Darth Windu Posted September 24, 2002 Author Share Posted September 24, 2002 Exactly sithmaster. The jedi would send out a knight to whomever needed them without favouritism, hence the idea of all jedi being equal. However if you looked at the databank, you would see that the jedi report to the Republic government, kinda like UN peacekeepers. Also, jedi fought as part of the Republic army at the end of ep2. Not the naboo army, not the wookie army, but as part of the republic army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 This begs the question: what about the Rebels? If we're going to follow canon to the point that the Jedi are all out on loan from the Republic then how about following the time line? The Rebels would be sunk since the Jedi would have been purged. The Empire could still be strong because of Dark Jedi, but the Rebels wouldn't work with them... Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Realisticallt speaking, there is NO WAY Vader, even with help from bounty hunters and Dark Jedi, could have eliminated all of them. There must have been a few hundred Jedi on the Rebel's side, given the stats. No matter what the movies or novels say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted September 25, 2002 Author Share Posted September 25, 2002 Assume that the Rebels exist at the same time as the Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 What do u mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Bah, I hate it when the sending has problems and I end up with 2 messages. Anyway, see the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 He's refering to my question about having canon of civilizations but not canon of time. Still and all, if there were so many Jedi on the Rebel's side, then why would Luke be their only hope? Surely a few hundred Jedi would have posed more of a threat than a single half-trained one. For that matter, if the Rebellion is massing such a large attack against the 2nd Death Star then the Jedi would have been prominent don't you think? I supposed they could have been acting as pilots... More likely though, any Jedi that did manage to avoid being purged would be too busy hiding to aid the Rebellion. Or if they were, it would be behind the scenes and not on the battlefield, so they wouldn't be present in Battlegrounds anyway. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Because the Jedi were not in a very good state, and Luke was the highest-ranking and most powerful. Also, Luke would have had a bigger influence, like bieng Vader's son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 Because the Jedi were not in a very good state, and Luke was the highest-ranking and most powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 I can see Luke having the Vader influence, but I'm not sure about the others. Granted he may have the most raw power being Vader's son, but he'd be untrained while most of the others would probably have started their training before he was born and would be far more advanced. Rankwise I'd imagine about the same. If we're talking about Jedi who have been working with the Rebellion for years, some perhaps close to two decades then they'd probably be much higher ranked than a relative newcomer (even if he blew up the Death Star). Maybe in the time of RotJ when Luke's been in the Rebellion for 5 years or so, but what about the earlier movies? (I've no idea what his rank actually is since it doesn't seem to be mention ever in the movies--other than possibly "Jedi Knight"). As for their state of being. Ok, I'll accept that fact that a number of them probably wouldn't be in a very good state, either because of age, or the toils of the war, or whatever. But if they're in the state where they wouldn't be fighting then they'd have no place on the battlefield in Battlegrounds anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 in the rebel campaign in swgb you can see echuu shen jon.... krillith is right, there might be more jedis or even hidden jedis. maybe they were pilots or soldiers and never told anyone that they were jedis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Windu, once again you try to use your Nick News knowledge on the forums. UN peacekeepers are trrops from various countries (usually US or britain) who go to troubled nations as an independent army on the behalf of an independent organization. Jedi are an independent group that, using their own people, send jedi to troubled planets to help one side that they think is being unfairly treated. Big difference. Since the Republic was everywhere and was overbearing on the order, they had access to more jedi more frequently, which is what current bonuses uphold. Everyine had equal shots at being able to request masters or padawans, the republic just gave more of those said requests. And thats only the realistic issues with your idea. Gameplay issues, which have greater weight than realistic ones, state that your idea, like all of your others, would completely tip the game to the republic's side. You are to the republic what joesdomain is to the empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Mace Windu said ''We are keepers of the peace, not soldiers'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwiz2 Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Originally posted by Sithmaster_821 You are to the republic what joesdomain is to the empire. Maybe they are the same person, and Windu/Joe wants 2 overpowered civs so that one of them can be his ally and he can be the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted September 27, 2002 Author Share Posted September 27, 2002 sithmaster - UN peacekeepers come from anywhere around the globe, not necessarily the US and UK. Having said that the modern UN and the Republic are very similar. (ie senate = general assembly, jedi = peacekeepers etc) I would also like to point out that at the start of Episode 1 the little message thing states that the 'Chancellor has secretly dispatched two jedi knights' not the jedi council. Also, at the star wars databank it states that- "As the Galactic Republic throve and grew over the centuries, the Jedi came to serve it as guardians of peace and justice" "It is from the ranks of the Jedi Masters that the High Council is chosen, which is the main interface between the Jedi and the government of the Republic." "In the final era of the Republic, the Jedi Knights operated out of the Judicial Department, under the office of Supreme Chancellor" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabag Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Hey here's another idea for a unique unit. The Mon Cal would have a second unique units besides the amphibious mech idea. The amphibious mech would give them a unique unit on maps where there was no water, but on maps where they could build a shipyard, the Mon Cal should have a stealth cruiser. It would work just like the bongo submarine only it would be a cruiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teabag Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Oh and here's another idea; how bout adding the Twi'Lek as a civ. I dont have any ideas yet about civ specialties or unique units but im sure they would have lots of colorful and bizzare structures like the gungans and would be a nice break from the plain buildings of the rebs, republic, wookies, and imps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sithmaster_821 Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Windu, the jedi order goes on no matter who the hell rules the galaxy. The chancellor dispatched the two jedi as a favor not an order. And the UN is so different from the republic, that it makes your confed/nato comparison look smart. I guess some people just think they know everything. And Windu, yes there are other countries in the UN, but the UK and the US do most of the fighting/peacekeeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted September 28, 2002 Author Share Posted September 28, 2002 Well actually the Republic (and then Empire) is based on Rome, but it is rather close to the UN. Anyway did you not read anything that i posted? The offical star wars databank says that the Jedi report to the Republic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbguy1211 Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 What a dink... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 Dark Jedi don't report to Republic. The Jedi report to the Republic but only so long as they believe in it's cause. I mean, when did u see Yoda bieng a trustworthy Imperial citizen. Empire and Republic are basically the same thing. The Wookiees are part of the Republic so they get Jedi. As are Naboo, if not more so. Ganguns, after they joined the Republic, would have had a few Jedi sent to assist them. Rebels get Jedi becuase the Jedi don't believ in the Empire/Rep.'s cuase any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur2 Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 I think they should remove gungans from the game cause they are substand in terms of technology it's dumb to add aircrafts to this race...u know, just to stuff something in to make the game look better i would rather see a game with more diversity between races than to see ten billion races with basically the same units I don't think they even need the idea of unique units they can just make the races different from each other... for example the imperial fighters only stay with the mother ships (star destroyer, airbase or death star?) so..maybe they can limit the flight time for imperial fighters...that way Rebels can have REAL advantage in the air cauz the empire needs to move the star destroyers around before they can launch air strikes..... they should do something that corresponds to the movie don't make all the race the same.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_dog no.3 Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 In AotC if u look closely u will see the Gangun's air (also look up aitha or something like that in the Official SW Databank ) If the limit the flight time for Imp fighters then: a) Severe unbalance ( as in worse for them) on the Imp's side. b) Too much micromanagement It's also very hard for newbs to play a game were every race is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Besides, the TIE fighters on GB are flying on a relatively small area anyway. The short-range fighter mentioned in the quote still had quite a sizable range when you consider how far away from the Death Star it was when the Falcon came across it. They may not be designed for interplanetary travel, but they can certain fly around a planet without problems. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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