Xabien Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Hoby. why dont you like me? Cos I have an opinion? i didnt say you would be bad if they take /kill away but it did get you to admit that you dont need /kill to be....1337. Also you dont need to be in a high up clan to play against good players. Just calm down. You play however you want to play and I'll play however I want to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeTRiTiC-iQ Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Incidently i'll be releasing Bespin Tower SE soon, it has a few bug fixes that I missed in the original. These exploits aren't limited to the Quake engines, I don't actually have any Quake game, i'm just aware of the history behind certain gameplay features. On the subject of strafe-running, you people are aware that with Goldeneye on the N64, strafe-running was the only way to unlock some of the cheats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Originally posted by KungFuJM ... Forgotten Outcasts [FO], had started playing in the OGL while the 1.04 patch was in usage. This was a source of optimism for me and my clan. We were hesitant of being able to play in a fair and uncheating atmosphere while scripts "cheats" were being used. ...... One minute into the first map of our match and I was greatly disgusted. I would have wanted it called off right then and there. To us, they were nothing more than arrogant cheaters, yet we were still unsure as to whether or not their behavior should be tolerated. In desperation I tried to record a demo but found myself at a loss because g_synchronousclients was not set to 1. We stuck it through and lost. To which we grossly protest. Just wanted to make a comment on just that above: You need to learn scripts because they are not illegal in those ladders. Go bug some ladder admin to make a ladder that doesnt allow scripts or something. Its funny that you think scripts are CHEATS. Yet you want to demo record? Why don't you check out our site we have some "evil" scripts posted there. http://www.bfcarnage.com/ just click gallery and then jk2files. Look for "DEMO.CFG". This script was written by some quake player. But works with JK2. Put this file in your gamedata/base folder and type "exec demo.cfg" in console. then hit F12 to start demo recording and F12 to stop demo recording. You can do it up to 40 times per session! Of course you can do it by manully turning that g_sync on and recording then turning it off.. of course then you will lag if you dont. Anyways.. its very complicated doing the recording thing without scripts!!!!!! So, IMOH, it is extremelly hipocritical to in one breath say the other team was cheating because you think scripts are cheats yet you go to console mode to type in demo recording commands? Where do you NOOBs draw the line here? I think that a script is anything that is typed into the command console. That is what it is there for. Don't you guys? Or is it "bind" is a script and not "record"? This is sooo noobish.. Ugggg! BTW I call you all NOOBs because you post a flame against our clansmen. And anyone who agreed with that NOOB who posted is a NOOB. So now most all of you are all NOOBs .. so get used to it. Getting the ability to demo took our clan sometime to track down because we didnt know the q3a engine but here is the stuff: First type: "\g_synchronousclients 1" This causes you to LAG bad!.. I initially thought like this JO guy did and put in the server.. but that cause EVERYONE to LAG. This command sucks!!!!! But is required to start recording. "\record demoname" This creates a file called demoname._d15 or something like that in the demos folder. If the file already exists then you just wrote over it so try to keep your demo names unique! "\g_synchronousclients 0" This is the most important step here.. This turns the LAG off! Otherwise you will hate yourself !!! Once you are done and you want to stop recording type: "\stoprecord" Thats it.. you can demo on any server this way.. even if you type recordemo and it says that g_sync needs to be 1. Enjoy, NOOBs. Also it was really NOOBish of this JO clan to immediately think CHEAT instead of... Damn, what are we doing wrong? How can we improve?. What did they do that was kicking our butts?. Thats what we did when our a$$es where handed to us when we first started learning this techniques. BF_Hoby kills self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by Xabien ... You play however you want to play and I'll play however I want to play Damn.. Didnt you know that's all WE WANT TO?? Read the frig'n post.. NOOBS dont like the way WE Play.. I don't care at all how you play.. or how he plays.. I just think that if I get owned that I should learn what that guy did. I dont get whinny about it. LOL Thats why I am here.. because this frig'n community is nothing but a bunch of noob complainer whinners.. WAAAAAAAAAA this WAAAAA that... BF_Hoby kills self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by DeTRiTiC-iQ Incidently i'll be releasing Bespin Tower SE soon, it has a few bug fixes that I missed in the original. Yeah.. I was shocked when I first found out about that map exploit. The BF Clan didn't want to use that exploit at all for flag hid'n but rather for flag retrevial if it was used against us. Now that is a "real" cheat IMHO. clan HEL used one map exploit that later got banned on the first map.. they where rumored to have had a secret spot on BT to hid if they took the lead on that map.. But we took the first cap and it kept rolling after that.. Just looked the score was 15 to 1.. how did we even let them cap? (hehehe) Anyways..we are lucky they didnt get the first cap or we would have lost that match not know'n where that map