level. Such is the price one pays for following the darkside. A quick and easy path to power (simply defeat those above you) but you also MUST defend your title. Jedi will have it a bit easier, though will probably advance slower. Does that make it a little clearer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nodata Posted June 27, 2002 Author Share Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by mythren I took this to mean that there could be lots of Jedi, but only one Luke, and lots of Sith, but only one Vader... THAT is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 You know...Jedi were just people too...not gods. yeah...remove all weapons, and having to actually WORk at blocking....would be like the movies. I never saw Luke running around with a weapon after he got into the Jedi state. Never saw Obi-Wan running around with a repeater, or even a blaster. Jedi were people. Everday people, just that they were FORCE SENSITIVE. That's why they get force powers....they weren't the "unkillables" One blaster sht could kill them if the Jedi didn't work on blocking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Bakker Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Jedi were people. Everday people, just that they were FORCE SENSITIVE. That's why they get force powers....they weren't the "unkillables" One blaster sht could kill them if the Jedi didn't work on blocking it. Ah yes... where does staying-true-to-the-movie end and game-playability begin? The Force will be with you, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Bakker Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by me Ah yes... where does staying-true-to-the-movie end and game-playability begin? [ I mean, in regards to getting shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarek Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Wow. A mod I would actually play. Jedi Teamfortress could be cool. When its released, I'll have to go reinstall jedi knight 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Marrakesh Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 dang, i haven't gotten an email yet... looks REALLY DAMN GOOD:cool: can't wait for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nodata Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Wes Marrakesh dang, i haven't gotten an email yet... looks REALLY DAMN GOOD:cool: can't wait for it! Hey, The email function of the board is not working here...PM me your email addy please, and we'll send one out to you. -nodata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythren Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Lord Nodata THAT is right. Ok then, I'm still confused about the whole Jedi and Jedi Masters type thing. Example: If there was a game, and, say, 4 people chose to play Jedi (Not Sith, Jedi)...and Luke Skywalker was supposed to be in that campaign, what would determine WHICH of those 4 got to play Luke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 I'd like to help out with the mod. Where do you need people right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nodata Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 Originally posted by Beige I'd like to help out with the mod. Where do you need people right now? Send me an email, and tell me what you CAN do for us. nodata@planetavp.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandel Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nodata Posted June 30, 2002 Author Share Posted June 30, 2002 We should have our basic information on classes available on the site by Monday. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandel Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Data you get my e-mail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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