blacklabfx Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 Think about this for a minute.. what if Master Sifo Dyas is a long name... or for some reason the Kamodians got the name wrong or something... Look at the spelling Sifo Dyas now take out the FO Si Dyas Look again: SiDyas = Sidious = Palpatine For whatever reason... seems as if Palpy himself was Master Sifo Dyas. Either way.. it's a name that was mentioned before.. otherwise Windu wouldn't have acted surprised to hear the name... Just a theory. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 They'd all heard Sifo Dyas before because he used to be a jedi master on the jedi council. I doubt that if Darth Sideous ordered the clones he would have told them his name was sidious, he would have used a false name..like sifo dyas, i personally think dooku did it, but it could have been sidious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 palpatine is NOT sifo dyas, dyas was a member of the jedi council and they would recognize him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 Absolutely, Sifo-Dyas is not really sidious, no doubt about that. Now if it was Palpatine or Dooku who Pretended to be Sifo-Dyas, that is up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted August 11, 2002 Share Posted August 11, 2002 As I stated before: My theory is that it was Dooku posing as sifo-dyas who ordered the clones to be made under orders from Darth Sidious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 Right because Jango said "I was recruited by a man called Tyranus." So Dooku ordered the clones and posed as Dyas for the Kaminoans. I think thats the best explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duder Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 Weren't the clones ordered well before Dooku left the Jedi order and joined the dark side(I'm sure he left when he learnt of Qui Gonns death, whilst the clones had been ordered years before)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 12, 2002 Share Posted August 12, 2002 The clones were ordered around 10 years before aotc....and QuiGon died around 10 years before aotc. So they happened around the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veryx Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 C'mon guys... Darth Sidious and Palpatine? Palpatine will become the Emperor in Episodes IV and so fourth. I don't know if will see it happen in Ep.III, but Darth Sidious is definitely NOT Palpatine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 ugh....please tell me that you're kidding.....i cannot handle another person who doesn't reallize they are one in the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Veryx: If you have a few days to spare you can read all the old posts. In many of them we discuss and present various facts that state that Palpatine and Sidious are one in the same. My poor hands cannot stand to type any more about this ridiculous theory that they are 2 different people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 Here's a speculative timeline - 11-12 years before AotC: Syfo-Dias killed (murdered?). Syfo-Dias must have died more than 10 years before AotC because 10 years before AotC is TPM and we would have seen Syfo-Dias on the Jedi Council... but instead we have: Oppo Rancisis, Even Piell, Adi Gallia, Yaddle, Yarael Poof, Eeth Koth, Depa Billaba, Plo Koon, Ki-Adi Mundi, Saesee Tiin, Mace Windu and Master Yoda. Also, it is still an open question as to whether Syfo-Dias was actually a member of the Jedi Council or not... Obi-Wan never says one way or the other, nor does Yoda and Mace. Obi-Wan asks them "They claim that a Master Syfo-Dias ordered the clones nearly ten years ago; did the Council ever authorize the creation of a clone army?"... there, Obi-Wan asks if Syfo-Dias was working with the Council's consent, and Yoda and Mace deny that he did. 10 years before AotC (TPM): Qui-Gon Jinn killed by Darth Maul. This is the event that forced Count Dooku over the edge. Already, he had been researching the Sith by means of a Sith Holocron in the Jedi Temple's library (AotC Script), already he was disillusioned with the Republic and corrupt politicians, and was disillusioned with the state of the Jedi Order. Now, here the timeline becomes muddled. By all accounts, Qui-Gon's death was the catalyst that created Darth Tyrannus. However, Darth Sidious, respecting the Rule of Two, couldn't have already have been training Dooku as a Sith Apprentice--but might he have been preparing Dooku in the same way he is preparing Anakin ("You don't need guidance, Anakin... I can see you are already becoming the greatest of all Jedi, even greater than Master Yoda..."). Did Palpatine, knowing of Qui-Gon's death and foreseeing Dooku's emotional termoil, descend on Dooku and sedduce him to the Dark Side? The files in the Jedi records could have only been erased by a Jedi, so Dooku must have been under Palpatine's sway before he left the Order and been aware of Palpatine's plan to create a Clone Army for him to know to erase the Kamino system in particular. What did Palpatine say to Dooku? "My friend, all of your suspicions about the corruption