exploit was at the time. Did you not notice that and it slipped by or was that hidd'n for us? I did like it when I was in there looking around was like a base insde your base Was soo fun.. but for competition that is too exploitable. yeah your right everygame has exploits.. (things the programmer never intented).. Some are fun and make the game more enjoyable.. (at least for most) but in ladders all this should be decided by ladder admins and such. This is what happend on TWL regarding serveral map exploits for almost every CTF map. I think this reply will confuse many of the NOOBs on this forum so we should NOT get into map exploits in too much depth here.. doh my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by KungFuJM Forgotten Outcasts [FO], had started playing in the OGL ... The force powers that were being abused most of all were rage and speed, but not always at the same time. OMG LOL.. what a noob. He thinks rage and speed together is a cheat? Ok.. noob.. speed makes you go faster... ready for another one? Rage increases your force speed's speed so you can go faster than light force speed. Cool huh? Unbeatable? LOL have you ever tried PULL on a guy who is speed+rage? LOL, what a NOOB! Regaring other complaints about the side affect of suicide: Your in the your base so suicide is good d tactic.. But you explain it like you have to use it all the time.. its not like that.. You have to know when to use it. Over using it doesnt help you at all. Regarding not getting to flag because of this d tactic: If you have problems getting the flag with a defense like this then your just plain sucky at the game. Sorry.. but its possible to get the flag you know even if the other team is using this technique. Originally posted by KungFuJM ..... I also outright accuse them of changing their force powers as easily as having it bound to a key. .... ~KFJ LOL.. Thats probably because I posted the script to do it... Ok.. luckily I still had a link to this thread so I could post it here: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69857 I couldnt find it in the forums because they only go back to 7/28. But the link still works. You should use it.. In CTF you may want to switch force powers but suicid'n takes you back to your base.. its only saving you time. Again.. where do you draw this line of scripts are cheats when you know you have used console commands. Space Balls: "I'm surrounded by ------- NOOBS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by Deetox187 I saw a lot of peeps do that in 1.02 after you clubbed them off a cliff to fall to their doom. But since you can't hit homeruns like that in 1.04 i haven't seen much of the kill key syndrome, only the idiots who do it in team games to screw up the scores. Thats exactly why we do it pal.. The number one reason.. Yep yep .. I only do it so that your score is all screwed up. LOL.. Frig'n NOOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by [JA] Silver ...The truth is it's a way for the person suiciding to feel better about himself when nobody can see that he's been killed by a player. ... And your right those BF boys are some of the most depressed guys I know of because damn they sure kill themselves alot. JA your just upset you get owned on our server. LOL And wait.. maybe your right.. its not because of the scores that you NOOBs don't get.. its really because we dont want to look like we are getting killed by the likes of you. LOL.. OMG.. Thanks superman for showing me this thread.. this has made up for all the depression I have had over killing myself.. Speaking of that.. JA.Silver = NOOB JA.Silver banner = die NOOB die... Hmm.. Is he talking about commiting suicide here because he knows he's a NOOB! BF_Hoby kills self. (Damn that felt good too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by Rogue74 ... Well seeing that I've been playing since the game came out, I'm not a n00b .... I beg to differ.. Just because you been here since it was release.. (And all of BF was because we really wanted to see this game). That does not qualify you as even being good. In this thread you are most definetly a NOOB. End of story.. Reason? I will say it again. You have to adapt.. If you dont then all you noobs can do is complain. BF_Hoby kills self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod 80% of players do this...it's very dishonorable. Right on bro! so that makes about 20% of the players NOOBs. DeTRiTiC-iQ, it was funny.. found out today they are calling your map the "NOOB Filter".. as a bunch of peeps drop when the map changes. Just thought that was funny.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by COJ just return from a game, this guy was -16 in a FFA.......pretty sad if u ask me..... Yeah that is sad.. because we are talking aobut CTF servers here not FFA.. (Even though the poster failed to mention this). Yeah.. commiting suicide on a FFA map is .. ummm.. Noobish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by Kurgan Correct me if I'm wrong, but I swore that was precisely the bug that was listed as "fixed" in the latest 1.04 patch. You have all day to post over 6000 posts on these forums and you don't spend any time read'n the patch readme's? Hmmm... Ok.. whatever.. what fix are you talking about anyways? If you read the readme you would know they changed sabar damage, nurfed yaw movement on the backstabs and a few other things but nothing about removing kill command if that is what you where thinking. .. Are you a noob too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by SS_Sniper I was playing in the Bf server to everyone who belongs to the clan says it makes them spawn faster. When ever they ran for the flag and u gripped them they killed