Toonces Posted November 12, 2002 Author Share Posted November 12, 2002 Updates all around Still tweaking. Any crits would be most helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoi9187 Posted November 12, 2002 Share Posted November 12, 2002 Nice, on the fist pic, his mole is a bit more to his eye, than to his cheek, also, if you look at the pics, he doesnt have an upper eyelid (at elast it doenst show), it is like, some fat from his eyebrow connects to his eye, otehr than those 2 it looks really good. Also, try to ive more definition on the line between his eyebrows as in the pics. Its hard to describe but see how it kinda rounds off at a difinite corner on his eyebrows? there is like an upside down T, im sure you know what i mean. Nice job altogether On the bottom pic, his nose bridge is too narrow, maybe fatten it up and round out the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arco Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 update. this is pretty much final now. a few more tweeks on the mesh toonces is doing and also a few more texture tweeks from me. yay! Arco:deathii: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 both look very nice. for arco: the eyes are very, very blue. maybe a darker shade would look better? besides that, maybe some stubble and a bit more yellow in his face would give him the complete look... for marz: the face is basically dead on. only thing i'd say is to make the hair look better, it doesn't look right at the moment. besides that, i think the eyebrows are too square and should be rounder. looks great guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3rr0r Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 the shading in the eyes gives the impression that he's looking downward instead of straight ahead... maybe if the shadow on the eyes was at the top it would change that... and like mariners said, the eyes could be darkened slightly. also, perhaps you could adjust his brow so it looks a little more frown-like. looks good, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonces Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 We came to the conclusion that his head was still a little TOO wide so I did a tiny bit of srinking. I think the geometry is just about right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMarz1 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Originally posted by mariners2001 both look very nice. for marz: the face is basically dead on. only thing i'd say is to make the hair look better, it doesn't look right at the moment. besides that, i think the eyebrows are too square and should be rounder. looks great guys! I agree with you; However, I am finding it difficult to mess with the hair, and here is why... I have found that during game play, detailed hair tends to have a grainy salt and pepper appearance. I wanted Obi's spikey hair to show (because thats a predominating feature for the character). Since the model has a smooth surface for the hair (helmet like), it is very difficult to get that across. I know that it looks unfinished when viewed at great detail, but I'm between a rock and a hard place. Should I keep it as it is, so that it looks good in game, or detail the hell out of it, and have it come out as a "slicked back hair du". Really, this is a question that I pose to you... what do you all think I should do? Mars out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padawan_7 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Originally posted by NeoMarz1 Really, this is a question that I pose to you... what do you all think I should do? I say go for the better in game look. After all, that's what we will really see. Oh, yeah, Marz, one question. Why does your skin have Obi-Wan with pinkish clothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariners2001 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 well, i see your point. it really isn't a huge problem to me the way it is now, but here's a suggestion: the wookiee model took advantage of shaders to make the hair look kind of scruffy and i think that effect (or something like it) would look nice on top of his hair. maybe toonces or someone can make the neccessary adjustments to the hair also...but like i said - it isn't a big deal on the hair. in the battle, it won't make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonces Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 That's a good idea marriner, but doing that at this point is not realilstic. I'd have to completely reconstruct his head and add a whole bunch of extra flat planes to his head. It would take weeks. Mars, do whatever your comfortable with man, I'd go for making it look good in game (Which it does now I think) Whatever you do I don't think it matters since your face is spot on already Padawan_7, I beleive Mars fixed the hues on his clothing since he last sent me textures, so any shots that I took are using the old textures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoMarz1 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Originally posted by Padawan_7 I say go for the better in game look. After all, that's what we will really see. Oh, yeah, Marz, one question. Why does your skin have Obi-Wan with pinkish clothing? I'm glad you asked this question... let me explain. All the screenshots that have been posted are shots from "Model View". Model View does not render light the same as in the game. If I made his Tunic true white, it would actually be so white that it would create a glare... Sooo, what you need to actually need to do is make it a medium grey; However, Obi's Tunic is actually a dirty (slight brown) white. In my earlier screens it was a little on the Peach side. I made this correction, but I may end up taking it to a grey, since no one seems to agree that it's in the hue that I'm using. It really comes down to which scene in the movie your looking at. In the beginning of the film Obi's Tunic is extremely clean (probably cuz he's on a diplomatic mission), Other scenes he looks more dirty. As a artist you know that there is no "True white" you will always see some color, because white is similar to silver. It reflects all the colors in the surounding environment (with white its very subtle). This is how crazy it can get when you study color theory! Too much color theory can be bad, since no one seems to care as much as an artist. Ooooops, I guess I got crazy on the explanation:rolleyes: Mars out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonces Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 Your right of cource, there really isn't a "true white" Besides, as you pointed out, the Q3 engine renders lighter colors like crap. Arco did a extremely light beige on his textures which seems to look quite nice in game. Oh, and a lesson in color theory every once in a while is always good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywalker19 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 wow guys,i really dont know what to say except this really is amazing! this has probably already been asked,but are there going to be multiple lod's? cant wait guys. p.s - toonces,how's the plo koon model coming along,havent heard anything on it for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omeo7 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 The hair texture is nice, but there needs to be some more detail and blending around around the hairline. Both models have "helmet hair" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticSpade Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 "helmet hair" cuz it looks more like a helmet. tru it is, but i think it's good and who's gonna stop in a fight and say your dude has hemet hair. also are their any in-game screens of Obi yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padawan_7 Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Thanks for clearing that up Marz and Toonces. Padawan_7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 Originally posted by MysticSpade who's gonna stop in a fight and say your dude has hemet hair. I might, just because it'd be funny. But then again, it may not look funny in game, so I'll just have to see some in-game shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[JKZ]_Yun Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 nice Arco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Odisse Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 A little off topic but whatever happened to the Episode II Obi-Wan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediLoaf Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 to my knowledge, i believe it was being based on the qui gon model. You can see the post by going on the pimps and previews part of polycount forums.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonces Posted November 13, 2002 Author Share Posted November 13, 2002 I'm not sure exactly Odisse, I know KMan is extremely busy. I'm sure he'll get around to it, if not, I'll finish him up A little update, Arco changed a few things around, and made new boots (very sweet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_NinjaGaiden_ Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 sweet Toonces .... sorry if this has been asked but...... in there going to be a sp version in the download? and a prospect release date? no rush and i dont want you to get annoyed but i cant wait to have obi wan tearing up the reborn and desann hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kururin Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 It's so great having the Image code on now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticSpade Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 if i am correct in my assumption they are REAL near to completion. and someone posted the SP conversion will be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arco Posted November 13, 2002 Share Posted November 13, 2002 aha! ingame shot! nearly there now! Arco:deathii: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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