Spinalcraft Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 [rant] Most servers I join, usually have force lightning off (meaning, you cant put points to it, so u cant use it) or even if it's on, there's always a lamer calling me a newbie if I use it what the heck? I'm a big fan of force lightning, I always use it either if im real lazy or I cant take the risks of being pushed while using grip.. or just to plainly annoy someone. Plus force lightning tends to be VERY useful at CTF or Team FFA games.. First of all, Lightning isnt newbish at all, well for me at least, it just depends on how you use it. If you hate it or get killed by it, tough luck, find new ways to adapt to it.. try absorb, works well.. for darkside, go with drain.. there's no need to completely make it un-usuable.. thats just going too far. and why do most people call it newbish? how did it earn it's title? however way it got the title, It doesnt deserve it. If you call it newbish or if u get killed by it, then YOU are the newb. It doesnt make sense to get killed by someone and calling them a newb. However, if you kill someone by force lightning, and call them a newb, then it makes sense.. although it wouldnt be very pleasant.. [/rant] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 Whiners and sore losers hate anything that makes them lose. Real gamers and smart players ask themselves: "Why am I losing?" take a good hard look at their own play style and the tactics of their opponents, and change/adapt to counter those tactics that their enemies are using (rather than whining or trying to get the player that's beating them kicked). Simple. Anybody who calls you a "n00b" or "cheater" because you beat them, deserves to lose. If you used the same move over and over, rather than say it's a "bug" in the game (in which case it's Raven's job to fix it, not you) then maybe its their own fault, since obviously they aren't capable of learning how to beat one move. If they are role playing players, let them join a role playing server that has rules they like, rather than trying to force everyone to play the way they want to play. If they joined a full force server, it's their own fault and they need to use counter-measures in their own force setup. Did Palpatine stop shooting lighting at Luke because it was somehow an "unfair" or "lame" move? Did Count Dooku avoid using lightning on Obi-Wan or Anakin because it was considered "cheap"? I don't think so. Real Jedi/Sith could handle it! Ignore the whiners, if you're in a tourney where that move was banned, I can understand not using it to appease them, otherwise, kill them repeatedly until they leave, or find a server where the admin is more tolerant of people who actually learned how to play the game. Lightning is pathetically easy to beat, incidentally. Absorb totally counters it, and you have to get close in order to use it, plus you need lots of mana (drain comes to mind). Rage will counter it excellently (kill them before they kill you) or keep them at a distance and use distance attacks (ie: saber throw, or guns). Point them to this site for tips: http://strategy.jediknightii.net Maybe it would be helpful to bind a key to a chat string that tells them to visit that site and memorize it. ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Plo_Koon Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 Force lightning ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acdcfanbill Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 I dont use it, since I play as a light jedi, but I love it, it gives me force power I think it defently has a place in JK2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhiteRaider Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 Winers never wine and winers never win. I get tried of some people. There was a big jerk that was on a server. He started insulting blue for loseing, but when blue was in the lead guess what he did. He changed teams to blue when just the round before he was saying we were dumb(Though that isn't what he said. If I told you this thread would be closed). I am glad Friendly fire was on. Can tell you how many times I kicked him off the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 Originally posted by Lord_Plo_Koon Force lightning ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!! Yeh... I like it.. however, I don't use the force often, just saber and guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI OUTCAST Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 there is nothing wrong with force lightning. it takes down health a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosexual Ewok Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 Two words. Grip Kick. Master it if you play the Dark side. The only other saber/Force based move in the game that is as devastating, is a direct head on DFA hit. I never fear Lightning users because the second they start, I roll in, grab them, 3 twists and 3 kicks later the match is over. Granted I may get zapped for 4 seconds while I am doing it, but the match is over before I get too low on health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt-Liell Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 force lightning is the best force power! all tough jedi's have it (yes even yoda) and usually own people with it! just because other people arent smart enough to move or use protect doesnt mean you're a newb. in fact u could say someone's a newb for every force power and weapon in the game, in its own way so next time someone says that to u just say "Only now, at the end do you understand!" "Now newb Jedi, YOU WILL DIE!" :lightning:lightning:lightning:lightning:ball: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Plo_Koon Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 I use forcemod so I can use dark and light force powers. That is the way it should be!!! ForceMod ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt-Liell Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 where can ya get that????????????????????????? that is awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psionic Jedi Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 The Dark side would lose alot of it's usefulness without Lightning... Grip is funny but easily counterable, Drain is a mostly defensive power, what else is there to go all-out offensive like a Dark sider? Lightning of course! Sure it's as easily absorbed as any other force power, but it deals damage instantly rather than forcing you to attack after gripping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Plo_Koon Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 If you just asked me were to get forcemod you can get it at http://www.jk2files.com . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwana Dik Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Lightning is so zilch...everytime I see those worthless flickers of electricity, whaBAM absorb takes care of that, and while Electric Ladyland is draining his force, I am gaining, and am about to kick him in the head. Lightning is the easiest thing to defend against in the game, except maybe Blue N00b Tornado Dueling Style Keep on using your lightning, so I can keep owning you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Histys-History Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Lightning well, is a rubbish move, people run around in circles like a madman in FFA and get like 14 kills by it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griff38 Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 Bring it on darkies, when my force power runs low I like getting zapped. Remember what Obi says when Dooku zaps him in episode II? " I DON'T THINK SO." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinalcraft Posted October 18, 2002 Author Share Posted October 18, 2002 Originally posted by Bwana Dik Lightning is so zilch...everytime I see those worthless flickers of electricity, whaBAM absorb takes care of that, and while Electric Ladyland is draining his force, I am gaining, and am about to kick him in the head. Lightning is the easiest thing to defend against in the game, except maybe Blue N00b Tornado Dueling Style Keep on using your lightning, so I can keep owning you... Most of the people you encountered that used lightning are probably newbs, when u are up against a good lightning user, he wouldnt use it when u can absorb or drain, and there are a lot of other lightning tactics as well.. not gonna bother listing them And lightning is not only used for 1 on 1 battles, I find it useless for 1 on 1, works better if the opponent is.. distracted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckcsaber Posted October 18, 2002 Share Posted October 18, 2002 I love force lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caster Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Don't you think you just answered your own question? You said it yourself: It's annoying, lazy and a low-risk move. That's why most people complain about it, especially when spammed. Absorb does a good trick of nullifying it though, if a person's lucky enough to have enough force power to activate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathain Valtiel Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 Thing is, it DOES come out so fast that if the attacker taps the button and Absorb is not up with the defender, the defender will get hit by the initial tap, I think guaranteed, THEN Absorb goes up. Same with Drain. And if they keep Asorb up, EVENTUALLY they will run out of Force and be screwed, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDI OUTCAST Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 lightning is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sp€ct3r Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 My fourth button mouse has Force pull written on it... My third has absorb... Don't mess with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breton Posted October 19, 2002 Share Posted October 19, 2002 I really don't like Ligthning, you don't have to be noob to use it, but then again, it takes very little skill to use it, and therefore newbies can get many undeserved kills by it. As a player, I have no problem with Lightning, because I use absorb a really lot. But the problem is all the people who isn't smart enough to use absorb, and therefore dies quickly by lightning, and by that reason the lightning user get a lot of kills too easily. They may kill only noobs, but there are a lot of noobs out there, trust me, who easily falls to lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinalcraft Posted October 20, 2002 Author Share Posted October 20, 2002 Yea what Qui Gon said is probably the primary use of force lightning.. picture this There's one elite and about 4 newbies engaging in battle, you know that if you just jump in, you'll get fried by newbie fury (hey, sometimes quantity rules over quality), but if you fry them newbies with lightning, you'll only need the elite to deal with. Trust me, you'll end up in those kind of situations.. Annoying Lazy and Low risk move? are you kidding me? sure its lazy (who cares if its lazy anyway?), and annoying to some (mostly to newbies that dont use absorb), but Low risk, I wish. Notice that when you lightning, you cant block, if they somehow slash you with either a blue dfa or a red slash you'll receive more damage than deal. If your lightning victim has dark rage, its over for you. Plus, absorb is a real pain to lightning users, its like trying to shoot a guy thats taunting you, except he has a forcefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Warrior Posted October 20, 2002 Share Posted October 20, 2002 I never ever play with force so who cares if its in the game its in the game nuff said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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