of the Republic are true... I am a Sith Lord and now I am in control... but I hate the Republic as much as you do and I have a plan to destroy it. You can help me and take revenge on the Republic and the Jedi Order for sending your Padawan to his death..." And so, Dooku is brought in on the plan and goes to Kamino to contract the Cloners and seeking out the renowned bounty hunter, Jango Fett. Things seem to move very fast for Dooku once he becomes involved with the Sith. He is disgusted by the Republic, turns to the Sith, finds Jango and orders the clones all in the span of a single year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bodle Posted August 13, 2002 Share Posted August 13, 2002 I think the most popular theory is that it was Dooku that ordered the creation of the Clone Army and that Syfo Dyas was a member of the council and that Dooku posed as him. And Sidious and Palpatine are most certainly one and the same. Veryx wot are u on my little 4 yr old brother worked that one out and he doesn't really know anything bout Star Wars!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uber Sith Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 I think theres gotta be a connection but i think i can also explain the reason why Mace and Yoda felt it was so familiar.. I think Obi-Wan dosent really know who he is but was told he died about the same time as Episode 1.... I think its Darth Sidious's like codename to be used in the republic... Mace and Yoda know the name by the connection to sideous but keep it from everyone else to not stur up anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pad Posted August 24, 2002 Share Posted August 24, 2002 Originally posted by MotionMan As I stated before: My theory is that it was Dooku posing as sifo-dyas who ordered the clones to be made under orders from Darth Sidious. my thoughts also, and i think it was also dooku who erased the archives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_MalaKdoggk Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 palpatine is NOT sifo dyas, dyas was a member of the jedi council and they would recognize him right, It isn't palpy, Qui-gon, or dookoo. Yoda and Mace would recognize him instantly. I also don't think is was Maul as Qui-gon would've recognized him. So that leaves the 'mysterious' dead jedi who knew of Sidiuos' plans and erased the archives to protect the clones that would eventually be needed.. Hmmmm. Yea baby...dead horse alert !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Jeez, did you need to bump a thread from 2002? It has been explained in several sources who he was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_MalaKdoggk Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 sorry, posted before reading the date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coza1000000 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Think about this for a minute.. what if Master Sifo Dyas is a long name... or for some reason the Kamodians got the name wrong or something... Look at the spelling Sifo Dyas now take out the FO Si Dyas Look again: SiDyas = Sidious = Palpatine For whatever reason... seems as if Palpy himself was Master Sifo Dyas. Either way.. it's a name that was mentioned before.. otherwise Windu wouldn't have acted surprised to hear the name... Just a theory. Any thoughts? But isn't Sifo Dyas a kaminoian? And Palpatine isn't a Kamionian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revan_221 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 in the bount hunter videogame which is i think 10 years before aotc dooku is palptines apperantice and they already have a plan for making a clone army but they need a host wich is jango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pho3nix Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Wookieepedia to the rescue! http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sifo-Dyas Thread over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDoe 2.0 Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I read that comics that Sifo was featured on, (he kinda looks like Revan), never remembered until now, thanks Pho3nix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obss Damell Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sifo-Dyas go read it . it explains all. (wow. onw of grievous sabers is his! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter16 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 nahh, Sidious wasnt even known to exist, and a Jedi master that kenobi and windu knew about had already died. good thought tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSeverus Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 Read Labyrinth of Evil, the prequel novel to ROTS, in there Dooku remembers murdering Sifo-Dyas after he ordered the clone army, who was his close friend, as his last act of embracing the dark side and joining the Sith. Yoda mentions this likelyhood to Obi-Wan as well. Since this novel was overseen by Lucas it's likely we can take it as fairly stated that Sifo-Dyas was a Jedi Master who ordered the clone army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.