Wraith 8 Posted January 12, 2003 Share Posted January 12, 2003 well.. i don know... i think NPC's will know what will be fair and what wont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swediot=) Posted January 13, 2003 Share Posted January 13, 2003 well yeh obviously because theyre programmed by the people who made the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMardigan Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Hmmmm.... in most MMORPGs you can buy basic Arrows or make really nice ones yourself (or buy from PCs). So it would make a lot of sense to do the same for charges and propellant. I am truly into the realism of the game! The more real it is the better the game is... So where did you say the crapper was? MadMardigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Aklin Posted January 15, 2003 Author Share Posted January 15, 2003 The problem I have is this, truth to the movies, in my opinion is the very definition of canon. In order to be canon, they would leave out the same things the movie left out. I guess you can assume that these things were done, but never take the tedious effort to do them. Who really wants that crucial life or death moment to come down to the last time you reloaded your blaster cartridge? I guess it's really a moot point, if it's in there, I'll deal. If it's not though, I think I'd be a lot happier. Even if they just had infinite blaster cartridges and I had to refuel my ship. I can deal with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zendjir Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 In OPF reloading your rifle is a very tense moment, and add's to the realism. Infinite ammo would completely screw that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gontheboy Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 So ammo can become a life or death situation. You have to be prepared or face the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zaius Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 yes, I think that you should be able to run out of ammo, and refill ammo cuz it adds to the realism of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 I'd like to take back my comment on the 500 round cartridge, that's false info. I really didn't thikn it thru there. Anyway, if we are going purely by the movies, then there wouldn't be much left of a game. No refueling. No rearming. No Corellian Engineering Corparation. No Kuat Drive Yards. No Rendelii Star Drive. No species name for Greedo. No this, no that....... It's never mentioned in the movies, thus it cannot be implemented. You see where I'm going by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zendjir Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 You see where I'm going by this? Yep, to the expanded universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Aklin Posted January 15, 2003 Author Share Posted January 15, 2003 In all honesty, I never read many of the books, but you tell me, do they describe people taking these actions? Also, canon, by my definition, is the SW universe as defined by GL. GL did give these things names, faces, descriptions. He never explained how to recharge your fuel cells though. He never said how many blaster shots are in a power pack. He did however tell us where blaster gas comes from, what companies made what ships, what weapons. I guess, in all honesty, it is not that important of a discussion. I have my opinions and you have yours, it is apparent that neither will change their opinion for the other and after all........ You already won the damn poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith 8 Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 yes they do recharge in the books. and the canons abouard starships recharge with main bataries.. or generators and the generators on an x-wing are the same. look at a car.. the car batterie always recharges itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted January 15, 2003 Share Posted January 15, 2003 Also, canon, by my definition, is the SW universe as defined by GL. Yes, my definition of canon is also that. Canon sources take precedence over any other official sources (except for a few minor points). If something in a book says one thing, but the movies, or novelizations of the movies, say something else, then what was said in the book is overruled by the movies and/or novelization. And just to state the current canon sources, they are: Movies Scripts Novelizations Radioplays Those are the canon sources, in that order. In all honesty, I never read many of the books, but you tell me, do they describe people taking these actions? I believe the book Star Wars: The Visual Dictionary, which explains about the props that was made for Star Wars OT, contains this information. And seeing it's written by Dr. David West Reynolds, a LucasFilm employee, I would think that this information is correct. This is the same person that wrote Star Wars: The Incredible Cross-Sections series. I trust this guy to his word. The only person I trust above him again are very few, with George Lucas himself on the top of that very short list. Oh, and a small added info: The pack you see on the left side of the E-11 (standard stormtrooper rifle) is a powerpack, and provides the rifle with enough power for 100 rounds. Additional cool info: The E-11 seen in Star Wars are actually real guns. So to anyone who thinks it's a simple prop, that gun can actually kill you. As in dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zendjir Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 As in dead. Dead as in no more I knew that they were made out of real guns, never knew they actually worked. Where do games stand on the canon-line? before or after novelizations? I think when making games, approval from Lucas is needed, just as in SWG. In Jedi-knight there definetly is ammo. Fuel; I dunno howmany fuel containers I blew up in XWA, but there sure were alot. Fuel is big business in the SW universe. That would indicate that refuelling and reaming is a neccesity. On to the next poster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thew Rydur Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 I don't think games aren't a "canon" source. They're juist EU. When Jan was talking about novelizations and such I believe he meant of the moives themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 I knew that they were made out of real guns, never knew they actually worked. Yeah, they worked. The flash you see comming out of the barrels are from blanks. I don't think games aren't a "canon" source. They're juist EU. When Jan was talking about novelizations and such I believe he meant of the moives themselves. Yeah, that's right. The only canon source noveliazations are the novels of the films. All other novels are EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swediot=) Posted January 19, 2003 Share Posted January 19, 2003 Originally posted by Zendjir Dead as in no more I knew that they were made out of real guns, never knew they actually worked. Where do games stand on the canon-line? before or after novelizations? I think when making games, approval from Lucas is needed, just as in SWG. In Jedi-knight there definetly is ammo. Fuel; I dunno howmany fuel containers I blew up in XWA, but there sure were alot. Fuel is big business in the SW universe. That would indicate that refuelling and reaming is a neccesity. On to the next poster... in jk 2 you have to help lando carlissan refuel his ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zendjir Posted January 19, 2003 Share Posted January 19, 2003 Oh yeah, forgot that one great example. But, as far as canon goes....Bespin is a bespinna gas mining facility. The gas is used in blaster cells and antigrav platforms I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thew Rydur Posted January 19, 2003 Share Posted January 19, 2003 Isn't tibiana (sp?) gas used for blasters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Gaarni Posted January 19, 2003 Share Posted January 19, 2003 Bespin is a gas giant which contains, along with other types of gases, Tibanna gas, which are used in most blasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gontheboy Posted January 20, 2003 Share Posted January 20, 2003 Well, I'll need a LOT of that gas then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando Shar Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Greeting's, I'd say yes to rechargeble full cell/weapon's.... but would you be able to trade them? i hope so, more cred's for me! Nando Shar Sativa Mineral and new*Gas* Corporation Rock's Big and small we got'em all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zendjir Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Yeah, I think it is almost certain that you can mine the gas and then trade it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deft Aklin Posted January 23, 2003 Author Share Posted January 23, 2003 I'm hoping the Empire just gives out free blaster packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gontheboy Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 They probably will, but you may be able to keep it only if you stay as a soldier and not change professions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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