Young David Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 So there is a credit system now ... I'm not really thrilled by that. Leme explain. First, such a system requires a beter moderation. Creditcrawling (the word I invented for it) should be discouriged. But that's not really a big deal. The big deal is the shop. Let's review the items: Donate credits to another user Okay, not really an item, but it's at the top, right This is actually a good thing, if you have credits you should have this. Trade Credits For The Sticky Feature Evil! We have moderators for that. What we're gonna have is heavyposter with a thread like 'Look how cool I am' making sticky (Wich a moderator should make unsticky btw without giving the credits back). When one wants a sticky one should ask the mods. That's what they are for. Change Custom Title I assume that the 1000+ members keep this feature as it was, otherwise it's evil. Give another user a custom title Evil! Again, we have mods for that. I don't want somebody else having the power to change my title into 'Look I'm an idiot' Add Glow To Username This one is okay. It doesn't involve the regular posting things, just a bit of eye candy. Moderator For A Day For just a bit more credits than 'Give another user a custom title' and 'Trade Credits For The Sticky Feature' combined you can do all the evil things. Moderators are supposed to be selected because they can be trusted with that task, not because they have the money. (This are not politics) Change Username Good thing / bad thing. Good thing because some newbies seem to make it a trend to change their name every week. Bad thing because it makes name change easier for heavyposters. Username is the one thing that users can be indetified by. Avatars/titles/signatures can all be changed already. This way it's harder to recognize people. Add Calendar Event If you want the calander filled with useles things, go ahead. 'My dog Odo was born this day', 'The day I get my new computer', 'Look guys, it's april 31st' ... Undecided about this one. Trade Credits For An Italic Username Eye candy ... it's okay. Trade Credits For A Midi Song For Your Profile Just a bad investment. Midi's are anoying. But it doesn't disturb normal posting ... it's okay. I did not mention the prizes. Because after a while every heavyposter will be able to afford it all and the credits will stack up without being used anymore ... that's the time when people are gonna make sticky's and things. My say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 where did you find this info? cause i have been wondering about the points at the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 I think that this credit system is a good idea, and by the way, people wouldnt do useless rubbish things on the calender because it would just waste their credits. Same with giving another person another title. And the mod-for-a-day option needs to be taken out! That one is eeeevil...... *Stares at mod-for-a-day option* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 I'm not really thrilled about the system myself. I just looked at the "store" and sort of laughed......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Heh I can imagine some stories about this. "I was wanderin around at Lucasforums when suddenly, a robber came out and said, "GIMME ALL YER CREDITZ NOW!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 1) For starters, this is simply a test run to see if our readers enjoy the system. Never hurts to attempt to introduce a little extra fun into things. 2) If you don't like the system, don't pay attention to it. The rewards are quite modest and seeing someone earn a glowing name or italic name, or being allowed to stick their own subject for a bit shouldn't bother people one way or the other. So bottom line... if you don't like it, don't pay attention to it. It's minor enough so that it shouldn't be an issue. The only reward we're likely going to modify is the "change another user's title" ... because I don't want those people who don't really pay attention to it forced to pay attention to it by having their names changed, etc. 3) Lastly.... lighten up and have fun folks.. that's why we're here. We'll keep people updated on how the test run is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky_Baccy Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 It sounds like a very interesting, and potentially very good idea... I agree with YD for the most part, and I think that it will definitely need to be regulated somehow - otherwise we'll have half the threads in the Swamp stickied, and you can't imagine how annoying that could get =/ Overall, though, I do like the idea - especially the "mod for a day" thing, which is priced sensibly, but which might also let Tyrion run riot on the boards, which does give me slight cause for concern... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 well that is what im afraid of.... when spammers reach the 3000 required for mod for a day... and mess up the forums... and the other mods, super mods and admins have to clean up the mess he made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky_Baccy Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Well, you need to have rules of use - and penalties for breaking those rules... Improper use of the mod-for-a-day (or any other item) should lead to a reduction in points, or a suspension of incrementation of points, if that's technically possible... And in severe cases, say if someone deleted/edited valid threads, or did something equivalently bad with another option, then the threat of a ban ought to discourage that... Just some thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 It's got a built in spam guard as well I should add... for example most points stem from people actually "viewing" and "replying" to interesting threads.. and those who posted the interesting thread that receives the attention benefits the most rather than just "posting" a thread. If you get your post deleted for spam, your points get crushed. Again, it's going to take some major tuning.. but that's what the feedback is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young David Posted December 31, 2002 Author Share Posted December 31, 2002 Originally posted by Aristotle 2) If you don't like the system, don't pay attention to it. The rewards are quite modest and seeing someone earn a glowing name or italic name, or being allowed to stick their own subject for a bit shouldn't bother people one way or the other. The glowing or italic name are the 2 things that are totaly okay with me, I said that. Some other things are bad. Sticky's mess up a forum layout. What if 20 members decide to make a sticky in one of the off-topics? That's not how it's supposed to be, that's not the concept of sticky's. Moderator for a day is bad too, you don't give a kid a gun, you don't give a spammer moderation powers. And change another one's title is, as you kind of agreed, is evil too. Those 3 are the worst and ruin the whole credit thing. If they were taking out I'd sound a lot more positive, because there can be done fun things with credits, but not that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 I think some prices should be lowered, like italic writing, 500 