superthrawn Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Hey guys. Today is a sad day. For today, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals says that it's unlawful for me to say the Pledge of Allegiance in school. And I am outraged. I don't know how many of you, unlike me, are affected by the decision, or how many of you agree with it (also unlike me.) But I just thought I might use this as a sounding board, where anyone can post thier views on this topic, because it's something that pertains to everyone. This is the first step towards Socialism people. Wake up and pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taarkin Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 It's only unconstitutional to FORCE you to say it. Which it already should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zargon Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 Where are you from? I do not understand why its suh a big deal.....everyone needs to chill the **** out. This is nothing to be 'outraged' over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander 598 Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 An even bigger thing is the guy who wants to change the currency so it doesn't say God on it. I wonder how much it would cost to rewrite Billions of pieces of paper money... And remake the coins... This is where the US is faulty. It allows far to much freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierce Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 IMO- I think its the biggest crock of ****, there are much more things in the world to be worried about than 2 words in the pledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmdr. Cracken Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 Personally, this is political correctness gone beserk. I never liekd politically correct terms either. Thier just words, get a life..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 Originally posted by Assassin IMO- I think its the biggest crock of ****, there are much more things in the world to be worried about than 2 words in the pledge. Like a very well know philosopher once said: <echo> "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me" </echo> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Beastie Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 Or like an even better known philosopher said: Sticks and stones won't break my bones, so you can imagine how I feel about being called names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 I concur with Assassin. Some people have zero sense of priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR2000Z Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 Originally posted by Commander 598 An even bigger thing is the guy who wants to change the currency so it doesn't say God on it. I wonder how much it would cost to rewrite Billions of pieces of paper money... And remake the coins... This is where the US is faulty. It allows far to much freedom. I won't be surprised if that does happen. Most stupid issue ever. You people in Britain got it made. I may have to move there to escape American stupidity as long as I get exclusive economic import/export rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 This makes me think, we currently have Queen Elizabeth's face in all of our money, someday we're gonna have Prince William's face taking her place after all these years !!! I really don't know if that would look good or not. Or maybe Prince Charles!!! God Forbid! now that would look awful... British money is the best money, I don't know what but there's something in it that makes it feel strong, powerful and superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Beastie Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 You have to wonder exactly who's responsible. . . Edit: Can anybody see the pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 Here are my views. This person should be shot (I'm talking about the judge). You are not forced to say the pledge. Further more it is part of our history, hell the constitution gives reference to God, does that make it unconstitutional. This will be overturned either by the supreme court. I'm not surprised to hear this happened in California one of the most liberal states in the US. I think Gore is somehow responsible for the decsion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkshake Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 Nu-uh, Australian paper money is the best, It's got the British Monarch on, AND it's Plastic, so it doesn't get soggy when wet and it doesn't rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 Nu-uh, British paper money and coins rule all. ...plastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyan Farlander Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 British money sucks. Except for the sixpence - that was the best coin in the history of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR2000Z Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 Back to wooden nickels I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander 598 Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 I don't know why we ever went to paper... I prefer coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Odin Posted June 30, 2002 Share Posted June 30, 2002 except coins weigh much more then paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superthrawn Posted June 30, 2002 Author Share Posted June 30, 2002 Heh, you guys are all wrong. Plastics are best. You just watch. Five years from now, there will be no paper money. It'll be worthless, except in some of those esoteric countries that you put on your pedestals, and bow to, like ancient Romans before the throne of Ceaser. Yes, I'm talking about you British and ::shudders:: Austrailians. Home of Steve Irwin... craziest man alive, who should be dead. You'll become so attached to your paper money that it will begin to take on some sort of significance to you other than that of simple currency. And so, as the rest of the world surpasses you with electronic transactions exclusively, you will continue your pitiful existence coutning out change, and wasting energy carrying wallets. I laugh at you. Oh, and about being outraged by the pledge: I am extremely conservative, as are the vast majority of people in my area of the Midwest. We listen to Rush Limbaugh, cut taxes, and we all voted for President Bush. This action is outrageous, and I can't imagine the U.S. without the pledge. You British people don't know what you're missing out on. And secondly, if it Unconstitutional to have the words, then it is Unconstitutional to take them out. Atheism is a form of religion, and I quite honestly believe that if you people have a problem with the words "Under God," then you can go form your own private schools where you can say whatever you want. Or, even better. Home school your children. We Christians do. But whatever you choose, leave us and the way we raise our children alone. Not all of us can afford to send our kids to private schools. Believe me, if we could, we would. So, we must do with the absolutely atrocious Public Schools, and we have to deal with you. But whatever you do, don't impose your beliefs on us. The country would be better off without you. Liberals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyan Farlander Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Wow ... you weren't kidding about listening to Rush, were you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 The Pledge of Allegience is only words unless you understand and believe the meaning behind them. If you TRULY have that understanding, then you don't need a pledge. If you don't understand or believe it, then endless repetition of it won't make that possible. I've always found it a bit amusing that the average first grader who has the Pledge memorised and can recite it by heart has no idea what it means or the definition (and many times the proper pronunciation) of half the words contained within the Pledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taarkin Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Isn't it a bit redundant to say the pledge every single day? And superthrawn, you need to calm down. No one is limiting your freedoms or anything. Anyone can still say the pledge, even the "under God" part, if they want to. And secondly, if it Unconstitutional to have the words, then it is Unconstitutional to take them out. Zuh? This makes zero sense. It's like saying if it's unconstitutional to enslave people, then it is unconstitutional to set them free. if you people have a problem with the words "Under God," then you can go form your own private schools where you can say whatever you want. We're talking about PUBLIC schools here. If you have a problem with the lack of "under God", either go form your own private school or, here's a novel concept, say it anyway! But whatever you do, don't impose your beliefs on us. How is allowing but NOT foring you to say something imposing beliefs on you? IT's the EXACT OPPISITE of imposing beliefs! While I agree with the decision, the reason it was brought about was thoroughly retarded. Apparently, choosing not to say it makes you some sort of miserable social outcast. Just like we should ban shoes because wearing an uncool brand makes you get beat up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_Kinnison Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 I pledge my alligance, to the queen of frag, and her mighty state of histeria... In 1953, the main reason "In god" was suggested was to make us better them communists (obviously Communists did not have a God ) Eisenhower thought it was a good idea, and had it added. Now, just because you say "Under God" make you religious? nope, but the Agnostic and atheists think it does. If you dont like it, you dont need to say it. unlike some countires you are not forced in the US to swear your alligance to your leader at gunpoint. Unlike how some people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jem Posted July 1, 2002 Share Posted July 1, 2002 Originally posted by Taarkin Zuh? This makes zero sense. It's like saying if it's unconstitutional to enslave people, then it is unconstitutional to set them free. LOL! so true... There was something I always wondered, before this law was on did the "I pedge allegiance" thingy apply to those who weren't American? Like if there was this british or spanish or mexican or whatever kid in an american school would he have to do the pledge? And plastic money isn't good because plastic pollutes. But then again I don't think people would start throwing that kind of plastic everyday and less paper used means less trees cut down so maybe plastic money is, afterall, good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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