Katarn07 Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Everyone is saying this guy is some old relic who they should scratch off in the JK series, which is about the guy and you want him gone? You guys are nuts, seriously. The guy has saved the galaxy dozens of times, and you wanna brush him off like that?!?!?! I think he can die at a nice old age with the Vong gone with his wife Jan and his kids as a Jedi Master on Sulon... Ahh, happy ending Anyhow, here you all go. This is the offical ages of Kyle Katarn throughout both key moments in his life and the games. I collected this all from timelines, manuals, and most importantly, the New Essential Guide to Characters... Kyle joins the Imperial Academy - 18 Kyle graduates/ Morgan dies - 22 DARK FORCES -Kyle starts the DT project - 27 JEDI KNIGHT - Kyle begins his search for Jerec and his underlings - 32 MOTS - Kyle falls to the Dark Side on Dromuund Kaas - 37 (has gray hair already, by the way...) JO - Kyle starts his search for Desann - 41 NJO (does not appear in it, but is still alive!) - 56 (still younger than Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, and if I am not mistaken, Han Solo!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Can you give us specific sources for this information please? Because at the moment, it doesn't tally at all with the semi-official Behind The Magic CD-ROM timeline...or indeed, the novelisations of the games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted March 16, 2003 Author Share Posted March 16, 2003 OK, sure. First off, DF takes place immediately after ANH, or at least the second level does. JK takes place a year after RotJ, according to the newer timelines. MotS, according to the title scroll and manual, is 5 years after JK (6 after RotJ) JO, is screwed up, as you pointed out, and this is going on the manual's info of being 10 years after RotJ. Now, just how exactly did I get his age from all this? According to the NEW Essential Guide to Characters, Kyle joins the Academy immediately at the age of 18. 4 years pass as he trains and then he graduates. He leaves after he learns the Imps killed his father. He becomes a mercenary for 5 years. Now, take that 18, 4, and 5 to get 27 and add the years between the games from there... I shopuld put quotes around the word official I guess, but I was using official source, and the best out there I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 hey Katarn 07, i think that solo and katarn are the same age exactly at the start of the NJO, just thought i'd tell ya. anyway, nice info on katarn, cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Thanks for that. And empty your PM box...please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted March 16, 2003 Author Share Posted March 16, 2003 Originally posted by StormHammer And empty your PM box...please. It's full again!!!! Jeez! OK, will do. Oh, thanks for the info there, DJ8. I never knew Han's age... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-99 Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Katarn what do you mean NJO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wassup Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 The timeline of the New Jedi Order series from Del Ray. You must have heard of it... Anyways, I believe Kyle still has some more years of butt-kicking ahead of him, contrary to what some people might say. Look at Pellaeon, Grand Admiral of the Imperial Remnant. Hes over 100 years old and still kicking Vong butt. Look at Luke, Han, Leia, Mara. They are all in their 40s-50s, and still in the front lines of the war against the Vong. Why can't Kyle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted March 16, 2003 Author Share Posted March 16, 2003 By the way, this is loosley based off of the books, which do not follow the games 100%. Kyle does not go to the Rebels right after he defects, regardless what the 1st one says. The title scroll says he is a well-known mercenary, and 5 years would do that I would think... I loved the books anyhow. That art work was spectacular. I like the 1st one best, just because it has the fewest conflicts with the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 The reason why many want to "kill" off Kyle is that how many more times can LucasArts throw up the "Gets fed up with the force, retrains in the force" storyline for Kyle. So far that has been the same for all of the three games, with very little variation. I think the example of throwing up the same thing every time is what has made the Tomb Raider series go into hiding for so long to actually come up with a decent game. If we get to play Kyle for a level or two in the next one, and he passes on the baton to a new person, that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben_Walker Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 This offical age thing works for me. Besides, I reckon the older a Jedi gets, the more powerful they get with the Force. Just look at Sidious, Yoda and Dooku/Tyrannus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 I think he should give up his saber for good Then they should make one hell of a game on the lines of Dark Forces. I always liked the mercenary style of Dark Forces, and it has always been one of my favourites from the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Jedi Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 The next game should maybe star Kyle's apprentice! Yeah! Kyle is older and wiser, and acts as a mentor during the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 that's a pretty good idea. but you know lucasarts is gonna keep throwin out the same story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunatic Jedi Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Hey, don't sell Lucasarts short! We've seen what they can do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 kyle is super cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark jedi 8 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 yeah like, star wars: obi-wan, and TPM, and i hear great things about force commander. j/k they have released some good games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reb Starblazer Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 It seems someone took an interest in my "KYLE IS NOT OLD!!" post in the Jedi Knight 3 poll:p Sounds about right to me, but the only discrepancy I find is that in the opening crawl of Jedi Outcast it says it takes place 8 years after Return of the Jedi, not 10. But as you said, it's based mostly on the books, not the games. But either way, it's still roughly the same age. Even if he's 39-41 though, so what right? Obi-Wan was 57 in ANH, Qui-gon was in his 60's in TPM, and Count Dooku was Qui-gon's master, making Dooku, what 80's or 90's? And that's only if Qui-gon was his first padawan:eek: Hell, my father is 55, and I'm sure he could still give me a good ass kickin' if he felt like it:D Oh, and Han Solo is 29 at the time A New Hope happens, so Kyle is just a little younger than Solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 very nice reasearch. btw is MOTS any good if so i need to get it from a friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarn07 Posted March 17, 2003 Author Share Posted March 17, 2003 Originally posted by whitedragon very nice reasearch. btw is MOTS any good if so i need to get it from a friend Story is lacking, but if you like JK, MotS is better in gameplay. Story got just a tad better when they continued the story with JO. They just kind of left it hanging! What were they thinking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 Originally posted by Katarn07 Story is lacking, but if you like JK, MotS is better in gameplay. Story got just a tad better when they continued the story with JO. They just kind of left it hanging! What were they thinking... thanks ill check it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ack Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 hmm... i should add this to the site By the way! It has been updated again Katarn07! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 why would anyone want to get rid of Katarn? its madness Jedi Knight without Kyle is like ice cream without ice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 Thanks for the info Katarn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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