just to make it get slanted like this? What is a rip-off basiccly! And could you post some examples of the glow of a name? Theres no point of buying it and it looks rubbish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotle Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 YD .. I totally agree. We need to change the default prizes... and we'll modify them this week with the help of the input from everyone. It can work if it's modified.. I'm pretty confident of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tie Guy Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Lighten up a bit YD, the change another's user title could be fun. Besides, if your over a thousand you can change it right back anyways, right?. I do see how the mod for a day thing could possibly get out of hand. Maybe you should just make it a lot more expensive. Still, i have no idea how long it takes to earn credits so i can't say just yet. Another idea would be to not let them delete posts at all, just modify them. Of course, most would probably add little annoying messages at the bottom of everyone's post or make them look like an idiot, bet hey, if that's their perogative..... One question, though. How long do the things like glow and italics last, forever? Oh, and are there any options with the glow, like colors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacky_Baccy Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Posted by Tie Guy One question, though. How long do the things like glow and italics last, forever? I hope so... Oh, and are there any options with the glow, like colors? From the Store Add Glow To Username With this action you can add an attractive glowing color to your username wich you can define yourself. If you have already a glow then you can change it here aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Originally posted by Tie Guy Lighten up a bit YD, the change another's user title could be fun. Indeed it could, but for the sake of niceness, I say there should be some sort of time limit on that title, before it returns to what the owner previously specified it to be (or the presets). Of course, most would probably add little annoying messages at the bottom of everyone's post or make them look like an idiot If they did that, they'd be head-hunted by every user, mod and administrator with flaming and banning. I wouldn't risk my user-profile for one day's worth of chaos in the forums. Ever. Besides, to do it, you'd have to make a lot of quality posts first (spamming your way to credits would only result in bankrupcy), so the user would probably feel the subsequent banning as hurting just a little bit. One question, though. How long do the things like glow and italics last, forever? Oh, and are there any options with the glow, like colors? It says in the shop that you can specify what color the glow should be, and I think they're forever, until you or mod decides to take 'em off. [editage] Damn you wacky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tie Guy Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Ok, so by "which you can define yourself" is talking about the glow. Because in the current syntax it appears to be talking of the username. A relative clause always follows directly the antecedent to which it is referring. The proper syntax would have been "With this action you can add an attractive glowing color, which you can define yourself, to your username . If you have already a glow then you can change it here aswell." See the difference? If you could just be a little more specific, please. Like, can it be anywhere between 000000 and FFFFFF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Tie, let me put it this way: If you couldn't choose the color yourself, why not state which color it was going to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc's Spirit Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Somehow, in the implimentation of this new point system, my account was made unavailiable to me. And this serves to only aggravate me. So at this moment, just because I'm mad, I say, "down with the point system!" Of course if you fix my account, I think I could be persuaded to view this point system as a positive move for the forums. Here's my delimma: My account was working fine yesterday. However, when I went to login this morning, I was greeted by a blank page... repeatedly. No explination at all. I tried to force logins by hitting reply buttons, edit buttons, View CP, and the regular login method. All had the same effect... a blank page. After the blank page, I was hoping that the cookie was still loaded but unfortunately, it was not. I deleted all my temp files, history and cookies and rebooted my comp. No change. Even now with this account, I am greeted by a blank page when I attempt to edit my profile or forum options. So the problem seems to be on your end. Please help, Admins! My original account, for those who are unawares, was Havoc Stryphe. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tie Guy Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Originally posted by Cjais Tie, let me put it this way: If you couldn't choose the color yourself, why not state which color it was going to be? It might have been that you had to choose from a perset list of colors (ie. Blue, red, green, or yellow). I'm just wondering what kinda options we got with this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Havoc: I can't access my profile or options either But at least I can log in... Tie: Yeah, it's probably going to be some presets - but a little choice is better than no choice at all, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havoc Stryphe Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Okay, looks like by creating that new account, it fixed my previous problem. Either that or the forums just fixed themselves. Either way, My account is fixed. So Admins, just ignore my request. Now you can delete the Havoc's Spirit account, thanks. Oh, and by the way, now that my account is fixed, let me say that the point system is a wonderful idea. I was for it from the beginning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Use the 'rate' button on posts you think are spam, which should cut down on it. Each time you disapprove and submit, the poster goes down a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mex Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Erm matt, I accidently done that to about 5 people... I think that we need like some instructions of the new stuff.. Like an example, for the glowing names and the italic things, we need a example like something next to it showing what it looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 I think it's pretty lame that someoen in EscapeMI's "Clues & Hints" forum, who had made 3 posts, has 50% more points than I. The "mod for a day" feature is one that I heavily disapprove of. What if someone like "Al - Back from the big whoop" or "AcrylicGuitar" start using it? Especially since I'm currently embroiled in a huge row in the Harbor about my moderating (oh, I could do with some back-up on that, by the way). But, we'll jsut have to see how it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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