themselfs. LOL.. first you dont kill yourself when you first get gripped you fight a little.. If someone TE'd me then I have enough force to pull you and you cant grip after that or if i'm out and your going to push me over ledge.. then yes.. suicide.. LOL Give's me the edge. I take every advantage I can get. BF_Hoby kills self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by Luna the Great Well its killed practically every duel server left. A shame. OMG... is this guy for real? Or should I say hes just a noob. Noob, we are not talking about duel server here. If peeps are suicide'n in duel server then laugh at those dumn *ucks. Thanks, BF_Hoby kills self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod I say we all e-mail Raven and ask them to release one more patch and fix this. LOL.. why don't you send them a link to this thread.. I'd like them to read it and they will see that noobs are doing complain'n leet are own'n and if they do what you say then most of leet will leave.. the rest will still own noobs. And guess what.. you guys will still find something to complain about.. why? Because you guys are not even trying to adapt. BF_Hoby kills self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 One of my member wants me to explain to you NOOBs how to watch a demo.. I guess he thinks you guys might actually dl some leet demos and learn things but I seriously doubt it.. Complaining is much more easier. But here it is.. first find some good demos you will find some at our site http://www.bfcarnage.com or if you want the really leet stuff here is a link for you http://www.cached.net/?go=%2A/demo/archive///0/50/game/Jedi%20Knight%20II Look for any demos made by DSBr.. Yes these guys sucked with smack talk and all, but they have the best strats around and their defense is next to impossible to cap against. You should download these and try to learn how do do these things. If you don't again, you will always be noob and get owned. 2nd thing is to put the demos in your demos folder.. this is located in "\gamedata\base\demos" folder.. if you dont have that folder create it and put demos there. Make sure that when you unzip that you didnt unzip the path in zip files as it might put the file in a subdirectory in the demos folder.. make sure the actual demo files are in the folder and not other directories.. Anyways.. with that in place the 3rd thing to do is load jk2 up and click demo and it will list all the demos (built in ones and the ones you uploaded). Just double click the demo and it starts playing it. I have had no problem playing demos recorded with earlier patches so you should be good to go. Have fun watch'n the demos of real jedil. L8r, BF_Hoby kills self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by Luc Solar How on earth do you think something as pathetic as "/kill" is okay, just because someone else is doing it? What kind of logic is that? Its called adapating.. Have you ever played CHESS? If you haven't then you may never get the suicide thing.. Its a strat.. We BF like CTF because of the strats involved. Its not FFA or Duel at all! Its much more.. So what do you do when you play someone who kicks your a$$ in chess? .. YOu play them more! because otherwise how the hell you going to get any better? Why not just play your kid brother or sister that way you know you will win, but will you get better? Originally posted by Luc Solar And what about this obviously "l337" guy: I am flattered that you think I'm leet. Originally posted by Luc Solar "All of you who posted that suicide is worthless in CTF are a bunch of noobs who do not know anything and are just cry'n (yeah cry me a river waaa) that they dont get their points.." **** So we're all "n00bs" who whine 'cause we lose? Great attitude, try that out in real life some time. You'll be surprised, I promise. Oh yeah, and you missed the whole point. What the point? that you dont get your individual scores? LOL my point is that your team wins when you have more flag caps.. Not individual kills.. So what point are you making here? Originally posted by Luc Solar "Check out http://www.teamwarfare.com and post this NOOB thread there in the JK2 forum and see how badly you will get flammed because you will see all the leet clans..." **** Here we go again.. "n00b" this "l337" that. Funny. We should get a few of those awesome Quakers here too. The jargon always makes me laugh. Still can't believe some people use it for real.. how wonderfully pathetic. No its used on forums like this that talk about peeps that are good.. and peeps who are not. It's a term.. if you don't like it then you can kiss my butt because these terms aren't leave the gaming community any time soon. so me usin'n them and you flam'n me for use'n them does nothing but make me laugh.. Originally posted by Luc Solar "...use this technique in CTF because its a great thing" **** Tapping your insta-kill-button every time you run into difficulties is a great thing? A great thing?? Again; funny. Yes it is.. if use right. Its not as simple as tapping it all the time. I even have the thing way over on the other side of the keyboard to prevent myself from accidently tapp'n it. But again you guys just are noobs and don't get it. Originally posted by Luc Solar "and none of us think anything about it. THE ONLY ONES THAT COMPLAIN ARE DUAL/FFA NOOBS who don't "get" what CTF means. Individual one-on-one battle are worth ZIPPO to the team." **** Great, here we have the "NOOB"-argument again. Everyone who doesn't agree is labeled "NOOB". Awesome. So could you please explain what individual one-on-one battles have to do with the subject at hand? I thought we were talking about exploiting the /kill-command and thus gaining an