00M-187 Posted September 23, 2002 Share Posted September 23, 2002 He owns Obi Wan and Anakin, then goes a round with Yoda without a scratch... The Darkside truly is more powerful. It would have been cool for Yoda to take one of his limbs or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivy Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 he is a jedi master who dabbled in the dark-side, of course he kicks ass. he has the strength and teachings of both light and dark. plus he fights with a unique fencing style that other jedi are not used to. check out the databank on http://www.starwars.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 He was a jedi master up around the level of Mace Windu. He was a BAD dude. And as sivy said, his saber style is designed for saber to saber combat, while most jedi concentrate on saber use to block blaster bolts. And yoda was just about to whip Dooku's sorry ace when he ran away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentSmith Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus is a Lightsaber Form II practioner, a form no longer used by most of the Jedi since the Sith vs Jedi wars. Jedi now more specialize in Form III or Form IV where parrying blasterhsots is more focused on instaed of taking on an opponent with a lightsaber. Form II, that Dooku masters is designed for lightsaber vs lightsaber combat. Hence he is trained to face lightsaber wieling opponents while most Jedi are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted September 25, 2002 Share Posted September 25, 2002 SivyB, ET Warrior, and AgentSmith are smart people and they know what they are talking about.........listen to them:D . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 If he wouldnt have run away, if part of the fight was'nt cut out, if, if, if. He was a Jedi Master first and now has obviousely mastered the darkside as well. It was also apparent he didnt want to kill Obi-lost or Anikan. Obi-Wan has never been a great saberist and Anakin was still a padawan learner, with an attitude greater than his abilities. He rushed in like amatuer and paid for it by losing an arm. Dooku was toying with him. I think it is obvious why Dooku spanked them like children. As for "running away" from Yoda, he left.... for a reason. Cunning, subterfuge and stealth are Sith ways. If you listened to what he and Sideous discussed at the end of the movie, it was his job to start the clone wars moving forward, which he accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTT[-FcG-] Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Kaan Obi-Wan has never been a great saberist He kicked Darth maul's ass didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaTT[-FcG-] Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Kaan Obi-Wan has never been a great saberist He kicked Darth maul's ass didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pada-Wan Posted September 26, 2002 Share Posted September 26, 2002 Yeah, but he got lucky that maul got careless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3rr0r Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 about dooku, he has a lightsaber designed for offence, while most jedi have ones designed for defence. also, obi-wan was treading extremely close to the dark side during his duel with maul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Kaan As for "running away" from Yoda, he left.... for a reason. And that reason is he reallized Yoda was just about to destroy him. I seriously don't think Yoda was exhibiting all of his skills in that duel. I think he was toying with Dooku the way that Dooku toyed with Obiwan, because when their sabers are locked Yoda says "Fought well you have, my old padawan." Signifying that he was going to end the fight right there. Dooku realized this, and ran away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00M-187 Posted September 27, 2002 Author Share Posted September 27, 2002 Just reading your sig, im sorry friend, that scene is not included in the deleted scense on the DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Originally posted by 00M-187 Just reading your sig, im sorry friend, that scene is not included in the deleted scense on the DVD. Yeah, that really sucks too !! I thought their might be a chance for it to be included.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted September 27, 2002 Share Posted September 27, 2002 Originally posted by 00M-187 Just reading your sig, im sorry friend, that scene is not included in the deleted scense on the DVD. I know, but i still keep it in my sig, in remembrance of how seriously cool that must have been. And there is still a SLIGHT chance that those starwars folk are just trying to trick us....ihope ihope ihope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Kaan Posted September 28, 2002 Share Posted September 28, 2002 Originally posted by MaTT[-FcG-] He kicked Darth maul's ass didn't he? Well let's see. Maul fought Obi and QuiGon for a while and managed just fine 2 on 1. He then toyed with Quigon one on one before killing him. He kicked Obi won's ass and bitch slapped him into an exhaust shaft. Maul's carelessness allowed Obiwan to kill him, who by the way was harnessing his anger, rage and agression, but Obiwan most certainly did not kick his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 ....who was the one that got cut in half????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 Don't change the subject now! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 Hey, it's not all my fault..... This is just taking on it's own life, like every other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Tyranus Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 The Force was so strong in Count Dooku that he rivaled Master Yoda in powers of the Force. During his time as a Jedi Master, Dooku studied the teachings of the Sith Holocron, kept in the Jedi Archives, and there were rumours that he developed Dark Side powers while at the Jedi Temple. Dooku's power showed when he picked up Form II combat, for which he created his own lightsaber design after experimenting with several different handle models. When turned to the Dark Side, Count Dooku replaced the Ilum crystals inside his lightsaber with syntheticly created Sith crystals, making his blade much more powerful. Sith crystals make the energy blade much more intense, putting more power and force behind a simple swing. This makes Count Dooku deadly, and to rush into combat with him is like suicide. The fact that Count Dooku's midi-chlorian count is several hundred underneath Yoda's makes him incredibly strong in the Force. Depending on your affinity with the Force, your powers can reach new levels. Darth Maul, for example, was not massively strong in the Force, and so could only perform moves such as jumps and throws. Count Dooku (and Darth Sidious) are so strong in the Force that they can perform much more powerful moves like lightning. Intense physical training undertook by Sith Lords keeps the Darth's at peak performance, ready for anything. The Jedi Knights don't really take physical tests regularly, concentrating on the Force for peaceful solutions. The Sith, however, are never afraid to fight, and are always ready for combat. Count Dooku is much stronger than Darth Maul ever was, and could probably defeat him in a duel. Power also comes in the form of wealth for Count Dooku. When his father died, Dooku became the master of his family's fortune, and is one of the richest men in the galaxy. Becoming a Sith Lord, Dooku removed his relatives on Seranno, making sure the family fortune would die with him and that no-one could take it from him. This is how Dooku single-handedly funds his Separatist Movement. Anything else you would like to know about the greatest Star Wars character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 As one sided as your messages tend to be Count (and that's ok with me ). I will have to give you some credit........you sure know a lot about Dooku..... Some of it is accurate and some is well........I think you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 soo........EU huh? Sorry, but Sith Crystals that make his saber more powerful? Lightsabers are already able to cut through any substance that is not another lightsaber (Or energy shields in a reactor core apparently) So what would be the purpose of having a more powerful crystal? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Tyranus Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 The Ilum Crystals which Jedi Knights use in their lightsabers (from the planet Ilum) are recognised as the power source for the traditional lightsaber design. However, over the millenia that the Sith Lords were in hiding, the Dark Lords developed their own crystals, based on the chemical formula of the Ilum Crystals, which makes the blade much more stable. Sure, an Ilum powered lightsaber can cut through anyting apart from another blade (or a laser bolt, come to think of it...), but a Sith Crystal delivers more force behind a blow. Some quotes here: "Sith synthetic crystals (inside lightsaber) replace original ones for greater power and force." (Star Wars: Attack of the Clones Visual Dictionary. Count Dooku, page 49, Rapier lightsaber). "The Sith use synthetic lightsaber crystals, which generate a stronger blade when energized by the Dark Side of the Force. The advantage is slim, but gives a Sith Lord the upper hand in combat." (Star Wars: Attack of the Clones Visual Dictionary. Lightsaber Combat, page 63, Foundations). It simply makes the Sith lightsaber more powerful in combat, allowing simple moves to wear down a Jedi Knight's defences. It's like a hammer: you hit the nail lightly, it goes in only a slight amount. You hit the nail harder, it goes in all the way. The Sith Crystals simply do the work for you, making a slight difference to the force of an attack. Count Dooku isn't exactly the galaxy's strongest man, is he? Yet he can still defeat two Jedi and hold is own against the greatest Jedi in the galaxy. This is (partly) down to his special lightsaber crystals, and partly down the the fact that HE RULES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediNyt Posted September 29, 2002 Share Posted September 29, 2002 He didnt fight Ani and Obi at once. He may not have won against both. He didnt have a double blade and Ani and Obi are kickass Knights. Ani held up well against Dooku for a while. Yoda would have whooped Dooku if he hadnt run away. Dooku is about equal to Windu I bet. Sidious would be the closest to Yodas equal from the Dark side. Yoda would still beat anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratmjedi Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 Actually Mace would kick Dooku's ass! Mace used a Diffrent type of form than any other Jedi or Sith. It was a more aggresive type and was very close to tapping to the Dark Side. That was why no one had used it before. So Mace and Dooku would be about equal. Mace was also not tapping the Dark Side. He was also younger and as strong as Dooku so Mace would kick his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taos Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 Yeah!!!!! GO, RATMJEDI GO!!!!!!!! Mace would waste Dooku!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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