Luc Solar Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Originally posted by Aru-Wen Every time I see Bush, it looks like he's struggling to comprehend something, like he really has no idea what's going on. He looks like a kid who's pretending to be president. Whoa! That's exactly how I feel about Bush...exactly! Well put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chastan Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 So what if he's dyslexic? How shallow of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chastan Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 That's what pisses me off-- For people who think they are so enlightened, that they know so much, they can't even get past judging somebody by their appearance! THINK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Didnt he also have a low IQ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Originally posted by ShadowTemplar Case-book imperialism. It's gonna hurt when you hit the dirt. And I'd rather face an angry Carnifex than the turmoil that'll erupt when the rest of the world realises the simple fact that at some point the US will be out-smarted, out-manouvered, and out-developed by Europe, Caucasia, and the Far East... Not everyone knows what a carnifex is,Shadow. (It's a big huge two or three story biological creature that has about 4 10 meter razor-sharp blades) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chastan Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Originally posted by Tyrion Didnt he also have a low IQ? NO! Another case of people falling to chain mail idiocy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Then what IQ did he have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Need I point out Bush's intellegence from one of his speeches... What would the great land of ours be without this country... ...idiot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chastan Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Originally posted by Chastan So what if he's dyslexic? How shallow of you ...idiot... Hey hey now. We all get along, ok? -C' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chastan Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Originally posted by Tyrion Then what IQ did he have? Who knows? http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted March 25, 2003 Share Posted March 25, 2003 Originally posted by Chastan NO! Another case of people falling to chain mail idiocy! Agreed, this has been proven a scam before, and it's just a low blow to keep using it as fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Originally posted by Luc Solar Whoa! That's exactly how I feel about Bush...exactly! Well put Thank you, I do try to be as precise as possible in my descriptions. Originally posted by Chastan Who knows? http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.htm Didn't you just make the case for Bush's low IQ? The lowest of any US president in the last 50 years speaks pretty loudly to me. 90-100 is considered the 'normal' range for intelligence, and at 91, he's barely scraping by, which means he's almost of below average intelligence. My "kid pretending to be president" analogy doesn't seem to be too far off the mark... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinWalker Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Originally posted by CagedCrado Also remember clinton is one of the reasons for all of this. Not even close. If blame for the creation of Saddam had to go somewhere it would be Reagan. It was his administration that supplied Saddam with a multitude of weapons systems and ammunition as well as billions of Dollars of cash. We (Reagan admin.) also provided him with Cray type computers to advance his nuclear program. We (Reagan admin) probably also provided Anthrax spores for bio-weapons development. If the weapons inspectors can get to these and analyze them, the origin of the spores can be determined (if they still exist) based on the virus profile. Oh... wait. The inspectors had to leave the country. Yeah.. Clinton was the man. Makes me wann have a cigar just thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Originally posted by Aru-Wen Didn't you just make the case for Bush's low IQ? Aru-wen, the link leads to a site on urban myths (or in this case, net-myths). Newspapers even published this "discovery" but later learned and admitted it was a hoax. Still, it doesn't really matter what each president's intelligence is on paper. By their actions shall we judge them, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Posted March 26, 2003 Share Posted March 26, 2003 Originally posted by C'jais Aru-wen, the link leads to a site on urban myths (or in this case, net-myths). Newspapers even published this "discovery" but later learned and admitted it was a hoax. Still, it doesn't really matter what each president's intelligence is on paper. By their actions shall we judge them, right? Thanks for the info. But if we judge on their actions, we're still in trouble with Bush II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHobGoblin Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Okay let me count the retards who picked Mr. I pick up prostitutes... You can do better than that, man. Thanks for the tip Aru -C' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Hobgoblin - Your comment about Clinton "only wanting to become President so he could get laid all the time," is WAY off base. The fact that he was very sexually active had nothing to do with the way he ran the country or the reason he ran the country the way he did. If you truly believe that he did it only to get sex, I'd like to see some proof. The rest of your post seemed pretty inappropriate - I would edit some of it before C'jais or another mod sees it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinWalker Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Hobgoblin purports himself to be a "good debater," when in fact he uses a lot of provoking statements and hyperbole in order to insite argument and negative feelings. This is not in the spirit of debate. I would, personally, like to see factual pros and cons to both Presidents. I'm not beyond being persuaded, but I firmly believe that Clinton was the better of the two. The problem that Clinton faced was a very public hatred that was directed toward him by extreme right conservatives. This manifested itself in the Whitewater and Lewinsky scandals, which cost the American taxpayers a significant amount. The Whitewater debacle prooved to be relatively baseless: neither of the Clintons stood to profit from their real estate dealings and no wrong-doing was ever uncovered. In fact, on of the key witnesses ended up doing time for not saying what the prosecution wanted, in spite of it not being the truth. She was basically instructed to lie in order to receive immunity. The Lewinsky scandal's main problem was that Clinton lied about the affair. Nothing more. That certainly wasn't the worst act ever commited in the Whitehouse... (the lie or the BJ). What Clinton did do was provide a stable economy and significant reduction of the national debt. Jobless rate was very low. Conservation and ecological efforts were increasing so as to preserve our national resources. Acknowledgement was given that pollution and emmissions of the country were significant and that a world effort was needed to begin curbing the rate of greenhouse gas emmissions. Bush quickly destroyed many of the conservation and environmental legislations that were put in place, including making the U.S.of A. the only nation to say no to the Kyoto Protocol (which he later retracted his opinion and acknowldeged that greenhouse gases were a significant problem). Bush continues to push for tax cuts in the face of growing national debt and continued need for money in the war on terrorism. He still has some unanswered, or poorly answered, questions about his own involvement in the same kind of inappropriate financial activities that brought down Enron and Worldcom among others. Bush has created a wave of hatred toward the U.S. from other countries by his actions (and some of his inactions) in the Middle East. These hatreds may very well threaten the safety of Americans at home and abroad. I could go on, but I realize that the more I write on either side, the more likely respondents like HobGoblin will return with profanity, baseless comments and hyperbole rather than useful or reasonable debate. It is interesting to note that with those who favor extreme-right conservatism, emotions tend to get the better of them and they make attempts to insite anger rather than debate points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 Well, if CLinton was president right now, he would probably start blowing up Canada thinking they are planning against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C'jais Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 I'm going to close this thread, as people are not feeling like discussing this in a mature manner right now. But I'm very open to PMs concerning the re-opening of this thread (if those PMs are mature enough to be considered, that is). Just tell me why. -C' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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