advantage in CTF? Yes? I am talking about engaging in a one-on-one battle with someone else on the other team while playing CTF. There are times to do it and times NOT to do it. You guys just dont get it.. you are the noobs that join CTF just to kill and don't know what the CTF means. Geez!! its CAPTURE THE FLAG.. not TEAMFreeForAll, where the object is to kill the other people. If you waste your time playing individual battles in ctf and not working on the main strats that I mentioned before you will not win CTF matches period. Here again for all you noobs.. CTF goals more drawn out for NOOBish peeps to understand: 1) Going into base to get flag. (Dont kill its a waste at this point since other team can suicide and be ready to battle again) .. But if you see easy kill thats always fun.. just keep in mind the goal here. 2) Get the enemy flag. (does not require a kill so far) 3) Running home with flag. (you better start kill'n now) Getting good at running backwards is a nice thing to learn. 4) Escort player back to base. (escorting allows you to kill) Have fun.. learn what weapons fire types not to use (splash damage) as you might get your flag carrier. However TK'n your flag carrier so that you get flag is a technique that could be used. Since suicide returns the flag. 5) Defending flag (kill enemies as they come in.. kill kill) (even if you push them and they suicide they still end up on their side of the map). 6) Return flag (kill flag carrier.. dont worry about other peeps trying to protect the flag carrier.. just concentrate on the flag carrier and as soon as he dies get the flag, then suicide so you can go back and defend your returned flag, or stick around and try to flag grab if your team is in position to cap right away up to you.). 7) And then finally.. CAPTURE THE FLAG. Does not require to kill.. get thier flag to your flag ASAP for the flag capture. If some enemy is there before you cap, then cap first.. or pull them to prevent them from cap'n first but dont worry about the kill as much as cap'n first. There you go.. you noob's get it yet? I doubt it. But that's enough advice to make any good clan get high in a ladder. Originally posted by Luc Solar "As mentioned before.. Its faster respawn.. In the time that you waste falling you can be already respawned and half way to the enemy base or chasing a flag carrier." **** Yes, it has it's benefits. That is kinda like *The Problem* in case you haven't noticed. Well I am glad you see the benefits.. Use them adapt.. Its hard to get owned when you do the own'n. People who don't adapt get left behind. If you don't think it should be part of the game keep complaining.. after all its the ONLY thing you NOOBs are good at. Originally posted by Luc Solar "Remember, again, its CTF.. CAPTURE THE FLAG. The goal in THIS gametype is to get the flag, protect the flag carrier, protect your flag and return your flag if stolen. If your in CTF and your not doing that, then you are not helping your team out AT ALL. " **** Uh..yeah? You still don't get it? LOL You better after I spelled it out for you in this reply. Originally posted by Luc Solar "Any "clan" that does not use this technique is sure NOT to get far on ladders such as TWL and OGL. " **** Yes? This is why people are complaining. Others exploit and win because of that. Hmm.. first off, its not exploit on servers that allow it. Which is what this post is about remember.. complain'n about suicide on clan servers. I said this before.. getting this banned from ladder or getting raven to remove kill command is not going to make you guys win matches. ADAPTING is. Why do I say this? The clans that have adapted will adapt to the new patch and still own.. You noobs will never get it. Originally posted by Luc Solar "Again, You guys can flame us suicider all you want but its not going to change the fact that we will be doing it on CTF because we "GET" it.. and you "DON'T"." **** "Us suicider", LOL! Sorry, dude. The one who doesn't ´get it´ is you. You go around calling EVERYONE "n00bs" and you and your friends "elite" for no apparent reason. You think the right way to play the game is to RUN AROUND THE MAP COMMITTING SUICIDES FOR CHRIST SAKES! Doesn't that seem sort of...odd? Hmmm? LOL. I am so glad it annoys you so much.. but its not about annoying you its about CTF.. and we dont run around the map commiting suicide until it we think its in our best interest to do so. So it does not seem odd that clansmen (not just bf but many others) use this technique to win games. Doesnt seem ODD to me at all. What is odd is the bitch'n that goes on when peeps just don't want to adapt. Instead you guys just need to find the servers that ban the suicide or have a mod that does not allow the client to commit suicide! or again.. convience a ladder to add a ladder for the NOOBs.. call it JK2 CTF NOOB and if you like to commit suicide or use any scripts your not allowed.. That would suit you guys just perfect. Originally posted by Luc Solar Here's a tough question for you: Have you no dignity? No, really, ask yourself that. I have dignity. Why you ask that? You thinking I care about the individual points thing still? Again points for suicide dont matter you can make it -50 points and we still will use it. When the match is over whoever has most flag caps wins. So if your individual score is -5000 it doesn't really matter does it? The winner is the team who got the most flag caps. Again, if you nurf the suicide command it does nothing.. we know how to adapt you dont. Okay, one more: Originally posted by Luc Solar If suicides would not cost any points, do you think that it is okay to commit a suicide every time the opponent is about to win and score a frag? Anything wrong with that? Every FFA would end in a tie because everyone would have 0 points? Cool, huh? OK if suicide didnt cost points and what would I think if if I committed suicide evertime the opponent is about to win and score a frag? You still talking FFA NOOB? I don't care about frags in ctf.. I care about keep'n our flag at home and the enemies flag. I osbolutely dont care if anyone commits suicide in CTF or not. The game is CTF.. Some of you will know how to use some strats better than other.. those that doo will own.. those that don't wont. BF_Hoby kills self. (Edit: do you like how I do quotes? it reads better that way foo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caster Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 I'm just gonna say this: Suicide is the perfect term for this. Why? Because you're giving up and restarting with a clean slate. Suck it up people. Just a flesh wound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Last note before I sign off this thread for a few days to let your flames roll in: LOL. I am so glad it annoys you so much.. but its not about annoying you its about CTF.. I take that back.. If I see any of you NOOBs on my server I and you guys start to complain about it, then yes I will seek you out taunt you and commit suicide right in front of you until you leave the server. Us, real clansmen, are sick and tired of hear'n you bitch on our servers. Your left with 3 choices: 1) Adapt 2) Get off our server 3) Get annoyed. BF_Hoby kills self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Looking at this debate in this thread...I have to say that the people against the /kill command are winning by far. Their reasons totally out-weigh the /kill-er's reasons. Hey, just thought of something. If you /kill-ers say it isn't about score, then why are you trying to fight against a "lose more points per kill" change? Of coarse, they'll say they are worried about the health change...but...then if it's not about score, why do you kill AFKs? Why people who chat? If score isn't the point, you gain nothing from killing them, you only lose a few seconds wasting your time killing them....oh....those few seconds are nothing?...well then you defeat your arugument about killing yourself to save those important 1-3 seconds.... Oops...somebody had better change their argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_Sniper Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 I hate when people call people n00bs, little 12 year old @#%#! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by SS_Sniper I hate when people call people n00bs, little 12 year old @#%#! Only to annoy you.. NOOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS_Sniper Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 heh I played on your server I use /kill. I saw a person from another clan find out your password and ban a admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 How do you use admin on servers if you know the admin pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_Hoby Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Looking at this debate in this thread...I have to say that the people against the /kill command are winning by far. Their reasons totally out-weigh the /kill-er's reasons. Oh really.. even after you see a map designer post that you guys are nutz? LOL.. Did you even read the posts? And again it doesnt matter you ex the command or not.. the point I'm getting at is that you guys are nut'n but complainers and NONE of you are anywhere on any ladders so why are you on the side of the losers? The ones who dont know how to adapt. If and when they kill this command the more leet will still ownz you because your not willing to adapt. The teams that know how to adapt win. Since this communifty forum is more geared for the noobs I have invited some more leet players to post what they think of your comments about what we do on our servers. Loggin into a clan server and complaining about how they play is NOOBish. If you dont think so, then you will never get it. Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Hey, just thought of something. If you /kill-ers say it isn't about score, then why are you trying to fight against a "lose more points per kill" change? WTF u talking about? lose more points per kill change? what the hell does that mean? Was my english not good enough for you noobs? ITS CTF.. individual scores do not count when the game is over guys.. even though they show the scores.. the team that wins is the one with the most flag captures... period. We play for our team to win not our individual scores. But maybe you can convience some ladder admin to do some kind of CTF where captuers dont count and you just total the peeps scores? How about that.. that would be soo cool.. But then again would be CTF? Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Of coarse, they'll say they are worried about the health change...but...then if it's not about score, why do you kill AFKs? Why people who chat? If score isn't the point, you gain nothing from killing them, you only lose a few seconds wasting your time killing them....oh....those few seconds are nothing?...well then you defeat your arugument about killing yourself to save those important 1-3 seconds.... damn you get off this thread.. we are not talking about killing AFK's here.. NOOB we are talking about the suicide command and why CTF clans use it and why NOOBS complain on competition ctf servers. Originally posted by RpTheHotrod Oops...somebody had better change their argument. Are you chang'n yours? Cause you didnt change mine. BF_Hoby kills self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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